Apples Double Standards and Warranty Escape Tactics

Hope someone has some recommendations for me on what to do after having major issues with Apple and their warranty terms.

I own an MBP 2016, Touchbar, 4TB ports. The computer was heavily used and this is pretty visible. At some point, i tried to close the lid with an airpod between screen and keyboard which caused a crack on the screen frame. No screen discolouration, no dead pixels, not even in the screen area, it is right next to the "Macbook Pro" writing underneath the display itself.

This never bothered me too much and i relied on the computer so i didn't want to take it in for repair. With time the keyboard started playing up, then the touchbar stopped working and last but not least two TB3 ports. I had no choice but to take it in to repair. I booked an appointment with Apple which they cancelled due to the Covid19 situation. There were no open stores in Vic and i had to get an appointment with centrecom.

I showed up to the appointment and was greeted by a not so friendly female worker. "You have to clean it if you want me to touch it" were her words. She handed over a dirty cloth and some unknown liquid in a bottle without any label. After i cleaned the computer she took it into the back room to the mechanic. He refused to repair it because of the crack on the screen frame. I was confused. Fair enough that he doesn't want to repair the screen, even if it is in a recall program due to a manufacturing fault, he also refused to repair anything else. He claimed it is policy that if he can't return the computer in 100% condition he is not allowed to touch it at all. He returned the computer and i left.

A bit confused i contacted Apple and after a while i spoke to a so called senior advisor which was supposed to know what she is talking about. I explained to her what happened and that i couldn't understand why the touchbar, keyboard and TB3 ports don't get repaired. They have nothing to do with the screen. She said that she couldn't understand that either and that this should have been repaired. She would give centrecom a call and see what is going on.

Next day she called me and was telling a fully different story. When i asked her how come that the Apple policy and guidelines changed overnight she said she didn't know them. That she is not a technician and tried to talk herself out of the statements she made. At this point, I had enough and said "i have recorded our conversation yesterday, you told me something fully different" What am i supposed to believe if Apple tells me every day a different story". When she heard that i had the conversation recorded she freaked out, mumbled something and hung up the phone on me. Without even saying good bye or anything.

Is this the customer support one can expect for such high priced items? Is a company allowed to lie over and over again and keep changing their "policy" as they feel? Does anyone know what i should do next and how to escalate this matter? The display itself is under a replacement program anyways, the crack is by all means irrelevant but APple is showing again that it will $hit over its customers whenever it feels like it.

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Comments

    • Apple chat confirmed warranty until

      2021-04-30.

      • Then get a remedy from Apple under ACL. It’s either a repair, replacement or refund.

        • +3

          or rejected.

      • +8

        Warranty is not unconditional, another poster has outlined how you have voided the warranty but you have dismissed their input because it does not align with the outcome you want.

  • +7

    Nobody asked if the airpod made it or is on life support or in rehab.

    Oh, The Humanity!

    • +1

      If broken, he should take it to Apple and insist on a warranty replacement too!

      • It's common sense that a product warranty=product insurance

        /s

  • +2

    I think what the OP is trying to say is he had a cracked laptop which he accepted his fault but the subsequent fault on keyboard, touchbar, TB ports, etc should still be subject to normal warranty and his laptop still has warranty.

    The main question is this: Is it true or not true if you have damaged one part (ie: monitor) no matter how minor it is, all other warranty attached to the other components (ie: Keyboard, Touchbar, TB ports) become instantly void?

    I think most of the posters here say it is true but I am not so sure about that.

    There is no harm in claiming ACL and I think OP should go towards that avenue since the manufacturer has already ruled out repairing it under warranty.

    • -7

      They are happy to repair it under warranty if i pay over $800 for the screen. Then even the rest of the warranty is valid until 04.2021

      IMHO just a scam

      • +1

        Okay. So you could have organized to have the screen repaired first (maybe doesn't have to be thru Apple if it's that expensive) because it is as you conceded, your fault. If it is going to be replaced anyway under Replacement Program, then probably just get it fixed at minimal cost.

        Then you can submit to Apple for the rest of the components that are not working.

      • +2

        @dosada "Then even the rest of the warranty is valid until 04.2021"

        Nuh,
        As per @Millhouse (above)

        Additional Information
        This worldwide Apple program does not extend the standard warranty coverage of your MacBook Pro.
        https://support.apple.com/en-au/13-inch-macbook-pro-display-…

        Where it says:
        "The program covers eligible MacBook Pro models for 4 years after the first retail sale of the unit." refers to the time period that eligible owners may avail themselves of the program remedy.

