Long-lasting and uniform warmth thanks to the long thermal inertia of the oil inside the unit – recommended for rooms up to 35m3 - 7 Year Warranty on all De’Longhi Oil Column Heaters
XXL Extra Large Radiant Surface with 11 fins allows a faster air-flow emission and increases the chimney effect
Optimise energy consumption thank to Eco Plus Function
Program daily working time in 15-minute increments and save energy with 24H Timer; Select your desired temperature with room thermostat
Safety Features include: Low Surface temperature cooler to touch; Safety Tilt Switch turns off if unit tips over; overheating safety Thermal Cut-off; Anti-frost Function activates below 5ºC; Cord Storage
Easy to move thanks to Pre-assembled Snap Lock Castors and Cool Touch Handle
De'Longhi Dragon 4, Portable Oil Column Heater, 1200W, TRD41200MT, White $99.99 Delivered @ Amazon AU
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Not the same product/quality
The Kmart one is the same product, it's an oil heater.
It is even a better product as it costs less and has a greater great output.
You forget other factors like efficiency and reliability.
@FireRunner: The fact remains every single electric plug in heater has the same efficiency - converting 1 unit of electricity to 1 unit of heat.
An oil heater is no more efficient than a fan heater.
Oil heaters benefit is it is quiet, but takes longer to heat up and then longer to cool down, but there's no extra efficiency in them.
Far better in the long term if you can (ie afford and not renting), to install a split system A/C - you get 4-5 units of heat for 1 unit of electricity so actually 4-5 times more efficient than plug in heaters.
We run our split system all winter and don't get huge bills, run a plug in heater moderately and easily get huge bills.
@placard: I'm demolishing my house this coming summer, what do you recommend
@itshammer: Ducted or splits?
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries is a good brand as is Daikin or Panasonic.
I'm happy enough with my Fujitsus but some say the quality has declined.
@FireRunner: Both are 100% efficient
Obviously not the same product. But every oil heater I’ve ever used is about the same.
Its 6 fins not 11.
What is normal price/ and any discount for bigger one?
Here is a bigger one for $55
https://www.kmart.com.au/product/11-fin-oil-heater/2903324That looks too cheap to be any good
It looks like a 2400w oil heater to me
It's an oil heater as long as it passes safety specifications that's all that really matters.
That would be low quality Anko, right?
With 12 month warranty, tested to applicable Australian electrical safety standards and certified as compliant with durability and performance testing carried out prior to QA approval.
Had the 11fin for a few years now.. great heater for the little ones during the night.
That's a ridiculous RRP
Wouldn't the standard 11 fins 2400W oil heaters from kmart/bigw/bunnings/HN be better since the wattage is higher meaning it heats up faster?
They probably won't heat up faster as they have more oil/fins to heat up but as they are 2400w they will provide more heat.
Exactly - whilst it may/may not heat up to max temperature faster itself, it does produce more heat, so heats up the room faster vs a lower wattage one.
and for less money. Let's face it this is tech that's been around for decades, just about anyone can make a decent one of these, no need to spend DeLonghi prices for one. If you really wanted to save you could pick one up from the side of the road next hard rubbish day, odds on it will work
Get another $10 off if you haven't used this deal yet https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/538670#comment-8738676
Difference between this and the convection heaters?
Like this one for $49?$50
Different tech - uses halogen elements to heat air within the chamber vs a solid heating element that heats up oil within the fins. Halogen elements won't keep heat after heating up (unlike oil heaters), so will need to be on for longer to keep heating but will heat up air passing through it much faster. Turns and roundabouts.
Different tech - uses halogen elements to heat air within the chambe
No they don't use halogen. They are a resistive heater.
Halogen heaters do not heat the air they heat objects through infrared radiation.
so will need to be on for longer to keep heating but will heat up air passing through it much faster. Turns and roundabouts.
No both types are fundamentally resistive element heaters and produce the same amount of heat for the same run time
How about cost to run, which one is cheaper to run?
Many thanks@Edsanwong: Assuming they both draw the same Watts then they both cost the same to run, and they both will give the same amount of heat
Not sure about the convection one. But main difference I saw between normal fan heaters and oil heaters was dry air. Blowers make room.air vry dry. Oil heaters won't.
I would prefer oil over others fan heaters.
They take time to heat up though.
This will give you more heat and costs much less
To buy… not run
Set the fan heater to 50% heat and they will both cost the same to run
Set the fan heater to 100% heat and it will cost twice as much to run and give you twice as much heat.
Not really. This will heat up the air going through it much much faster after start vs an oil heater. But an oil heater will keep heating the surrounding air after reaching the required temp whereas the fan models will stop heating as soon as they are turned off - air rises and heat dissipates.
@bargainshooter: Oil units don't stay hot that long after being turned off. Unless I don't understand what you're trying to say?
Thanks for all your input into this thread
@bargainshooter: It's really swings and round abouts. Electric fan heater doesn't need to heat up, and stops working the second you turn it off. Oil heater takes a while to heat up and also takes a while to cool down. Both units are 100 percent efficient (or nearly).
That said, oil heater have a very important advantage - far less of a fire risk, especially if you're going to sleep in the room with them on or leave them unattended.
Mind you, both are horrific price wise to actually run for any decent length of time.
@Ezuku: Exactly - one is no more efficient than the other.
Benefit is silent and safer though.
For efficiency use reverse cycle air con.
Too noisy for sleeping toddler bedrooms though. We tried fan units, we stopped because we value our sleep
Is this more energy efficient than an air conditioner?
No it isn't
On ave close to 30% as efficient…
What you mean by this? As 70% better than air con on heating?
