Please vote on the price, not how much Intel is gargling b***s now-a-days. I have Ryzen myself but even still, in a lot of scenarios, Intel will make what you are doing happen faster. It just costs more, uses more power and buying one is arguably like rooting for the Empire in Return of the Jedi.
Sad… probably the person who buys this is just doing it for bragging rights so that they can say they own a i9.
honestly better off selling whatever Z390 motherboard you have and go for Z490 or X570 and go Ryzen.
Doesn't seem to make sense, spend a lot to gain a little. Better off holding on until next batch of motherboards and CPU's are around, but even then you need a reason to upgrade other than its newer.
spend a lot to gain a little
Finally, someone with a bit of common sense.
10700k ($650) + Z490 ($250) - Sell Z390 ($150) - Sell i5 9400 ($150) = $600
9900k - Sell i5 9400 ($150) = $600
It is a no brainer to upgrade to the new platform. It is even more of a no brainer to avoid Intel though but here we are
So wait, having a Z390 motherboard + a 9400 working perfectly fine for you, you should sell them, spend the $600 difference to gain… what? It seems like a no brainer to spend $600 so you can tell people you have a newer CPU? My point was about not spending money when you don't need too, that is why I wrote you need a reason to upgrade. 9900k at this price doesn't make sense, that is why I never upvoted the deal.
@FabMan: No not at all, I was comparing a 9900k upgrade to a 10700k upgrade. Never said someone should actually upgrade.
@Casomme: "It is a no brainer to upgrade to the new platform." It looks to me like you did right here. I understand why you'd suggested the path you did, but if you already are on a z390 platform, there is a good chance people don't need to upgrade. I did get a 9900k back when it was $650 and sold my 8700k for a little over $400, I don't think that was particularly good value though but better than what is offered here, it was more of an impulse buy, which is kinda why I want to recommend people against spending unnecessarily.
@FabMan: My comment was in context of someone wanting to upgrade. I would never actually recommend anyone get a 10700k but I was highlighting the poor value of the 9900k.
My actual thoughts are that 99% of people should get a 3300x or 3600. The 1% would be someone with a 2080 super or higher then they should look at a 10600k.
Better upgrade path (10900k) and potentially support for the next line of CPU's from Intel after 10th gen
wifi 6 on Z490 motherboards
Z490 with a 10700k will allow for a 10900k upgrade down the line if your 10700k isn't cutting it the z390 with a 9900k is the best it's gonna get.
I just don't see the need to upgrade unless you have a specific reason, my i5-750OC lasted me until I got a 8700k. If you have a 9900k/9400, are you really in need of a new system anytime soon? You might be, but then you have a good reason. I didn't upvote this deal as I don't think its a good price, but recommending upgrade just because you can seems like a waste of good money to me.
I just don't see the need to upgrade unless you have a specific reason
No ones suggesting anyone to upgrade without a reason or need. Why are you talking like someone did? really confusing comment.
@Axelstrife: Well Casomme did "It is a no brainer to upgrade to the new platform.".
Did you read the posts? You wrote it is better off to change platforms than to buy this CPU, which it is. I wrote you are probably better off waiting as your current platform is still probably good enough, and you then wrote why it is better to upgrade to a newer platform. Not confusing, you've just gone into defensive mode. This shouldn't be such a big deal.
Well Casomme did "It is a no brainer to upgrade to the new platform.".
Read his comment again, he isn't suggesting someone upgrade without a need to, he shows it's no more expensive to upgrade to a z490+10700k vs selling z390 board and CPU and get this 9900k.
I wrote you are probably better off waiting as your current platform is still probably good enough
You never said "you are probably better off waiting as your current platform is still probably good enough"
@Axelstrife: Are you doing a "Well actually…"?
My first post wasn't trying to correct you, since you can amazingly interpret what Casomme meant, surely can interpret when I literally wrote "Better off holding on until next batch of motherboards and CPU's are around, but even then you need a reason to upgrade other than its newer.". Stop being so defensive.
@Casomme: My point was don't upgrade at all from a z390 system unless you need too, yet I was downvoted and told by yourself and Axelstrife what a much better deal it is to not go for the 9900k. You can tell I agree with that since I didn't upvote the deal, so why tell me its not a good deal? No misunderstood conversation, just people telling me things, and Axelstrife making weird claims that I never said certain things yet you can see I mentioned it three times above, which is irritating.