      • +1

        Going by what HoldenMg said, so what that means is you still need to pay to fix the Screen. The Screen Replacement program doesn't apply to you.

        The question is how bad is the damaged screen. If it is that bad then it's understandable that they wouldn't want to touch it then.

  • +2

    I had 2 y o MacBook, newly out of warranty. I opened up at OS airport for entertainment- couple of years ago - black screen.
    Changed flights and during another, wait checked at Apple reseller in second airport and told, “looks bad”.

    Home to Southland Apple store and take it in.
    Just outta warranty and it had a big scratch on case indicating I had previously dropped it from some height. Had worked ok for months since this drop/visible damage/abuse.

    Three hours later, picked it up. All ok, no data lost. Saw invoice for $1000 - gulp - Apple guy said it should not have failed so close to warranty and I was free to leave with repaired computer I’m still using.
    No cost to me - didn’t even try and say you’ve abused it (drop 3 months earlier) causing catastrophic screen failure.
    I don’t believe that was the reason, but the case damage would have made it hard to argue against.

  • +11

    Did anyone else stop reading after?:

    • "At some point, i tried to close the lid with an airpod between screen and keyboard which caused a crack on the screen frame."
    • "I showed up to the appointment and was greeted by a not so friendly female worker. "You have to clean it if you want me to touch it" were her words. She handed over a dirty cloth and some unknown liquid in a bottle without any label."

    LOL Clean the f'n laptop mate!!!!!! Thats disgusting, at least make an effort to clean it before going in.

      • +13

        Well, with the spike in Victoria, I don't think that's an unreasonable request

        • +1

          Yet it was relevant enough to include in the OP. I don't get it.

  • It’s not apple’s fault but that how it’s done. Any physical damage they won’t accept it. Primarily due to being a potential fire or electrical hazard and even dodgy customers may say apple broke it.

    If you’re going down a repair path it’s pretty much whole top panel replacement which will cost you alot as well through a thirdparty. Keyboard repair is separate but to do that you need to fix the panel first.

    • +1

      With Apple yes, I've worked for HP, Lenovo and Dell. Neither of them decline warranty of a keyboard if the screen is cracked. It's just scam from Apple as usual. It's a bit of a stretch for OP to get the screen replaced under the repair program if he has cracked it. He could of got lucky and the "genius" could of covered it under the repair program it just depends on who you get that day.

      • its not scam from apple. Went through similar experience with htc. Phone had problem after 2 weeks from purchase, in between lodging for rma and taking into rma dropped and cracked side of front glass. They said cant do warranty until I repair the front panel.

  • +1

    Hey OP, I'd suggest that you calm down and think logically for a sec. Is it going to help you by arguing with fellow ozbargainers on a forum? Is it going to help you get your MBP repaired?
    As others have suggested, take it to an Apple store nearby and get them to have a look and see what they can do.

  • +2

    Clean your laptop.

  • +7

    OP is asking way too much
    Taking a damaged apple computer back to apple for warranty repair? Seriously?

    Come on OP.
    Ask yourself.

    If you had sold this computer to somebody in new condition and they brought it back in the broken filthy condition you did, you would be borking at any suggestion to be liable for repair as well.

    And for the record, as a computer technician, I reject outright your suggestion that the damage you caused to the computer has not affected any other parts of the laptop.

    I am 100% with Apple on this one.

    • +1

      Yep the moment they if the main board and those fractures happen, everything could stop working. OP'd then lose his sh!t even more saying they broke it and demand it be fixed.
      I'd walk away from this and have nothing to do with the repair based on the risk of further issues.

      • +6

        The reality is apple has already previously been smacked down by the ACCC for claiming warranties are invalid for cracked screens or repairs by non apple technicians. From that they changed the iphone warranty policy that they are still covered for this. You cannot refuse a warranty claim due to unrelated other damage, however if you can show the warranty claim may be related to their damage then you can refuse, but you can't just have a blanket refusal because the customer damaged the device or had it repaired elsewhere.

        • This won't get too many upvotes here… way to sensible.

        • Its too high risk with the amount of problems wrong with that device. If it wasn't as damaged as it is then I'd agree more.
          The repair agent isn't forced to accept all repair work either, they could easily say take it to Apple or elsewhere.

