Full Time to Casual

Limegreen on 20/05/2020 - 17:02

I have been with a company since September 2017 (casual) gone from casual to full time July 2019.
With the instability of my work during COVID i have been looking for other roles with success i have found a new role won't start till mid june. Was stood down in march.

I do have a few questions that i couldn't find answers to with this climate.

If i go from full time to casual (as i want to keep this as a casual role along with my new full time job) am i still eligible for job keeper with this company?

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Comments

  • netjock on 20/05/2020 - 17:19

    If you are getting JobKeeper right now you are tied to that company. You can get a second job, just don't fill out forms for JobKeeper with new company (you shouldn't qualify but with JobKeeper being self certified I have heard and seen some seriously dodgy stuff happening).

    • AirbusA389 on 20/05/2020 - 18:03

      pretty sure the centrelink artificial "intelligence" will perform magical calculations and catch up with those people soon… with the wrong calculations.

      i reckon one is guilty until he/she can prove that that invisible machinery did its sums wrong. Good luck.

      as much as i am jealous of those who dont have to work to get $1500 per week, i think it's simpler for me to avoid getting into trouble with that (profanity) artificial intelligence.

      • netjock on 20/05/2020 - 18:33

        JobKeeper is administered by ATO. JobSeeker by Centerlink (maybe Services Australia, I haven't been to one for ages and don't want to be there).

        They might get found out but by that time they've taken the money.

        • AirbusA389 on 20/05/2020 - 22:17

          our fiendly ATO has also been using artificial "intelligence" to inspect our declared expenses.. since everything is "intelligent"…

          • netjock on 21/05/2020 - 00:26

            @AirbusA389: LOL you think ATO can put AI together for JobKeeper in 4 weeks? Do you have any idea how long it took for the ATO get to the current intelligent inspection of declared expenses? It isn't even that intelligent.

            It is boxes filled in by the tax payer, sum of all expenses divided by income to get a % then taking the top x% and sending out a warning letter then selecting a sample to do an audit. Could do the math on Excel 98.

  • spackbace on 20/05/2020 - 17:21
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    The sooner the government gets rid of Jobseeker/Keeper, the better.

    So you'll have secured a full-time job, whilst working a casual job, and want handouts from the government?

    Awesome /s

    • salmon123 on 20/05/2020 - 17:29
      -1

      The sooner the government gets rid of Jobseeker/Keeper

      I don't think they're getting rid of Jobseeker. It was previously called "New Start", but yes, they should tighten up the eligibility requirements.

      • spackbace on 20/05/2020 - 17:52
        -2

        It was previously called "New Start",

        And was a lower $ amount, and encouraged people to apply for jobs

        • SD2310 on 20/05/2020 - 18:09
          +1

          It was below poverty level

          • spackbace on 20/05/2020 - 18:10
            -1

            @SD2310:

            and encouraged people to apply for jobs

            • SD2310 on 20/05/2020 - 18:11

              @spackbace: The economy is designed to have 5% of people unemployed at "full employment" so punishing those who are unfortunate enough to be in that percentage makes no sense

              • spackbace on 20/05/2020 - 18:12
                +1

                @SD2310: Fair enough, you can think that's where your tax dollars are best spent, I believe mine are better spend elsewhere.

                • netjock on 20/05/2020 - 18:48

                  @spackbace: Even if 1.7m people get onto JobSeeker it is $61.8bn for a whole year.

                  Australian government total revenue 2018/19: $459bn link

                  In 2016–17, the Australian Government estimates that it will spend around $158.6 billion on social security and welfare, and around $191.8 billion in 2019–20. link

                  Before COVID19 the unemployment rate was about 0.7m ($25bn) ( link

                  You might have a point but JobSeeker isn't our biggest problem.

              • netjock on 20/05/2020 - 18:35

                @SD2310: 5% unemployed is the ones who worked no hours, you work 1hr and you are not considered unemployed. There is a lot of people who struggle for enough hours (and money).

            • Quantumcat on 21/05/2020 - 21:20

              @spackbace: Not really. When you can't afford to eat meat so are badly anemic and tired all the time and are worried every week being able to make your rent, can't afford nice clothes to go to interviews in or a computer to write job applications on - not very easy to look for jobs

  • CheapskateQueen on 20/05/2020 - 21:33

    you are not eligible for job keeper with your casual employer if you have another permanent job

  • WreckTangle on 20/05/2020 - 21:48

    Careful, the robodebt machine will come looking…

  • Nice one baby on 21/05/2020 - 00:01

    You won't be eligible if you organise for your job to be casual.

    Keep it as full time until the stooddown job starts again and then organise with them to go casual. You will continue and be entitled to get paid jobkeeper that way.

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