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Minleaf ZX7-250 Mini Welding Machine US$43.99 (~ A$62.71) Delivered @ Banggood

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Minleaf ZX7-250 Mini Welding Machine US$43.99 (~ A$62.71) Delivered @ BanggoodAffiliate
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I live in a shoebox apartment so space is a premium but still want to get into welding so my research led me to this deal, which is part of BG's 72hr Summer Prime Sale..

I got mine for slightly cheaper by reserving one before the sale started but this price is still good!

For comparison, the cheapest offering on ebay is $114.85.

Pair it with this clamp set, which is also on sale.

YouTube reviews.

Price includes GST.

Let the melting begin!

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  • nagel on 21/07/2020 - 18:40
    +4

    Welding in a shoebox apartment O_O

    • haru on 21/07/2020 - 18:41

      Have you heard of balconies?

      • ozy on 21/07/2020 - 19:23
        +1

        I have.

      • 1tightwad on 22/07/2020 - 06:55
        +8

        Let's just hope OPs apartment building doesn't have non-compliant aluminium composite panels up the outside.

        • haru on 07/08/2020 - 14:50

          I'll be using welding curtains.

      • twww on 22/07/2020 - 10:49
        +1

        Your one of those that would be welding in thongs, no doubt?

  • lnq on 21/07/2020 - 18:45
    +1

    any deal on battery welding machine?

  • t25 on 21/07/2020 - 18:45

    I know nothing about welding, but what else do I need once I buy this? Obviously some PPE would be nice; I don't want to lose my vision from welding flash.

    • edrift on 21/07/2020 - 18:49

      Auto darkening helmet.
      $20 on clearance from Bunnings. Was in there yesterday and they had 3 on sale.

      Otherwise about $30ish off eBay.

      You'll need leather welding gloves too.
      Normal leather gloves will not do. Stuff gets red hot.

      • haru on 21/07/2020 - 19:02

        Can you link the Bunnings one?

        • edrift on 21/07/2020 - 19:13

          They don't have it on their website anymore. It was an ozito one but identical to the generic one i bought off eBay.

          Definitely get an auto darkening one. With a manual one it'd be a pain to use.

          Like this:
          https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/293578486067

          Not expensive so just get one off eBay if you can't find it at Bunnings.

          I'd recommend just buying the welder off a local eBay seller. I only paid about $100ish delivered and that included an inverter arc welder with leads. Decent specs.

          Add on a pair of gloves for $10-20, helmet for $30, and pack of electrodes for $20.

          For $150-160 you'll have everything you need to start welding next week.

          • oznik on 21/07/2020 - 20:55

            @edrift: Do you know offhand what type of batteries those cheapo ebay ones take? Are they something exotic or easy to find? Thanks.

            • edrift on 21/07/2020 - 21:05

              @oznik: Batteries? For the helmet you mean? I think they're just basic 3v button cells. Never checked tbh.

              The eBay helmets are almost identical to brand name entry level helmets. They after just missing the logos/stickers

              • oznik on 21/07/2020 - 21:13

                @edrift: cheers, appreciate the info.

      • theHMASfriendship on 21/07/2020 - 21:42
        +2

        Auto darkening helmet.

        No longer appropriate in this day and age.

    • Waynes world on 21/07/2020 - 19:05

      And long sleeves and pants - clothes you do not mind getting holes in. Preferably cotton tradie type clothing.

      Depending on how much you're doing, a leather apron can be a good idea.

      You'll need cables to. According to feedback "No cables, no ground clamp and no electrode holder are included."

      Suitable elding rods, chipping tool.

      I suspect it's going to be suitable for very small materials. Check on this.

      • Grunef on 21/07/2020 - 19:52
        +4

        My ginger neighbour ended up with a very deep sunburn from welding in a singlet.

        Long sleeves, non flammable clothing is a must.

      • Roger Ramjet on 21/07/2020 - 21:23
        +1

        Don’t forget a bucket or water or fire extinguisher!!! Especially in such a confined space.

    • mrvaluepack on 21/07/2020 - 19:11
      +2

      a good vacuum cleaner to clean the debris and wire brush

    • ECE on 22/07/2020 - 14:29

      You need a welding rod/stick.
      Be sure that it is compatible to the material that you will weld to.

  • spock on 21/07/2020 - 19:11
    +6

    Remember it's Banggood, Good luck you will Need it.

  • edrift on 21/07/2020 - 19:19
    +2

    Honestly I'd recommend getting this instead:

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/283763956205

    Fast local delivery
    GST included
    1 year warranty
    Leads included

    $104 delivered.

    Vs about $90 from overseas without warranty.

    • Hazza on 21/07/2020 - 20:10
      -2

      $260 delivered? That's some bump.

      • edrift on 21/07/2020 - 20:36
        +1

        Huh? The eBay one is $104 delivered. Where did you get the $260 from?

        • Hazza on 22/07/2020 - 11:51

          Strange. It was showing $260. I figured the seller bumped it when the watch traffic went up. But its back to $104.

    • Gratt on 21/07/2020 - 21:12

      Much better value. Do you have to buy cables with the OPs machine?

      • edrift on 21/07/2020 - 23:07

        The OP's machine doesn't come with cables

  • Mel-waukee on 21/07/2020 - 19:29

    Can this be used as a spot welder?

  • oznik on 21/07/2020 - 20:00

    Ordered one.

    About to order these as the welder doesn't have inrush current limiting for the main capacitor which will wear it out prematurely:

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32760055591.html

    This guy has a video on a similar model explaining it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awjlwh-jz2Q

  • tanabe88gg on 21/07/2020 - 20:03
    +5

    Your apartment neighbours might not mind the welding fumes but they will absolutely love you when you start grinding!

