Aqara Smart Temperature Humidity Sensor is compatible with most of the Zigbee hubs (Aqara, SmartThings, Conbee, CC2531, Nortek etc). Also compatible with Apple Homekit..
This is the lowest price every for this sensor. It sells for almost same price on AliExpress.
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Compatible with most of the Zigbee hubs.
What other hubs do you mean. I have a sengled ZigBee hub. You mean it works with that ? I always thought the sengled ZigBee hub only works with sengled.
Aqara, SmartThings, Conbee etc
@harry2015: While it's compatible with smartthings, the experience can be hit and miss as it requires custom device handler and the device does not always stay connected to the hub as xiaomi did not implement a fully compliant zigbee protocol. I have 3 of these, 2 have disconnected from my smartthings hub. 1 refuse to reconnect.
@aarick: I have used these sensors with Smartthings without issues.
You might need to update your device handler.
I am now using them with Conbee and Home Assistant, they work great, never dropped out on me.
@DiSTURBED-oNE: how long have you had this? I have had xiaomi on smartthings since I moved from hub v1 to hub v2 (US version)…
so for over 4 years now….it will work fine for awhile then eventually drop off. I had it been fine for a year than randomly all would drop off and have to repair each of them. It would be fine for another 3 months then drop off again. My device handlers are all up to date.
@aarick: Have you done the standard troubleshooting steps like changing your ZigBee channel? Moving your Hub to another location?
I ran my ST for 3 years before moving to Home Assistant.
@DiSTURBED-oNE: Was that 3 years with Xiaomi devices? you have been lucky then. Xiaomi devices dropping off is a well known issue and always talked about on the smartthings forums.
"The SmartThings V2 hub can change its zigbee channel, but only if you do a factory reset and lose all your existing information, and the channel is reset randomly so you can’t specify what the new one will be and you might even get the old one again."
are you aware of a way to do it without resetting? I have too many devices and automation setup and don't have the time to reconfigure everything.
@aarick: no, requires a reset.
It's a little hard in your situation.
During my PoC stage of setting up my home, I did a lot of testing and made sure I kept resetting the hub until I was on a good clear channel.
I work in IT so I have a radio analyser to see what frequencies are being used in the air.
One thing you can do, is ensure your wifi channels are set away from your Zigbee channel. The ST ZigBee channel can be seen through the IDE.
Have a read of this:
https://www.metageek.com/training/resources/zigbee-wifi-coex…
Then for example, if you ZigBee is set to channel 11.
Move your 2.4GHz wifi to channel 11.
This is because ZigBee channel 11 overlaps Wifi channel 1 but not 6 or 11.
@DiSTURBED-oNE: ya…I learnt about zigbee the hard way through the constant drop out of xiaomi devices.
I work in IT as well, but not in networking.
My channels are far enough apart (ZigBee on 19, WiFi on 1) which does not overlap as far as I am aware.
(https://community.smartthings.com/t/faq-networking-and-reduc…)
I know my issues is probably made worst by 2 things, xiaomi zigbee smart plugs (which are bad repeaters, but great device and never drops out) and having more than 32 zigbee devices.
Hub v2 has a limit of 32 zigbee devices connected directly to the hub. But I have plenty of repeaters scattered around the house including the Ikea ones which are suppose to be really good repeaters, but still have dropouts occurring.
Next plan of attack is to maybe plug my v1 hub back in and move non important devices across. Hoping that will reduce drop out, but I know this will introduce more interference as well.
Why did you move to Home Assistant? I was contemplating doing the same at one point and have Xiaomi devices connected directly to a xiaomi gateway and bridged to home assistant via MQTT.
@aarick: ah, so I never had that many devices connected to my ST and the Xiaomi plugs do not do repeating well with non-Xiaomi hubs.
This might be why you are having drop out issues.
I moved away from Smarthings / Webcore ——> Home Assistant + ConBee stick / deconz (Zigbee) + Aeotec Z-Wave Stick (Z-Wave).