          Anything done to try rectify the display issue under recall could easily mean that the mainboard (which already has signs its been damaged) could become inoperable and then OP would kick-off and demand that repaired (replaced) at no cost. It's not "unrelated other damage" its the mainboard which provides output to the display.
          Thats a huge risk for any repair agent and while we don't know if they were jerks about it to OP or he just took it the wrong way (could be both) aside from trying to have Apple themselves look at it he's SOL.

          If it were physical damage to a case that did not impact any internal hardware (scratches maybe a dent or two) sure but this is just beyond reasonable.

          • +2

            @91rs: https://ibb.co/YRxhcr9

            Here is a photo of the screen. Judge for yourself if that is enough to brush a customer off like this

            • +1

              @dosada: oh no!!! The whole thing can explode and shatter into pieces if someone tried to replace the keyboard. It may even take someone's eye out along with minimum 3 limbs. What a world we live in.
              btw don't ask these types of questions on Ozb or the internet for that matter. Too many miserable experts out there. Having said that you'll get 1-2 helpful responses so may be worth the shot.
              Here's a tip… ask the question… DONOT engage with the usual responses until you hit the nugget… close thread.

            • @dosada: It appears only the screen bezel is cracked and not the glass itself. Which ever repair agent decline this a moron.

          • +1

            @91rs: yes the repair agents absolutely could decide, "sorry we won't look at that, please take it to apple for warranty repair", (assuming of course their agreement with apple allows them to do that). My point was his warranty absolutely is NOT void by his damage, though any part damaged by him or that can be attributed to that damage they are under no obligation to repair or replace under warranty, but they can't just deem a whole device has no warranty for damage to one part.

            reminds me of the old dodgy practise of those stickers on devices that said "warranty void if sticker broken", i.e. if you opened the device or case you had no warranty, those were also justly smacked down as unacceptable.

            • @gromit: He is still able to claim warranty. I don't think the discussion is revolving around that. Its the plain fact that the screen must be repaired before he can place the laptop into warranty service as apple does not want to be liable for a broken screen.

              • @AH: There have been multiple posters claiming that damage invalidates his warranty. Also I doubt they can force him to repair it just for a warranty claim unless the damage has rendered it inoperable.

        • https://ibb.co/YRxhcr9

          Here a photo of the damage to the screen.

          • @dosada: That looks really bad dude. And look at your filthy keyboard… I wouldn’t come a mile near your Mac

  • +2

    My 2018 MBP still looks brand new (other than the keyboard being a little shiny)

    What the hell did you do to this thing?

  • +1

    Get a samsung then- my friend's mobile phone broke out of warrantry- took it to the samsung centre in syd and got it fixed for free……….

  • Doesn't seems like Apple services to me. They at least could try charging you $$$ money for motherboard repair or whole screen with the frame and back light replacement. They try to profit from you or make you buy new machine. From watching Louis Rossman I know there is guy called Paul Daniels living in AU.

  • if you are looking for a solution rather than a whinge consider trying to repair it yourself.

    ask apple sunshine for the parts to do the trackpad repair or whatever it needs and watch google video or two showing how to teardown that model.

    you can also probably buy a replacement screen online. I replaced the screen in my 2010 ASUS 17" laptop when it developed a crack. actually upgraded the resolution of the existing screen from 1600x900 to 1920x1080 and am still using the laptop today.

    • +1

      This is where OP is in a tricky spot, Apple tightly controls the distribution of it's parts and if Apple sunshine did get the parts in they wouldn't hand it over as they have to perform the 'service' themselves to ensure it's all kocher.

      Might be able to pick up refurbished parts off Ebay though.

    • You as a consumer cannot replace a palm rest (bit that houses the keyboard) nor the screen. As you need the apple software to pair the keyboard/touchpad to the computer and run the software for Apples true tone to work. Without that software replacing those components is useless.

  • when centrecom refuse to fix it, you should go straight to Apple shop, do not call them, just went straight to the shop, I'm pretty sure they will repair it without any scene. now, probably your S/N has been recorded, you need to fight it up! don't be shy to quote ACCC when you talk to them. Off course, call ACCC and ask for their advise. don't worry about all the comment here.

  • thats what happens when you buy apple.

    • Or any computer company really!

  • +1

    Don't buy Apple products.

  • +2

    Is a company allowed to lie over and over again and keep changing their "policy" as they feel?