@FabMan: Your point was off topic and you still don't seem to understand that. No one disagrees with you that if you don't need to upgrade then don't yet you keep insinuating that we disagree with you for some reason
@Casomme: "Your point was off topic", if it is, then so is every post after so why bring it up? I wrote "you are spending a lot to gain a little. Better off holding on until next batch of motherboards and CPU's" I'm talking specifically about CPU and motherboard upgrades mentioned in Alexstrife post. I probably did misunderstand "It is a no brainer to upgrade to the new platform.", you meant 'if you are going to upgrade, it's better to upgrade to a new platform instead of purchasing this CPU', but you didn't even need to make your post to me since its advocating not purchasing this CPU, which is what I agree with, again, the lack of upvote shows that. Why explain to me why to not purchase it, when I advocated not purchasing it?
I'm not sure what the point of this discussion is, it was a small comment about current unnecessary upgrades, yet you wanted to give me maths and go on explaining why I am constantly failing to understand you. My point was simple, you misunderstood me and didn't seem to notice the lack of an upvote by me. We are wasting each others time, and you didn't need to add your comment about "You clearly didn't understand the conversation", yet you wanted to drag this out for whatever reason.
@FabMan: Well it seems we have the same opinion so there is no point in the back and forth.
Have a good one
Er, you can get a i7-10700K for $699. Why on earth would you spend $60 more for a CPU that's slower?
Cause my motherboard supports series 8 and series 9 cpus but not series 10?
At these prices it would be cheaper to sell your motherboard & CPU and buy a new platform
It really wont
@Freestyle: 10700k ($650) + Z490 ($250) - Sell Z390 ($150) - Sell i5 9400 ($150) = $600
9900k - Sell i5 9400 ($150) = $600
It is a no brainer to upgrade to the new platform
I'm in the same boat with a 9400 and a new RTX 2070. The 9400 caps my frames, but theres no point swapping to a new mobo/cpu combo when the CPU upgrade that will sort my system for the next few years is $750 and a new mobo/cpu is slightly more (either AM4 or 10 series Intel).
in a lot of scenarios, Intel will make what you are doing happen faster
Really?
If I'm running late for work I place a 9900k on the dash of my car and it goes a lot faster.
Heck, I place it on top of my desk and it makes my Ryzen go faster!
lol tempted to +1 for just the description
You can't post an Intel deal now-a-days without massaging your audience a little.
One could purchase an i9-9900kf for ~$650 on ebay a year ago if lucky. I want one to replace my i7-8700 non-K, but I don't want to pay more than $500 for it in 2020.
I was thinking the same. I have an 8700k on a Z390 motherboard which means I could potentially upgrade to this later down the line. I wouldnt pay more than $550 at the moment. Ryzen is just more competitive in terms of value to performance.
I also have a 8700K unless you use > 6 cores, is it really worth it?
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9900K-vs…
highly doubt i use that many. maybe for running multiple VMs sure… maybe some encoding/decoding, but even then…
Yeah probably not, just a future proofing thing I guess and to improve editing/rendering times but I don't do too much video production stuff.
I'm on an 8700K and no need to upgrade to get 2-5 fps more in games. Graphics is more tempting but similarly price prohibitive. I'm on a 1080 and don't want to spend more than $1000 to go to a 2080 super with 3000 series wasn't just around the corner. Honestly I can't complain too much about what I have. I'm not a competitive gamer and I'm staying with 1080p.
exactly!
Unfortunately that's the reason why they still hold their price. Users on z390/370 boards have these as the last upgrade path. Realistically you can offload the 8700k for 450-400 to take the sting out of upgrading though.
Where can you even sell a second-hand CPU? I would think an 8700k CPU worth nothing in itself.
As a whole computer, you might be able to sell it (by demonstrating that it actually works)
@ocoolio: ebay, looking at the sold listing seems about right:
https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p233452…
@ocoolio: There is definitely a demand for used intel chips. EBay, Gumtree and ocau are your best bets if you ever want to offload used parts.
gargling b***s; can somebody fill in the asterisks for me.
all
Thanks; so obvious now, I struggled with it for ~1/2 min before asking.
Holy crap they are still going for this price?
Edit: I see 10700ks going for under $650