Mainly for:
* At the time there were no Australian Smartthings Hubs, so I couldn't use Z-Wave and I wanted Z-Wave for my light switches, exhaust fans etc.
* No need for device handlers for Zigbee, Deconz has support for so many devices out of the box.
* Home Assistant is very actively developed and they are constantly adding new features and integrations.
* Cloud - Smarthings servers would often go down, also a delay in switching things on and off because it had to go to the internet. With Home Assistant, its all local LAN traffic, so it's pretty much instant.
* More control and flexibility, Home Assistant is more open and allows you to run it on many different platforms and systems and lets you do things that are not possible on ST.
The only thing I miss about ST is Webcore. I found it really easy to build automations.
With Home Assitant, YAML is pretty easy to learn, but automations are harder to build and most people move to Node-RED which is an automation platform ontop of Home Assitant, which again as a big learning curve.
But all the other benefits of Home Assistant outweighed this.
Unfortunately I have one of the ones that it doesn't work with :(
You’d need a compatible hub (Aqara, SmartThings, Conbee etc)
What's with people downvoting you…
Zigbee devices require a Zigbee Coordinator (router) to function, sometimes called a Hub.
Are people disagreeing with this?
Wow so cheap, I just ordered two for $35 from alibaba the other day but shipping takes forever. Bummer I didn’t wait a little
longer to grab this deal.
What examples have people got for automation with this sensor?
when humidity below 40 turn on humidifier, when humidity above 60 turn humidifier off. Aircon on heat when temp below 18c for kids room.
My fav one I've done with it is "if humidity above 60 than turn on extractor fan" for the others in the house that forget to turn it on when having a shower etc
What do you need to have hooked into the extractor fan to be able to turn it on? Smart switches?
I haven't started my smart home setup in our new house yet but didn't do smart lights during the build as I didn't want wifi ones.
@kulprit: My exhaust fan is connected to one of these in the wall: https://www.smarthome.com.au/aeotec-z-wave-nano-switch.html
Notification if wine fridge goes out of range.
I put one of these inside the wine fridge as a backup monitor. I've had a Vintec die on me, and I have no idea how long it was out for as we only visit the fridge occasionally to get a 'good' wine, not the quaffers that live in the kitchen. The fridge looked and sounded fine, it was only when we opened it one day to get a bottle that we discovered it was about 25 degrees inside the fridge >:(
Have one in my bathroom.
When the humidity goes above a threshold (usually when someone is showering) it turns on the exhaust fan.
Then when it goes back down to a level I have set, it turns off the exhaust fan.
Aircon control but I usually just have to have nice looking graph on my home assistant.
What air con controller do you have? I've installed izone and am still getting used to it.
I have pretty old Samsung one, I just use old remote to record all command to Broadlink IR. It essentially will only change output speed or mode or turn on or off. As pretty much all my aircon is pretty old and and half remote screen is dying so nice to know I can turn my aircon at least ON/OFF if my remote ever gives up on me.
Does it work with the Xiaomi gateway as opposed to the Aqara gateway? (I see it says 'works with mija' which may suggest that it does)
Yep it does
Are you certain before I place an order?
99% certain. I have both Aqara and Xiaomi sensors and previously had them hooked up to my Xiaomi Gateway. This includes the temperature sensors and buttons, etc. Now hooked up to Samsung Smartthings
100% certain. I have this setup. A bit annoying to setup sometimes as the Gateway just says speaks to me in Chinese, but it works.
The gateway is also on sale with the same seller for around $30,pretty cheap
It is a Chinese version. You can not control both Chinese and International device at the same time. I.g Xiaomi Robot Vacuum Cleaner Int version can not be used in the Chinese gateway.
You definitely can with two mi home installations.
Why would you run anything on the international version? (Curious as I have one of the earlier Robovac's and gateways). Seems everything (or a far larger number of items are on the Chinese gateway). I run my setup on mainland China (In English)
Mine speaks to me in Chinese, maybe Intl doesn't?
@blorx: I know robovac language can be changed to english even on CHina servers, can't the gateway be changed as well?