    Legally speaking, since you didn't have an agreement in place, yes they are. They are free to do whatever they want within the confides of the law.

    If they don't want to do the work, they can refuse the work. If they want to put conditions on their work, they are free to do so… again, so long as it doesn't break the law. They've made an offer, you have a choice to accept it or not. Until both parties have agreed to terms, they're free to set their own rules and change their mind, just like you're more than free to find another repairer who is willing to do the work under your rules.

    You are a moron.

    I'm not surprised you found customer service lady rude. I can't help but think of a quote: 'If you run into an (profanity) in the morning, you ran into an (profanity). If you run into assholes all day, you're the (profanity).'

    Makes me wonder.

    Good luck in repairing your laptop.

  • A self centered Man child get's bashed on the internet
    Hilarious!

  • +1

    Keep trying - go to different apple stores. It all depends on the vibes you give off and the people you speak to at the store.

    • No, don't waste the poor retail workers time over something that is his own doing. He'd just be getting angrier and angrier each store he visits until he ends up hurting someone no doubt. It sounds like there is something wrong with him, nothing good could come from that.

      • -2

        Something is wrong with me? Are you Dr. Phil in your free time?

        • They raise a good point that it would be counterproductive to go to multiple stores and you, or anyone, would get increasingly frustrated by it.

          But it's also not cool to bash you like that.

          I think that it's "wrong" that you're letting these kinds of comments get you to the point that you're calling other people "morons." If you can find a way to not let it get to you so much, I think it'd hold you in good stead.

  • +7

    OP is everything wrong with people these days. He's a Karen for sure.

    Maybe the problem was he took it to the wrong place? I mean if the "female worker" (why that needs to be listed I don't know) took it out the back to a "mechanic" might be part of the issue? maybe an oil change didn't fix it?

    Centrecom sound like an unpleasant mob to deal with from things I've heard about them, however you've damaged the laptop so all bets are off for everything.
    What if there's a recall on my car and I crash it and then go well you were going to fix it anyway right? why won't you fix it now its been crashed?
    throws tantrum in Karen

  • Sounds odd OP, but yeah dealing with an authorised repairer would no doubt be worse off than Apple themselves. I would try to get into an Apple store instead.

    Regardless, I wonder if you are still qualified to replace the Keyboard though, as the Keyboard replacement program still exists. The bonus of the keyboard replacement program is, it's entire bottom shell, except for the motherboard, so you will get a new touchbar, a new keyboard and also a new battery too, but they will reuse the logicboard and screen.

    • -1

      I would have been happy with that but they refuse to do this too. Unless of course, i pay first over $800 for the screen replacement.

    • Authorised repairers sometimes are better then Apple themselves at least in my case. I had a my MacBook Pro 2015 knocked back by Apple (Carindale, QLD) for a screen replacement even tho it was under the replacement program. As my battery was swollen and didn't come under there "recall program" even tho the battery only had 40 cycles out of 1000. They wanted me to pay $500 for a palm rest / battery replacement before they would replace the screen. I took it to an authorised repairer and it got covered under warranty.

  • +1

    Having read through many comments I'd suggest you buy a new laptop but this time if you buy Apple then get Apple Care+ or else just get yourself a nice Lenovo for almost half the price (they're always having sales just wait for some time). Windows PCs in general are tougher built. I can tell you stay away from Huawei, Samsung and Xiaomi laptops because they try to imitate Apple and so their build quality is also similar - nice and sleek but brittle. Almost everything else is built well. Lenovo keyboards are one of the best typing experiences
    You may also look into Surface laptops they're pretty sleek and built well but they tend to be expensive. Good luck.

    • -1

      I would never ever buy Apple if i had a choice. Not laptop, phone or anything else. Unfortunately, it is a requirement for the school my kid goes to and i have had no choice…

      • Wanted to add some more details of my experience but can't edit my post so I'll post a reply.

        … But I resonate with the double standards thought because I've been using Mac pros provided by my workplace for 5 years now and I've had some bad experiences with its brittleness. One of the laptops while I was putting it in my bag I hit it on its side to the table. It wasn't a bad hit probably a drop from a foot. The laptop completely stopped working it wouldn't even boot. I was mortified as I needed the laptop for work. Fine I thought I broke it I'll take it to Apple Care, didn't get an appointment for next 2 weeks. Took it in, the guy refused to cover it under warranty charged my company $800 for repair. With another laptop the butterfly keyboard started spassing out. They had Apple Care+ so they replaced the entire keyboard…

      • Looks like the school has a partnership with Apple so that they can get Apple products in kids hands and "convert" them into the Apple religion early on. Creating future customers that way. I wish they thought about what the kids will think when their beloved laptop breaks so easily, is a hassle to their parents to get repaired, oh and cannot play the games they love.

