My employer has applied for the jobkeeper program and now sent out letters to employees as options to be nominated to get it. What happens if some of us don't fill in that employee nomination notice. Currently we are all still working fulltime, but the company must fall in the reduced income of 30%. What should I do?
JobKeeper Employee Nomination Notice
Melb69 on 16/04/2020 - 13:03
Last edited 16/04/2020 - 19:53
Last edited 16/04/2020 - 19:53
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They said it was up to the employee not the company which I don't think is correct.
I am on a same boat. I am currently working full time and asked to fill the form. but i lost my other part time job. I wanted to get jobkeeper from my part time job and continue working this full time job. Lets see ehatthis full time guy will do. Not filling the form atm.
Have you lost the other part time job or were you stood down? If you've lost it they probably won't qualify (if you didn't have the first job it would assume you'd go on jobseeker).
If you were stood down from the 2nd job, you may be able to choose, but the primary job may be able to stand you down without pay if they can't afford to keep you on. You may be able to use leave instead, but I don't think that's preferable.
I havent lost it only stood off. full time is not affected at all. so leaning towards part time.
From the ATO site, it looks like you can choose the employer you apply for (provided they apply for you), however as mentioned you may run the risk of the FT job standing you down if they can't afford to keep you at full wage.
You can only get jobkeeper from your primary employer, generally the one you claim the tax free threshold through.
Fill in the notice and let them decide if you qualify. I don't see any negatives in applying for it. If they don't qualify they still have to pay you for what you work.
If they qualify, you still get paid for whatever you work, it's just they get reimbursed by the government to the tune of $1500/fn. If you happen to earn less than $1500 a fortnight then you still get paid the $1500. If you get stood down, they still pay you the $1500
Just seem ass about. It should just be an employer thing to do the paperwork. They are the ones asking for help. Why is the employer involved for the application.
It's about creating a paper trail for accountability.
They (the government) want to make sure the money is going where it is supposed to. I imagine there would be employers that submit the request thinking that they can pocket the money, while telling employees that they don't qualify and to use annual leave.
This is a way of 1) attempting to alert employees that the employer is claiming the allowance and 2) alerting the employer that they are paying attention (in case they try to fill it out on your behalf).
This^^!
My employer has stripped only a part of the business (20 or so out of 500 employees) including myself off 20% pay whilst stating that they are not eligible for Job Keeper, for which we are protesting in order to understand why? This.. on top of making us work 3 days a week and use up 2 days annual leave.
I had concerns that my employer might do the same without telling us. I am glad to know that employees need to autorize the employer to include them for the job keeper grant!
Oh damn, you have to fill in some paperwork to get some money! I'm going to start you a GoFundMe to cover your suffering.
Yes, fill in this form for your primary employment source. This is just a formality that makes sure your eligible and are not claiming from any other employers. It's a win-win if your employer gets it. If you don't sign this, they may just stand you down until you run out of annual leave, then you go into unpaid leave. At that point, you will have to go and get Jobseeker for your self.
Trust me, I've just gone through being stood down, stood up, coerced into accepting 30% less pay (which I didn't agree to), now I'm back to normal and hoping my employer will get jobkeeper. If they don't get it, I'm redundant and on jobseeker.
Good luck!
Thanks. How you have explained it makes sense. Will sort out paperwork. Fingers crossed we get it and am employed longer than the 6 months.
Trust me, when I was stood down I applied for jobseeker and it was 3.5hrs on the phone to Centrelink. Much easier to sign that form! haha. My employer has tried some sneaky things in the past few weeks, so I can recommend brushing up on the fair work act 2009, the small business fair dismissal code, your specific award, your individual contract and fair work website.
Like what have they tried to do?
@Melb69: When they stood the team down, they wanted us to come back and do ad-hoc casual work here and there but we are all full time. Then they told us we can't come back to work unless we sign an agreement to do 100% hours at 70% pay.
From ATO website:
Send your eligible employees the JobKeeper Employee Nomination Notice to complete and return to you. Confirm with eligible employees that they agree to you being the primary employer to receive JobKeeper payments.
Keep the Employee Nomination Form on file for five years.fill it out and hand it back, simple.
is it just the form all it asks is if you are a resident, not claiming other crap, were employed at 1/3 etc.
Sending to employer now. Thanks all. The company seems to be doing alright at the moment and if the government is helping out its a win win for our company.
Take a photo of the filled-in form. Every page, clearly. Sometimes things go missing, and this way you have proof that you filled it in and submitted it.
Done
i believe you dont have to do it as you will be sending via email and it will just sit there nicely.
"what did your employer say when you asked them?"