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The seller also listed other Cuchen rice cookers, e.g., 6 cups model and non-IH models.
Cuchen WHA-LX1001iDAU 10 Cups IH Induction Pressure Rice Cooker $468 Shipped (via Afterpay) @ save_dollar eBay AU
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Buffet Squirrel on 25/05/2020 - 16:46 ebay.com.au (624 clicks)
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you read my mind. You can buy decent non Anko ones for like $50-$75 from the asian stores.
What does a $500 unit do better?
high end rice cookers are microcomputer-controlled allowing them to "make decisions" as they cook the rice
u mean AI?
IH cooker is generally more expensive and "Most foodies are inclined to agree that rice cooked in an IH and Micom cooker is by far fluffier and tastier than that cooked on the hob, or in a conventional machine."
What does it do though? To make the rice fluffier.
I was curious too and did a search ; here's a link that had a write up about "IH" pressure cooker ; it's not the same brand or model … but you get the idea:
from : https://www.prestigehomeappliances.com.au/shop/optimum-multi…
"The PressureCook Pro’s advanced induction heating technology sets it apart from conventional pressure cookers. With induction heating, the heat being induced in the vessel is transferred to the food via conduction.On the other hand, conversional cookers initially heat up the element before directing the heat to the cooking vessel and the food, a method which wastes energy."
- I'm pretty sure both ways gets the heat transferred to the food by 'conduction'
and from here : https://www.froothie.com.au/pressurecook-pro
"INDUCTION HEATING
A method of heat transfer, induction heating generates an electric current to create a magnetic field that transfers heat to a cooking vessel. It is more energy efficient than standard heating technologies, such as electrical cookers, and cooks food more evenly."I think I will save dollar
@utopia: I find the cheap $13 kmart variety do a good enough job for sure, however i do find that they will burn the bottom of the rice if not taken out of the rice cooker so it's wise to fluff the rice up when finished and remove from cooker as the base stays too hot and ends up browning/burning the rice which some may like i guess.
I'm sure this $468 would do a better job and will cook the rice more evenly and can be kept warm without burning the rice which would make sense for restaraunts, big families etc
My favourite method of cooking rice is actually the microwave, it's fool proof and great when you don't want to cook a lot of rice. 1 cup of rice, 2 cups of water for 15 minutes. Always turns out great. YMMV
https://www.amazon.com.au/Sistema-Microwave-Rice-Steamer-Red…
@utopia: I discuss in depth what induction cooking is in this article, but to recap: the heat used in induction cooking is created by a magnetic field that develops when the copper coil of the heating element reacts with the conductive metal of the pan.
This creates an electric current inside the pot itself, which heats the food.
This warming method improves the rice cooker in three ways, the most important of which is that, instead of the heat coming strictly from the element beneath the cooking pan, the heat is generated all throughout the pan itself, resulting in more even cooking.
Secondly, with induction cooking, temperature sensing is more accurate, allowing for more delicate temperature adjustments.
Finally, and this is also the biggest selling feature of induction ranges for serious cooks, the temperature is changed instantaneously when the adjustment is made.
With a traditional heating element, when you lower the temperature because the rice is cooking too quickly, it takes a minute or two for the temperature within the cooking pan to even out, which could result in scorching.
This does not pose a problem with an inductive heat rice cooker.
https://foodal.com/kitchen/kitchen-appliances/rice-cookers/c…
ie no more burn bottom!
@utopia: The heating element usually only heats the bottom or a small spot on the bottom. Induction heats the entire vessel uniformly. High end rice cookers also use “fuzzy logic” or PID algorithms to keep the water at a constant precise heat rather than cycling up and down the way a traditional thermostat does. Lastly expensive rice cookers often have a pressure cooking function which allows for faster cooking times and improved texture.
Difference is massive. Even if you use good quality rice in those cheap non-pressured rice cookers, rice will come out looking dull and tastes crap.
Cuckoo is a better brand than Cuchen though.
Good quality rice turn out crap when cooked in 'cheap non-pressured rice cookers' - what about cheap pressure cookers?
https://www.kmart.com.au/product/5.5l-pressure-cooker/219782… a $59 pressure cooker that does rice in 12 minutes- Do you think will do a non-crap job on good quality rice?
