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Features:
Premium Cotton Cover
500GSM Anti-microbial treated wool fill inhibits growth of bacteria
Ideal for allergy sensitive sleepers
Suitable for colder months.
Machine Washable
Made in Australia
Size Information: Queen 210 x 210cm, Double180 x 210cm, Single 140 x 210cm
Hi, Not machine washable at Harris Scarfe, also ythey seem to be sold out.
Thank You
Correct, they not machine washable (hand wash only) but there is plenty in stock in stores, just not available online.
sais out of stock at harris scarfe, even if its available in store, in these times its basically alot harder to get without shipping.
If your in Victoria maybe, rest of Australia isn’t doing too bad! ;)
What is the difference between seconds and not seconds? I bought a Queen size from a previous bargain from this seller and it seems to work well for me. No noticeable defects (not that i'm an expert).
Normally not much at all, maybe some stiches out of line, a mark or a small rip. For a quilt it’s not a problem as you would have a quilt cover over it anyway.
not entirely true.
Factory Second just simply means its a returned product, and most likely returned by a customer.
if the "stiches out of line, a mark or a small rip" was found be4 left the factory, it will send back to the product line to fix it, and sell it as brand new.
"Factory Second" are those products left the factory and then get returned by either retailer or customer for whatever reasons.
since the retailer don't care its defected or not as long as they could sell it, then is almost certain that they ar returned by the customers.
For quilts like this i would guess they ar from kmart or bigw's change of mind returns, "stiches out of line" just one of the many many excuses.
in order to restock it tontine need to sanitize it first, or they will get sue if their customers catch any skin disease.
too much trouble for doing that so they came up with a better idea, just pass them to a 3rd company and sell them as "Factory Second".
if anything bad happened that 3rd company could take the blame.
@samelight: Hi,
Just to clarify these quilts are not customer returns & never left the factory, We guarantee they never been used, buy with confidence!
Thank You
@Ron1977: if never left the factory, then is not called "Factory Second", simple as that.
small faults such as "stiches out of line, a mark or a small rip" could be easily fixed in the factory,
why sell them as "Factory Second" ? simple logic.
u could make an
argument of "they never been used",
but "never left the factory" thats an obvious lie.
@samelight: Not sure why you’re getting so worked up by how OP has defined ‘factory second’. A ‘factory second’ doesn’t have to be something returned. In fact I guarantee you something marked a ‘factory second’ is never something returned from a customer. Your interpretation is wrong, and your little story of how the the factory seconds come about is very bizzare. Why would you say this?
OP has clearly indicated that this product is brand new and unused so where is the lie? What is there to complain about?
Also why complain about minor defects being marked a factory second and made cheaper for the consumer i.e. you? It’s win for you isn’t it?
Your comments perplex me.
@Phil22: the word ‘factory second’ itself meaning the item left the factory once, returned, and then left again for the the ‘second‘ times that ‘factory second’ !
u could google this easily no point of arguring on this matter.
OP has clearly indicated that this product is brand new and unused so where is the lie?
i clearly stated "never left the factory" thats an obvious lie." why u still asking where?
once again, the word ‘factory second’ came from
left the factory once, returned, and then left again for the the ‘second‘ times that ‘factory second’ !
you could google this urslef or check out those links below, and plz tell me hows that not a lie about the "never left the factory" part.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_second
https://facsokart.com/blog/what-are-factory-seconds-should-y…
https://www.smartappliancesoutlet.com.au/faqs-2/what-are-fac…
https://bizfluent.com/facts-7598110-factory-second-mean.html
just a very simple logic, the "minor defects" can be easily fixed since it "never left the factory", then why selling it as a 'factory second' ??you got a beautiful brain, use it!
why complain about minor defects being marked a factory second and made cheaper for the consumer
no im not complaining about that at all !!!!
im just explaining the meaning of ‘factory second’ to the others, why is this bothering you ? the consumers i.e. you should know about this be4 making the purchase, so unless u ar the "associated" or i don't c any reason for u to being "perplexed".
also im not stopping anyone from getting a bargain,
but when someone "asked", then i simply answers! whats wrong with that ?
@samelight: The term factory second is not dictated by the number of times it has left the factory. That’s a very odd observation to make. It is marked ‘seconds‘ because of a minor defect. Again your interpretation of the words ‘factory second’ is wrong.