Google Home integration only works with International servers. But my robots stopped working anyway via Google Assistant. Only my air purifiers work but kind of useless integration.
First of all, All Xiaomi International version sold in Australia can not be registered to Chinese mainland server. It means Chinese Version gateway loses a control on the aussie version devices.
iPhone can not install Duplicated Mi Home app. So it needs to switch country to setup or receive notification from each server. It is the most annoying part of the app.
Why do we run Chinese version and send them to Chinese main land server which has different privacy policy? They can be served to the government as other Chinese's service do.
@[Deactivated]: Huh? What aussie version? No such thing. I bought locally Xiaomi and just set it up to China (Mainland).
It makes absolutely no difference to their Chinese propaganda/spying machine if you set the region to anything else other than China, the app still sends all the information there..
Has anyone been able to use these with the Echo Plus which is also a zigbee hub?
I have a number of these and this is a good price. If you need a smart button it's worth considering smartthings button which JB is selling on special from $20. It combines both temp sensor and button in one.
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/samsung-smartthings-butto…
Tempting, but says nothing about a temp sensor in the description?
yes I think i read somewhere it does also. I know their other sensors definitely have a temperature sensor. Might buy one to try. Currently using Xiaomi and Aqara buttons with Smartthings.
In the product description
"Temperature Detection
Temperature Detection…
Stay at your personal atmosphere
Know when the temperature unexpectedly changes, so your devices can take care of it. See your temperature in real time on a SmartThings app and set your other devices to respond when a change takes place so your AC, fan, heater and more can step in to make things comfortable again.*"
Whether this works or not is another issue (reviews seem mixed)…
I can't speak for Smartthings hub however I use homeassistant with zigbee2mqtt and it detects the temperature. From here, it's only a matter of setting up an automation as you would with any other sensor.
Worth noting that often with these devices the secondary sensor (like Temperature) is only triggered (and data sent back to the hub) when the primary function is activated (i.e. someone pushes the button). I don't know if that's the case with the SmarthThings button but it's worth keeping in mind if you primarily want temperature monitoring.
Oh interesting. I didn't know that. Xiaomi or Aqara sensors are better as they sync upon change in temperature or humidity.
I checked my SmartThings button and it reports the temp every 5 minutes.
That's good. I wasn't suggesting they didn't just that it can be a problem with some of the battery based Zigbee devices.
I might even use the Smartthings button now I know that!
Any other stores have the smart button that I can price match as JB's don't have these near me for pickup ?
Don't you need the SmartThings hub for this to work? Or can I use it with the Xiaomi Gateway?
Anyone know of one that works without hub? Ive just got google home.
It won’t work without hub
Yeh that’s correct, I was wanting to know if anyone recommended one that worked without a hub
I have the xiaomi hub but find it is slowly fading and becoming unreliable. What is the recommendation for the next best hub compatible with my 20 or so devices. Not concerned about price
Zigbee2mqtt on home assistant is awesome
Really interested in the Zigbee2mqtt. Any issues with any of the xiaomi devices? Would love to kill the gateway.
Nope, I was able to repair all my motion/door/temp sensors without any issues. Just have do one by one so you know which on associated to which sensor. I using light switches/power plug to extend my network. It seem to work as Zigbee map is showing device that further away is connecting to light/power plug instead of hub.
I have been using for half a year and no issues. I have also slowly adding non xiaomi zigbee stuff(Lights/Switches) and pretty much all straight out of box.
Now my gateway is just a speaker/light.
Hold up. Are you saying I can connect all of my zigbee devices straight to Home Assistant with this without the need for a gateway like the Xiaomi?
Yes - https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/deconz/
Otherwise you can pick up a CC2531 stick for ~$10, with the right firmware and zigbee2mqtt.io it'll do similar. I've been running one for a few years now with only a few issues (mostly around the way I renamed a few devices and hassio had a stroke). Don't have the issues with range that others do however I've got Xiaomi power plugs scattered around the house too so they act as repeaters.
I've not used deconz/conbee but by all accounts the interface is a bit nicer/tidier than using mqtt as the middleman.