        • +2

          "so that they can get Apple products in kids hands and "convert" them into the Apple religion early on"

          Nothing to do with the fact apple products like the phones and ipads have an interface even stroke patients can understand and operate?
          Teachers are teachers, they're not IT experts, They could have a line the classroom deep for windows devices requiring fixes due to things downloaded and installed on devices not locked down (malware, ransomware etc).

        • -2

          Indeed. The results of the converted kids can be seen here.

          • +4

            @dosada: Sorry raised on DOS, Unix, Windows here. Try again.

      • +1

        I would never ever buy Apple if i had a choice. Not laptop, phone or anything else. Unfortunately, it is a requirement for the school my kid goes to and i have had no choice…

        Airpods are a requirement? Can't you use non Apple, wired or bluetooth headphones?

      • What if parents don't have money to buy Apple products then?

        • Most probably a private school. I doubt a public school would be able to enforce such restrictions.

  • Maybe i wasn't clear enough about the crack. It is not a crack tht goes all over the screen and most definitely not a crack that has in any way affected the LCD itself. I am well aware that some Apple fanboys will launch another attack and i honestly couldn't care less. I am just wondering if the damage is really justified to exclude a screen from a replacement program. Here a photo of the damage.

    https://ibb.co/YRxhcr9

    • I would say no but they might charge labour if they need to spend more time to pull out the screen because of the crack though. Let's just say if it is a screen protector instead of a crack they are not supposed to charge extra labour to replace the screen unless it is stuck in a way that they have to spend extra time remove the screen protector first before replacing the screen.

    • That’s the plastic panel or screen bezel logo cover, its like an easy repair separate from the glass screen, I put a skin over mine and then in the future I heat gun it out and replace it with an aliexpress part.

  • +4

    Former Apple employee here.

    On that model of MBP, to fix USB-C/Thunderbolt ports require replacement of the entire logic board (~$1200), Keyboard and touch bar are the entire top case of the machine (~$800), your damaged glass requires replacement of the entire display (~$1100) so essentially you have a complete write off in your hands mate.

    You damaged your machine buddy, it sounds like a likely liquid damage issue causing the ports/keyboard/touch bar issue.

    • Isn't the butterfly keyboard famous for breaking down even without any liquid damage? I mean it's been so bad Apple had to acknowledge the issue and the new Macs have a slightly "improved" keyboard, which I'm using right now at work.

      • +1

        Yes they are and yes it is. The keyboard actually is under a recall program but all of that is refused due to the damage to the screen. See the damage for yourself here

        https://ibb.co/YRxhcr9

    • +1

      Have a look at the photo and tell me this justifies the refusal of the repair.

      https://ibb.co/YRxhcr9

      • Wow! That's nothing at all. Reading the thread so far, I was convinced your laptop was in terrible condition, but it looks fine!

        I have the same Macbook and that section isn't glass - so technically your screen isn't broken…

        Go to Apple. I recently had the keyboard and (bottom case?) replaced as part of their repair program at a third-party repairer. Everything went perfectly. I think just go into an apple store when they re-open.

        • +1

          A broken screen is a broken screen. Just like how a windshield crack is easily able to spiderweb on a little force, removing the screen from the device to replace the motherboard can have the same effect. Who takes the blame should the screen crack during the repair from removing the screen? Apple or OP.

          • @AH: I agree, but did you look at the photo?

            The screen isn't cracked. The metal next to it is scratched to me.

            • -1

              @Free Parking: I don't think metal scratches like that and from what I remember there is no metal on the front of the display assembly. It's one interconnected piece of glass.

    • https://ibb.co/YRxhcr9

      Does this look like liquid damage to you? And no, the indicators have been checked and show no signs of liquid damage

    • +1

      Bruh get out, USB C (thunderbolt firmware chip) Winbond SPI-ROMs fails over time. The chip basically acts like memory reading and writing to it overtime it will eventually fail. You cannot assume he damaged his machine (apart from the screen) You sound like a typical "genius" that knowns nothing.