You seem to be the only one who believes a factory second is something that has left the factory and returned to the factory. OP has clearly said the goods have NEVER left the factory, yet you still suggest OP has lied.
In any case, OP is entitled to describe their items any way they want to. They’ve called it a factory second which is correct in everyone’s eyes except your own.
It is marked ‘seconds‘ because of a minor defect.
thats the real 'odd observation'!
simple question, who found out those "minor defect" ? if the factory found a "minor defect" they will fix it right away then they can sell it as brand new, the 'factory second' won't get a chance to exist !!!
we talking about 'stiches out of line, a mark or a small rip' here, not 'dents on a fridge'! very easy fix !!
only the case of found out by the the consumer and then return it for for a re-work, then u got a ‘factory second’.
this is a very very very simple logic, how could u not understand it ? or u just don't wanted to?
Again your interpretation of the words ‘factory second’ is wrong.
again you could google it urself.
You seem to be the only one who believes a factory second is something that has left the factory and returned to the factory. OP has clearly said the goods have NEVER left the factory, yet you still suggest OP has lied.
again google proved u wrong.
In any case, OP is entitled to describe their items any way they want to.
only if what he told is the truth.
They’ve called it a factory second which is correct in everyone’s eyes except your own.
again and again, google disagreed.
@samelight: ‘Factory seconds, also known as factory rejects or simply seconds, are retail items which, through minor fault of manufacture, are sold to the public for a reduced rate, rather than being discarded. Such goods are often resold at this lower rate after failing the factory's quality inspection.’
There we go, from your very own source. OP has stated it has NEVER left the factory because they discovered a minor defect during production. Looks like OPs quilts do indeed fit within your own sourced definition of factory second.
The source also suggests that LESS FREQUENTLY, it is returned by the consumer. Yet you suggest that the quilts were ‘almost certain that they ar returned by the customers’.
If you cared to look at the item description you would have found out that the products are new. Instead you make odd and baseless insinuations that the quilts were likely returned from Kmart or Big-W and ‘disinfected’ to stop ‘skin disease’ and from being ‘sued’. That’s why I’m perplexed by your comments.
Per your comment ‘if the factory found a "minor defect" they will fix it right away then they can sell it as brand new, the 'factory second' won't get a chance to exist‘. If you’ve never worked for Tontine, your comment is baseless and moot.Try undoing hundreds of stitches. Try not leave holes in the poorly stitched areas when restitched.
There we go, from your very own source. OP has stated it has NEVER left the factory because they discovered a minor defect during production. Looks like OPs quilts do indeed fit within your own sourced definition of factory second.
u ar a troller !
u only copy and paste half of the definition and left out the important parts !
i keep asking u who found out the "minor fault", becoz this tells it ever left the factory or not !
when u copy and paste the definition u left out that part on purpose,
now i got it u ar just simply trolling here !
the parts u left out saids
being returned to the manufacturer's factory by the original retailer, or (less frequently) being returned to the retailer or wholesaler by the customer.
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_second
'being returned to the manufacturer's factory by the original retailer'
how the hell can u interpret this as 'never left the factory' ??
how ???
really dude ???
why u trolling like this ???
whos the 'original retailer' ? Kmart and Big-W !!
do they inspect every single item when they got it from the manufacturer ? No!
then who found out the "minor fault"? customers of coz !
so its not only 'left the factory' make it to the shelf, but also bought and being returned to the manufacturer's factory by original retailer after the customer inspected or even used.
stop trolling u associated.
@samelight: No offence, but you need to read things more clearly.
Here is it is in full, and please take note of comma and the OR. Again, please take note of the comma and the OR.
Factory seconds, also known as factory rejects or simply seconds, are retail items which, through minor fault of manufacture, are sold to the public for a reduced rate, rather than being discarded.
Such goods are often resold at this lower rate after failing the factory's quality inspection, (NOTICE THE COMMA?) being returned to the manufacturer's factory by the original retailer, or (NOTICE THE OR?!) (less frequently) being returned to the retailer or wholesaler by the customer.
Let me explain this to you simply. A factory second is something that has failed a factory quality inspection OR returned by the retailer OR less frequently, returned by a customer. Is this not clear as day? OPs quilts have failed a quality inspection, NOT returned by the retailer and NOT returned by the consumer. It fits within the first part of the definition. Therefore, a factory second.