No. Like 3-4 times worse.
A typical air conditioner will be around 300-450 percent efficient. So for every 1 kw of energy you put in you get 3.5 kw of heat out (it does this witchcraft by shifting heat rather than directly changing electricity to heat). An electric heater will be about 100 percent efficient.
Realistically units like this are very deceptively expensive, since the upfront cost is minimal but the ongoing costs are horrific. I don't see there as being much role for this if you can use an ac. In fact I'd suggest that if possible getting an ac if you can (not renting) rather than an electric heater would be a very sensible move if you plan on even the slightest bit of usage.
@Ezuku: Knew this would come up and I don't disagree. However, there are a few things to consider.
First, can an aircon be installed in the room? I've two rooms that can't have a system installed. I say can't because it would be stupidly expensive due to where they are and design of house. So, can an AC even be installed?
Next point is cost. I could get an Aircon installed in the hallway that leads to these rooms and was quoted about $3000. However, the heat won't go directly into the rooms, thus not as efficient.
Finally, how often do you need to heat the room? I use them at most a few hours a day and only need to heat at night. Plus, it's not all the year at night they need to be heated.
Aircons are great for when you know there will be medium to heavy frequent use. But there's more to it than just aircons are more efficient so they win and you gotta install one.
P.S: window aircons another option but assuming you want to keep your window.
And it's gone.
It’s gone folks.
Gone already.
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Kmart anko unit 55 delivered.
Excellent quality same basic product.
Been using mine for 3 weeks in the shed, perfect
Kmart also manage to deliver without wasteful packaging too.
I know it includes delivery, but why this over an Arlec from Bunnings?
https://www.bunnings.com.au/arlec-2400w-11-fin-oil-column-he…Quick Google and apparently it's the room temp control feature. Budget oil heaters apparently aren't as accurate with their temp control but delonghi and other more expensive brands are. I'm not saying more accurate temp control is worth the cost.
Can order it as backorder now, but no ETA available yet.
Is ceramic better than oil column?
https://www.delonghi.com/en-au/products/comfort/portable-hea…They both do the same thing and cost the same to run for the same heat generated
https://www.bunnings.com.au/arlec-1500w-7-fin-oil-heater_p01…
Bought this one last month, using the kmart one for 3 years for another room. Works very wellBought first and asked later BUT I'm not convinced this is value vs the arlec or kmart (etc) linked above? It's only 1200w too whilst arlec is 1500 and kmart 2400.
https://www.kmart.com.au/product/11-fin-oil-heater/2903324
https://www.bunnings.com.au/arlec-2400w-11-fin-oil-column-he…I guess do you need to run it at 2400w and perceived quality of the brand. I've a delonghi 2400w oil heater and run it at half power, so 1200w like this. Happy with it. Was considering getting thus for another small room.
depends on size of room, how cold it is, insulated roof, ceiling etc.
1200w is fine for my bedroom, but in lounge/kitchen area 1200w on cold nights can't keep room temperature stable. btw I use a 2400w fan heater to help room get up to temperature as it does it fast, then turn it off and use oil heater.I am in qld, so minimal heater use. If I lived in Victoria be using reverse cycle aircon. I do not like fan noise so prefer oil.
I have one of these 1500w. Very good heater. More than enough for a medium sized room and I don't even have to go all the way. The room gets so warm in 1-2 hours that I need to turn it off. I had bought a Heller before this one. Returned it within a week. Spent double on this but it's well worth it.
panel heaters are better
Why?
Aside from a heat pump - aka a reverse cycle A/C unit, every heater will basically convert electrical energy into heat on a 1:1 basis. A few will be even worse, e.g. fan heaters, as they will spend a tiny amount of that energy moving air and creating noise (in simple terms).
Fan heaters etc have their place for purely localised heat but for overall room heat go A/C if possible…
I recently bought a micathermic arlec heater from bunnings. I am very happy with it, heats the room ok on 1200w (half speed).
What do you guys think about micathermic tech?
I've never heard of this technology but I had a quick look on the Bunnings website and it looks interesting
This is my second micathermic heater, the last one I got just when the technology first came out maybe 10 years ago.
This Arlec one is even better, I suppose they have refined the tech a little. I believe it is 20 per cent radiant and 80 per cent convection. No fans so less energy that way.
I am more than happy with it, I do not understand why more people do not use micathermic hence why I asked what you guys thought of it….
Perhaps the word is not out because it is still relatively new tech…
agreed, had a micathermic for near 10 years. It's great, heats up fast, light and easy to move between rooms.
Have just been looking around for a smaller one and surprised how few micathermic options are around.
Saw that and considered buying just for fun. I've watched some YouTube videos on oil Vs micathermic Vs etc and turned out mica was best. Best here meant brought the room up to desired heat faster than the other types. While power used etc was all the same, reviewer claimed mica best as preferred room temp achieved in shortest time. But, who knows. I might grab one for fun still.
I've had 2 of the big ones since I was in the UK and are now 8yrs old these work great and good quality.
Anyone received theirs yet? Mine's supposedly arriving "today by 8PM" but it hasn't even shipped yet.
Update: Just got an email from Amazon
We’re writing to let you know that the following items have been unexpectedly delayed:
"De'Longhi Dragon 4, Portable Oil Column Heater, 1200W, TRD41200MT, White"
Estimated arrival date: 15/06/2020 - 23/06/2020My order got cancelled by Amazon.
Sorry to hear :(. Hope mine doesn't!
Aren't these heaters $50 - $80 at Kmart/Target?
https://www.kmart.com.au/product/11-fin-oil-heater/2903324