Without Virgin Australia there's only 1 airline nonstop Bris/USA West Coast

Lantifigjammer on 09/08/2020 - 11:06

not sure many have realised, but when things get back to some sort of normal next year, with international flights out of Australia, the only airline that will be flying Brisbane to LA nonstop will be Qantas, possibly daily again. (previously Virgin nearly daily as well).

So what does this mean for fares with no direct competition ? Probably much higher fares than previously ? Obviously some one stop options will be there, just maybe not daily.

There was meant to be a Qantas Brisbane/San Francisco nonstop flight. Think it was meant to start in March. Did any actually take place before Corona hit ?

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  • MS Paint on 09/08/2020 - 11:25
    +9

    This will be worse than covid19 itself. The humanity.

    • kahn on 09/08/2020 - 11:38
      +5

      I hear some people are even going without caviar.

      • FIVEDOLLAR on 09/08/2020 - 11:45
        +1

        Oh no, what am I going to eat my foie gras with now?

  • holdenmg on 09/08/2020 - 11:46
    +1

    Hi (and Welcome). :+)

    I had a quick look and there is BNE-LAX Non-Stop on 28 March
    with American/QAN Codeshare @ AUD$1008 and AUD$1217 One Way..

    29 MAR is AUD$943/$1152 etc.

    Though into April, you are looking at AUD$943-AUD$1494ish Non-Stop One Way, but of course things can change.

    For 1-Stop, is BNE-HNL-LAX an option on Hawaiian?

    • antifigjammer on 10/08/2020 - 09:20

      was thinking busy season end of June for a few weeks in school holidays. where discount sale fares on Qantas website seem to be $1800 to $2000 depending on actual dates chosen. Do Qantas normally have any discount sales in school holidays ?

      Had a look at Hawaiian which only have flights showing at moment up to 8 July & prices of $2500 to $3400, which seems very high & have 5 hours at Honolulu on way over, but only 2.5 hours on way back.

  • dizzle on 09/08/2020 - 12:04

    The whole industry will be in recovery mode for a couple of years, and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of routes get shunted from Brisbane down to Sydney instead of having direct routes.

    You'll find some routes will be more expensive due to lack of demand, while some will be cheaper to encourage fuller planes. I don't think now is the time to be looking at specific prices/routes unless you have to travel this year (even if you can)

  • triviums on 09/08/2020 - 12:23

    Doubt the industry will get back to normal that fast. A lot of airlines have decided to store their aircraft in Alice Springs for long term storage.

  • Stewardo on 09/08/2020 - 16:03

    It was also said that Virgin may consider buying Dreamliners to relaunch long haul flights once demand picked back up, no one can accurately predict when that will be.

    • antifigjammer on 10/08/2020 - 09:27

      Virgin had 777s which I thought they owned or owned most of them. Why would new owners even think about buying or leasing any new aircraft ?

      • Stewardo on 10/08/2020 - 21:52

        They’re selling the 777’s and sacking the Staff.

        • antifigjammer on 12/08/2020 - 14:49

          don't think there's any demand for Being 777-330ER with small freight doors. They'd have to give them away or lease them very cheaply.

          Fiji air has flights showing from Sept 1 to LA & San Fran, but guess that depends on whether pacific bubble opens then, otherwise they seem to cancel one month at a time.

    • inherentchoice on 10/08/2020 - 14:24

      CEO said not until 2023.

  • WreckTangle on 09/08/2020 - 19:01

    Brisbane-Auckland-Los Angeles with Air NZ.

    Sure it stops, but Auckland is on the way.

    • antifigjammer on 10/08/2020 - 09:26

      Auckland is hardly on the way like Hawaii is. Guess if cheaper, people will do it. Had a look & for same period, which must have just been entered into their computers being 10 to 11 months ahead showing at $1300 to $1600. Guess that's why Australians might go the long way via New Zealand to USA.

      • inherentchoice on 10/08/2020 - 14:23
        +2

        I did some measurements and going via Auckland is 9.6% further than going via Honolulu. Via Sydney is 9.8% further though. So from BNE to LAX via AKL is closer than via SYD.

        • antifigjammer on 10/08/2020 - 14:27

          very time consuming though, going via either SYD or AKL. Each adds a minimum of 4 hours extra in each direction & SYD is bad airport to have to change flights at, from domestic to international & back. HNL not much better.

  • inherentchoice on 10/08/2020 - 14:30

    There was meant to be a Qantas Brisbane/San Francisco nonstop flight. Think it was meant to start in March. Did any actually take place before Corona hit?

    Yes looks like it did operate for about a month, started on 10 February, and last one may have been 19 March. QF59/QF60.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7992963/Inside-Qant…

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