    • Good little Apple drone there.

  • Given that you were forced to buy a MBA in 2014, how were you forced to buy a MBP in 2016?

    • School usually takes more than two years in a K-9 college

  • Think the OP has tried getting away with a repair on something IMO he would be lucky to have repaired given his own initial caused damage. It may be unrelated, but I agree that any existing damage is a risk to a shop like CentreCom particularly. It's just not worth shops arguing with a potential 'Karen'.

    However … since he supposedly has evidence that Apple give the OK for a repair initially, he can escalate it to the next person up the Apple chain and I reckon they'll just sign off on a repair or replacement. Surely it would be logged in their own system without resorting to the voice recording as well. Not sure how the repair would work given COVID, but I'd say he would be in luck here … he should appreciate that rather than feel entitled to it.

  • Mate, clean your laptop. Must have donut crusts and drink stains.

    Smile and have a nice day.

  • OP has now been placed in the penalty box so can't come back and let us know the result.

    However, I don't think the answer is clear-cut either way & the OP would be better to lodge a case in small claims court. It may take some time but it's best started right away.

    Often I find that when people have no lateral movement/option they feel boxed in and can act in a negative way. Having said that… Unfortunately even if he won us over it would mean nothing at the end of the day. We don't make the call.

    OP, please test your case in XCAT. However, just stick to the facts with minimal emotion as the facts are the only thing that can be relied on.

    • They're only Penalty Boxed for three days, so I'm sure OP will be back with an update

      • Given how rude, entitled and obnoxious he has been, I think three days in pretty less. Not to sound racist but the username is a dead give away as well when it comes to entitlement.

  • +1

    i remember reading somewhere about a guy who went to samsung to get phone fixed because it died during warranty but the screen was chipped.

    samsung agreed to fix phone in warranty only if the customer paid for the screen replacement as well but in the end since the screen issue was not related to the dead phone, they refunded the screen cost. maybe on whirlpool or maybe on ozbargain

    • This exact scenario happened to me back in the day with my Galaxy S3. The S3 was notorious for the sudden death issue which killed the EMMC and prevented it from booting. Tried to get it replaced with Samsung but they wouldn't touch it until I paid $300 to replace the screen on it.

  • +1

    After reading majority of the comments and the op. It’s safe to say this was a very click baity title.

  • No double standards.

    I would think with any product, to claim under warranty, you would need to keep it in a clean condition to not negate the fact that you did not maintain it properly.

    Your laptop must have been pretty dirty to get centrecom to respond like that, like, literally man, out of all the points in time, you chose to hand in a poorly cleaned laptop?

    To be helpful, I would just have to wait and take it into Apple. 3rd party repairers generally don't want to deal with harder to solve problems, as I've experienced. I only do it for convenience and not having to talk to the apple staff who talk like I'm a child because they are trained that way to deal with the other mups.

  • -2

    Apple accepted you're MB and repaired but you may show up next day claiming MB has dead pixels and rest of repairs are good but now you demand Apple to fix my MB's dead pixel.

  • Is this the replacement program? https://support.apple.com/en-au/13-inch-macbook-pro-display-…

    If it is, then take note of the following statements from that link… some may have affected the outcome of their assessment:

    • Affected devices were sold between October 2016 and February 2018. Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider will service affected MacBook Pro units, free of charge.
    • Your MacBook Pro will be examined prior to any service to verify that it is eligible for this program.
    • If your MacBook Pro has any damage which impairs the service, that issue will need to be repaired first. In some cases, there may be a cost associated with the repair.
    • The program covers eligible MacBook Pro models for 4 years after the first retail sale of the unit.
  • Apple doesnt fall far from the tree. It's a shit company that sells exclusivity through poor products. Vote with your wallet and take logical steps to resolve issues.

    • Imagine actually believing this.

  • +1

    I wouldn’t touch some randoms disgusting MacBook either. God knows where it’s been

    • Luckily it's not other 12 year-olds that fix people's computers.

  • +2

    It's Apple. If you broke it, they want you to buy a new one, otherwise they don't want to know you.

  • +1

    Apple is a company I don't deal with anymore, expensive products to buy and even more expensive to repair.

    • Or you know, just look after your stuff with a modicum of respect.

      • +1

        yeh agree I've purchased other laptop brands not needing recalls.

        If only apple made products with respect to the customer who is paying a premium for those products

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