No. My sister has Philips pressure cooker and it does terrible rice.
Wouldnt trust any of the western branded rice cookers tbh.
i was wondering about this, it looks very very similar to a cuckoo cooker. That being said they can be had for about $500-550 with the ebay 20% off coupons. I would expect given the price of both that the cuckoo is worth the extra ~$100?
i have a $300 Tiger, and I find one of the best things it does is brown rice - it comes out perfectly fluffy everytime without a single bit sticking the bowl. These rice cookers do not cook rice any faster, but the end result is on another planet in terms of quality and consistency. If you eat rice several times a week these are 100% worth it imo.
Hi Boioioioi, a few things to put it in perspective a bit. For what it's worth, I hadn't heard of Cuchen though. Anyway, Zojiroshi, Tiger and Cuckoo are what I would have considered the Big 3 of the rice cooking world. The more expensive ones also have more than one function, eg, functions for porridge/congee, slow cook, steam, plain rice, quick rice, mixed, sweet, brown, multigrain, slow cook and steamer; and use fuzzy logic or alternative technologies to differentiate and adjust, for example, between white and brown rice cooking times to get the job done better. They take longer; though, so not for the inpatient. Basic plain white takes about an hour to steam. We cook rice four or fives times a week and use the slow cook or porridge setting a couple of times a week as well. I'd say, if you're only eating rice once a fortnight, you don't need nor would appreciate high-end rice cooker. If you're eating rice very often, then you'd know and appreciate the difference.
Even if it cooked rice in one minute compared to around ten with a $20 rice cooker that isn't a good enough benefit to justify the extra $448
you can buy a lot of f'ing 25kg bags of sunlong from colesworth for $448!
people who use this machine tend not to buy sunlong or rice from colesworth
trash rice and probably inflated price
go to a decent sized asian store and get the imported thai rice. should be cheaper and much betterwe prefer if u buy the cooker instead of all the rice
These not only cook rice well but they usually keep the rice warm and fresh for ~24 hours. They're for families who eat rice with almost every meal so they can make one batch a day and always have cooked rice on hand.
Keeping rice in the cooker for 24hrs?
That's just asking for a one way ticket to the nearest emergency dept…I don't see how that would work.
When rice is finished it has absorbed all the moisture. If you don't eat it right away it dries out with continued heat.
If you put enough water in for it to only be finished in many hours it will be super gluggy and mushy and disgusting.
I can't see how it can possibly keep rice for extended periods
I’m not sure, not done it myself, but that is how they are used in Japanese families. Go have a look around the back next time they’re packing your steamed rice at your local asian takeaway, it will probably be out of one of these (probably a cheaper Tiger model)
The description in the listing says nothing about it keeping for a long time, so you've just made that up. And whoever downvoted me doesn't know how to read obviously. If that was the feature that differentiated this machine from $20 rice cookers then you would think they would tell you.
@Quantumcat: That's why I kept it vague and said they USUALLY keep warm for APPROXIMATELY 24 hours. Its a pretty universal feature among the fancy Japanese/Korean rice cookers. See the 'steam warm' button on the left?
Bro these are ubiquitous in Japanese households, if a $20 rice cooker did everything the same then that's what they would all have.
@Cheaplikethebird: How can you say this machine usually does anything when it says nothing of the kind in the description? Just because it costs an astromical amount does that mean it has to be the same as the machines you are thinking of? Next time I sell a car I should list it for $80,000 and buyers might think oh it must be a Tesla if it is selling for that much.
No, there's no difference between this and a regular cooker except for the fact it uses induction, which might make it not burn on the bottom.
Which is not worth so much extra - if a cheap rice cooker burns on the bottom then just cook extra rice so you won't need to eat the burned part (and it will just lift out of the bowl as rice cooker bowls are non stick). If rice is say $2 a kilo and if generously you need an extra 50g rice to cover the burned part - that's 10c worth of rice, to break even you would need to eat rice EVERY day for twelve and a half years, to make it worth while getting an induction rice cooker, assuming all induction rice cookers cost this much (and they probably don't).