  • Herb Utsmellz on 21/07/2020 - 20:07

    250a 😂😂😂 very optimistic

    • Steptoe on 21/07/2020 - 20:30

      CHamps
      What's the current exchange rate (pun intended)?

  • Unrvl on 21/07/2020 - 20:12

    im interested in learning how to weld, never done it.

    would something like this trip the breaker for a regular household? can you plug these into a power board? thanks.

    • Herb Utsmellz on 21/07/2020 - 20:16

      Shouldnt. You would be running max 125amps according to reviews of the machine.

    • edrift on 21/07/2020 - 20:35

      It'll be fine. Unless you're doing some really heavy structural welds, you won't need to crank it up very high.
      DC inverter machines (i.e this one) are pretty efficient at delivering power

    • oznik on 21/07/2020 - 21:15

      I might trip the breaker like this guy experienced:

      https://youtu.be/uKWD97TVbHg?t=288

      Once you reset the breaker it should be OK as the capacitors will then be charged.

  • PlasticSpaceman on 21/07/2020 - 20:16
    +5

    Awww…. it's so cute.

    I remember my wife, before we married, asking what the burn marks in the carpet at my house were from. From sparks when I was welding bits for my car, I said. She looked at me strangely. I then tried to justify it by saying how cold it was outside at the time….. She still married me, but I don't have the welder any more…..

  • shaidas on 21/07/2020 - 20:39

    So for someone starting out and wanting to make parts for 4wds , would this be a good starting point? Can a noob without any training even make a..let's say a bullbar or am I dreaming ?

    • Mechz on 21/07/2020 - 20:57

      You probably want to do a tafe course first unless you have a friend to teach you.

    • edrift on 21/07/2020 - 21:03

      You can. Just practice a lot and watch YouTube tutorials.

  • UFO on 21/07/2020 - 21:06
    +3

    250A my ass.

    A lot of these toaster welders have their readouts calibrated for double what the value actually is… or in marketing speak "half amp" read outs.

    No way on earth this welder pumps out 250A.

    Also, at what duty cycle? The spec sheet quotes a duty cycle of 60%….. but at WHAT OUTPUT!? That's the whole point of the duty cycle spec, to determine how long a welder can pump out a certain output. Cheap welders quote 250A output at 10%, or 20%, or 50%, or whatever. This thing quotes 60% but conveniently doesn't mention at what output. I'm guessing it won't be anywhere near 250A :).

    Don't stuff around with crap welders like this. Buy a decent size welder that already comes with the additional attachments and away you go.
    Do a little research on required output for the particular jobs you want to weld on.
    For instance, if you want to build a trailer as your first project (good luck!), the thickness of the metal is what you need to know. The thicker the metal, the more output power you need. Conversely if you want to build your own shed or something and the metal is very thin, then lower welder output is required. The trick is to buy a welder that does the output you require without overheating and shutting off. Too small a welder and you won't get a weld hot enough to be strong… or the welder itself will overheat trying to get to the level you want and cut out entirely. You'll have to travel really slow trying to heat the weld pool up and it'll just be a crappy cold weld that won't be strong.

    In a nutshell, buy a better welder than this one folks. For a similar outlay, you won't get a toaster size welder but it'll come with all the bits you need to get started… and be advertised with the appropriate specs to make even a half decent choice. A quick Ebay search found some cheap chinese imports for under $150 that'll do much better than this.

    • haru on 21/07/2020 - 22:21
      +1

      Can you link some specific ebay examples? None I saw had the abundance of reviews this has.

      As a use case I want to weld frames (1-2” thick) to build small furniture on.

    • Villainous on 22/07/2020 - 09:16

      @UFO Link?

  • petestrash on 21/07/2020 - 21:53
    +1

    8.3KVA input power.

    Good luck getting that from a 10 Amp GPO, even a 15 Amp GPO couldn't run it at full power.

    • AmperSand on 22/07/2020 - 09:53
      +2

      Pffft, who doesn't have a 35amp GPO in their house fitted for the sole purpose of powering their miniature chinese welder?

  • mfazackerley on 21/07/2020 - 22:14

    A grinder is the only way you will get nice welds with this thing

    • Rorzaborg on 22/07/2020 - 08:22
      +2

      Grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't…

  • JPNx on 22/07/2020 - 09:08

    May aswell save your money and get a silicone gun to drop dimes.

    There is no way this welder is going to be up to the task, Also balcony welding? hrmmm.. If you are street facing people are going to report you pretty quickly as they begin to see sparks flying around.

  • dirtybigbjelke on 22/07/2020 - 10:02
    +1

    This is the funniest video about these things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--1lSmtuyUg

    • edrift on 22/07/2020 - 11:39

      Haha great watch.

      But at least he got decent 6013 welds watch is all anyone could hope for on a shoestring budget.

  • zombie hunter on 22/07/2020 - 10:13

    No band 28 nfc no deal

  • AMLagonda on 22/07/2020 - 11:12
    +1

    A cheap way to get some cable for the welder is to buy jumper cables off ebay.

    these little pieces of crap will do the job intended, it is a hobby toy but Ive seen them used by a home handy man as something like this is very easy to carry around.

    • Switchblade88 on 22/07/2020 - 17:28

      *GOOD jumper cables.

      Most cheap ones are massive thick insulation over tiny 4mm2 cables; you might as well use an extension lead instead.

      Ideally you want something 8AWG or thicker (i.e. lower numbers). Go to Supercheap and stickybeak at their rolls to get a feel for the actual thicknesses you should expect.

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