EDIT: Whoops, thought this was the ConBee deal thread. Comments still stand re CC2531. There's a few people around with the programming kit that could flash it and repost to you but it seems AliExpress are now doing pre-flashed ones.
@KablammoNick: Zigbee2MQTT compatible devices page seem to suggest CC2531 is relatively low powered in terms of processing capability and antenna signal. Okay for small number of devices but will need something more powerful if many devices are in use.
Can you share your experience with CC2531? In terms of number of device? Thank you.
@BlueSkyAPI: My house is a steel frame, ~22 x 7m. The hassio box (USFF Lenovo) and CC2531 are located inside a network cabinet in the linen cupboard, which is about halfway along the house.
Currently have 22 devices, 4 of which are the Xiaomi plugs - most located towards the back of the house. The rest are temp (both round and square versions), motion, door/window and a smoke detector.
My config is a bit (profanity) ATM because of some quirks with renaming devices - I think I'd done a few through the z2m config, some in customize.yaml and some in the UI. Haven't gotten around to fixing it as they all seem to still be reporting status just fine.
I have a second CC2531 here that I was planning on using as a router if need be, but the power plugs seem to be doing ok - the network map is screwy but it does appear some of the devices are connected through them as routers, not directly to the coordinator, so that helps with the device limit.
If I was starting from scratch again, I would prob look at a CC2531 with presoldered antenna connecctor as some AliExpress sellers now have. Mate of mine soldered one onto his standard 2531 and it works fine.
EDIT: I'm also still running a Hue hub v2, none of the ~15 Hue globes & lamps are connected via the CC2531. Although I believe they are classed as Routers so may improve coverage if I did so.
@KablammoNick: I have a similar setup with zigbee2mqtt. I ran it on a raspberry pi and while z2m was great, the hassbian was unstable af (breaks down frequently, OS just sh*ts itself requiring a reinstall).
I had to port over homeassistant to my home NAS for around 3 months as at writing and am happy to say it is very stable.
Just to clarify KablammoNick's comment, you still need something like the Conbee or CC2531 so that HA can talk to the zigbee devices. Think of it as still a hub, but one that you have more control over than a 'classic' hub. And where you generally don't have to worry about whether someone's zigbee implementation is a bit more propietary than you might have expected.
yep, I've been using a Conbee stick with deconz.
What do you mean by 'slowly fading'? I have noticed mine randomly dropping out recently and connected devices going offline. I'm wondering if it's a hardware issue.
I can recommend Smartthings. Not 100% perfect with Xiaomi and Aqara sensors but after a while they stabilise. Probably also helps if you have multiple Meshed hubs as i noticed my sensors dropped out less now that I have a second hub upstairs to extend my wifi.
I bought a ConBee II, it's not entirely plug and play (takes some tinkering to get it all set up) but it's been very reliable since then.
My Xiaomi gateway was fading like you said, eventually I was just using it as a sensor light and even then it has died again. Destined for landfill at this point.
"Currently, there are no sellers that can deliver this item to your location."
pls upadte , out of stock :(
It is Currently unavailable.
dang just got the xiaomi sensor from their website yesterday for $25.
but that doesnt require a hub to run so should be all good
Wanting to get this to sit in my network rack to kick in fans when it gets above certain temperature.
Idea is to get fans to turn on it will turn on smart plug in rack with fans plugged into it. Do you think that's acheivable with this?
yes, one of the more simple automations to build.
Ah, damn, I didn't even think of that, I could have got one to stick in my hifi cabinet to monitor it.
Wow, this must be one the cheapest HomeKit accessories around assuming it does actually support HomeKit like it states it does. Pity I just missed it.
It works with HomeKit via their Hub.
A hub is a pre-requisite for HomeKit, the sensor doesn't walk to HomeKit directly.
Hmmm, ok, so not like Elgato where it communicates directly with the HomeKit Hub (iPad / Apple TV / HomePod) via bluetooth?
nope. HomeKit enabled hub required.
i find myself +ing posts coz of the good discussions
Needs the hub to work.
I think that's an important piece of information