P.s not associated. The number of dislikes you are receiving tells us all we need to know.
A factory second is something that has failed a factory quality inspection OR returned by the retailer OR less frequently, returned by a customer.
lol firstly u cut out half of the definitions and now u start adding ur own word!
if it failed the QC it will get send back to the product line and fix it, i told u this many many times, u just keep acting blind.
when u return something, manufacturer will inspect it and decides to discard it or sell as "Factory seconds", so no OR in that sentence, this inspection is not the same as the QC when it came off the assembly line.
once again, if it failed the factory quality inspection when it came off the assembly line, it will get send back to fix it, 'factory second' will not exists.
we ar talking about quilts with stiches out of line here, not dents on fridge.
Would suit fat people
Sounds pretty standard to me. Also suitable for skinny people who just want extra tortilla for their burrito?
Because they're always getting seconds
ah i get it now.
Wow 500gsm? I found that 350gsm wool was too hot for me. In winter. Btw I'm a hot sleeper
Wow
Would like to share my experience.
Purchased a Factory second Queen size wool quilts from luxe bedding ebay store. The handling and delivery was quick enough.
Upon opening the package something just doesn’t feel right. For starters there is no clear labelling of the manufacturer as well as the material. There are only about three words on the single attached label. “Second quilts queen”. Along with a simple caring instructions.
Secondly the measurement I took was appx. 215x230 It just doesn’t fit my standard queen quilt cover.
Thirdly then I compared the quilt filling with couple of my existing wool quilt, it feels completely different.
From here I’m pretty confident that I got sent the wrong item but seller seems to be not very responsive when I asked the possibility of me getting the wrong product.
To their credit I did end up got my refund so no harm done but definitely not worth my trouble. Again this is just personal experience could be a isolated case.
with ebay's policy they have to give u refund.
as i said above the manufacturing defect rate ar very low, plug minor defects ar repairable,
the chance of getting a 'Factory second' that 'never left the factory' is lower then winning lotteries.
if what u said is not an isolated case, then its even worse then the customer return.
tontine won't cut out the tags and certainly wont bother to sew in a "Second quilts queen" tag.
so what u got is not tontine at all.
btw the size u got there should be the UK size, definitely not tontine…
It's not unusual for seconds to be physically altered so resellers don't compete with full price objects, or so that buyers don't claim defects. I bought seconds kitchen appliances (oven etc) and they were basically graffitied on the inside :)
'Factory Second' is just a fancy word for returned produce,
i really don't get why ppl still belive whatever BS resellers told him such as 'never left the factory'.
Think about this, how else they get rid of the returned produces still in minor but 'like new' condition ?
Defects that never left the factory still can be fix and legally sell it as brand new and not the returns, besides 'factory second' how else they get rid of them ?
I have no problem with the seconds, u get what u paid for.
But when reseller lies, and neg u to stop others from knowing the truth, thats another story.
for the "physically altered", change tags ar just way too much trouble and impossable expand the size, what he got there just simply fake.
@samelight: https://www.quora.com/What-is-a-refurbished-or-a-factory-sec…
Read one of the comments here.
It’s getting quite annoying how you believe that factory seconds are returned products. My advice to you is that you need to be more open minded.
It’s even more annoying how you keep suggesting that OPs quilts are not new, notwithstanding the fact that OP has explicitly said they are brand new and never left the factory? Why do you keep saying that OP has lied? What proof do you have that OPs quilts are not brand new?
You then suggest that OP is selling ‘fake’ products. Why make such swooping and baseless claims for someone who has never purchased anything from this company. In fact, you’re treading a fine line with the law when you continue to defame this company without any evidence as to your allegations.
Recently, some person left a fake review on Google reviews for a lawyer. Seeems like you are doing something similar here when you continue to perpetrate these falsities about OP and their product. I’d suggest to you that you find evidence to support your allegations.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/11942…
@samelight: Hi,
We strongly suggest not to make any assumptions! Again to clarity quilts supplied will be Tontine Genuine Quilts, Unused, never left the factory, no customer returns, hope it helps!
Thank You
@Ron1977: im not assuming anything since some one already pointed out ur quilts don't have the correct labeling.
Harris Scarfe has them cheaper on sale at the moment and not seconds.
https://www.harrisscarfe.com.au/Categories/Bed%09Bath-%26-Ho…