@Quantumcat: FFS mate. They all look the same, they’re at the same price point, same consumer market, and it has the (profanity) button for it. I reckon it’s a safe assumption, no?
I don’t know if it’s really relevant anyway though because it seems the argument we’re having is not whether this specific cooker is worth it but whether fancy Jap/Kor rice cookers in general are better than a $20 Kmart cooker and there I say that 130m people whose staple food is rice probably aren’t just too dumb to realise they could be doing the same thing on a Kmart cooker.
it seems the argument we’re having is not whether this specific cooker is worth it
No, that is exactly the argument we are having.
This cooker is $500 and has no benefit listed above a $20 cooker except that it is induction.
Everything else has nothing to do with anything
@Quantumcat: I would love to continue this debate but I gotta catch up on a bunch of work I've been avoiding and we're getting into the end of the argument where I have to do research and I don't have time. I just don't want you to think my lack of response is me admitting defeat haha.
@hodgey: Haha bless, g. Honestly I’ve agreed with quantum on quite a bit in the past but half the fun of OzBargain is these arguments. It’s all in good humour I hope.
I bought a stupidly expensive Zojiroshi rice cooker once. About $750. The lid somehow got a cosmetic dent in it from shipping. It had pressure and induction cooking. Took bloody almost an hour to cook the rice and whilst the rice had a nicer texture and a bit fluffier it wasn't worth it. Also because of the pressure function, I couldn't put other ingredients like veggie or meat in it, which made it useless for making really nice flavoured rice porridge. I've never been so thankful for a product getting damaged, so I got a full refund. Using just a standard rice cooker now. Even the microwave pots can make decent rice once you work out the water level, power and time settings for your particular microwave.
Yes, finally some deals on decent rice cookers. Thanks OP!
Hi All, I have the cheap $13 ones and they burn the bottom of the rice so I am thinking of upgrading to a good one.
With regards to these cookers listed, what is the minimum amount of rice you should cook? I have looked through the manual but couldn't see anything in there about the minimum cups that the device requires. For instance can I safely put in 2 cups of rice instead of 6 or 10 which is the size of the cookers.They won't burn the bottom of the rice if you use the correct ratio of rice and water.
Yes the minimum amount of rice that can be cooked in these 5 and 10 cup machines is usually 2 cups. When measuring out the cups it is best to use the rice measuring cup supplied with the machine.
If you are usually cooking smaller batches of rice it's best to buy the smaller rice cooker.
What a waste of money. The appox. $100 Panasonic machine has been found to be the best for jasmine and brown rice.
Lol, induction cooker technology for this is stupid. What a gimmick targeted at asians..There are $10 watch and $500 watch, same goes to speakers, headphone, cars, restaurant food, tv, smartphone, oven, coffee machine or rice cooker.
I agree with some people here, don't spend extra money if you think "all the rice" taste the same, same for coffee machine or anything else.
Yeah but the thing is your analogies seem to be pretty obvious compared to the anko vs $500 cooker.
If you have a $200 phone vs. a samsung s10 then even blind freddy can see the difference.
If you have a $20k hundai vs a $200k Mercedes then the difference is clear.
No one has adequately described how good a $450 cooker is.
You dont need to describe why a Mercedes is good or why a Samsung S10 is good.
I am not disagree with you, but there are people think why buy a Mercedes when corolla can also take you from location A to B, why pay $1000+ phone when $200 phone will do the same jobs. Or why pay hundreds more for a rice cooker when Anko will do the same jobs.
I will not say you should buy an expensive or cheap phone, car or rice cooker, buy whatever you want :). The good thing in Ozbargain? We could buy all of them at lower price.
Gets the same response every rice cooker thread, if you're cooking with anything anko branded this is not aimed at you
Korean and Japanese rice cookers are in a league of their own and people will and do pay the extra money for it. Keep an open mind, if someone absolutely loves rice and wants perfect rice every time then $500 isn't really a stupid investment. I used to think people that spent thousands on a coffee machine were loopy until I bought one and make consistent, cafe-quality coffee whenever I want using the same beans as they do. Don't even have to pay extra if I slip in an extra shot once in a while.
What is the advantage of a rice cooker like this compared to my $13 Kmart rice cooker?