with Australian fuel reserves not at the APEC recommended levels and generally at 30 days rather 90 days
is it worth storing fuel?
how much fuel do you have in storage?
how do you store it?
Storing Fuel Does Anyone Do It? and How Are You Doing It?
Archi on 09/03/2020 - 13:20
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I concur, we have a 1000lt tank (with 24v electric pump and "bowser" type handle) we fork onto the back of the ute, fill up at a good price (when we can) and use for our machinery.
makes sense. I have enough to run a generator for about 2 weeks but never really thought of storing for our ute as we don't drive it often.
Wow. I have not dare load my tray over the recommended 600ish kg capacity.
You, sir, live life on the edge.
Could be a one ton rodeo (or equivalent).
Oh man, please not this type of questions…We don't want another round of panic buying lol….
Saudi Arabia is disappointed in the lack of panic buying of petrol.
Thats because China is sleeping and not driving.
Can't drive if your only exit from your home has been welded shut on the dear leader's orders.
Yeah I just dug a hole in the backyard and pumped it in there. Just chuck a tarp over the top of the hole and weigh it down with a few broken bricks/tiles.
I have about 10,000 litres stored this way.
She'll be right mate
You were lucky to have a hole! I had to store mine in a paper bag in a septic tank. Used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down the mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week.
You got bread?!
Luxury!
You try telling people that today, and they won't believe you.
no
if I store too much fuel the US will invade my property
/s
If you're a middle aged white guy you should be fine.
Only if you refuse to price your fuel in US dollars.
It's the ultimate US free market hypocrisy: use our currency or we'll commit war crimes against you.
I store mine in my toilet rolls
Is that like some home made hand sanitizer wipes you've got going there?
it will surely sanitise your bottom
Ive got a 2x 20 ltr jerry cans in the shed for my diesel car. Might get another. Containers were $20 each at bunnings. I think its prudent.
Why? As its cheap.
No
Non
Not Applicable to me. 20Ltr jerry cans if you must.If you run out of fuel what happens?
No point storing for shortage situations IMO. No fuel, get a bus or ride a bike - or stay home and blame the shortage.
Not an option for a lot of people.
Funny how many have no idea others live in different environments.
There is always options. Hoarding at home does not help the bigger picture. It puts even more pressure on supply.
Just have a look how stupid the toilet paper supply is at present. There is plenty to go around if you continue to buy your normal quantities.
Honestly though, how many people in this thread do you really think have absolutely zero other options to get to work/shops/doctors. Obviously there are people living it remote areas that have to drive but they are by far in the minority.
No-one is forgetting about rural areas, they just know that majority of people are not in that situation.
I don't think the top comment is implying semi-rural and rural area people cycle to town…
Obviously people living an 30min+ drive from the nearest town can't just jump on a bus or bike, but considering 89% of our
population lives in urban areas, then the top comment applies to a huge majority of the people in this thread.My parent's live in a semi-rural area, and if I tried to tell them they could cycle to the shops to get food then they'd probably laugh at me. But if the worst happened it would be totally doable for them, with probably an 90min+ round trip, but doable if necessary. Most people wouldn't really think walking and cycling are possibilities because the car culture is so ingrained to our society because they are just too used to getting everywhere as fast as possible, anything that would take a bit more time and requires some physical effort seems crazy to them.
Good point OP, I need fuel to make sure I can transport my hoard of toilet paper from the supermarkets.
I store it in giant tanks on properties that I call Caltex, BP, Shell and Mobil
me too i store at similar places. they ensure good standards safety and compliance.
We all wish both 91 and 95 tanks run out everyday at one of the 7/11 Mobil then everyone teleports there.
You are aware that you need to store flammable goods in a compliant flammable liquids storage cupboard right? Any accident you're toast both literally and legally.
Look forward to increase in house fire from dumbarses stocking TP and Fuel.
compliant flammable liquids storage cupboard right
I didn't know this, is there a threshold where if you store over a certain amount then you need said cupboard?
I have 3x 20lt approved fuel storage cans at the moment, stored in the garage on a metal shelf.
garage is detached from house where the TP is stored if you were wondering.
In industry there are strict limits on flammable solvent load per square meter also compliant flammable liquid storage areas. Not sure how how your councils operate.
Either way dumb idea, fuel prices are crashing
lol @ buying before the fuel crash!
Not aware, can you point to the regulation on this?
I have a neighbor with a classic car collection who stores large quantities of fuel in red plastic fuel containers stored in open floor to ceiling racks lining the walls of his multiple garages.
I suppose the fuel is leaded or lead substitute mix. I have wondered if this is a safe / compliant way to store fuel as the garages are below the living areas of the house the resultant fire risk would be deadly, especially as he is mobility restricted.
Accident waiting to happen in hot days and forgotten canisters.
Local council will know but I'm mainly familiar with workplace flammable storage, your state OHS office should have details on domestic storage. I know with workplaces, not only storage but fire escape, total volume and fire suppression systems required. Walk into a modern garage, little fuel onsite.
https://www.worksafe.qld.gov.au/injury-prevention-safety/haz…
You might want to check your home and contents insurance fine print if storing fuel. Just saying…
Yea it says specifically over 15.37 litres is prohibited. What does yours say?
I went looking in my PDS. Couldn't find anything. Searches for fuel, petrol and flammable.
Yip that extra .37 litres makes all the difference.
I used to keep 20-40L of 98 to beat the fuel cycle, it was easy with the 7/11 app but once I bought a second hand Nissan Leaf, my petrol car doesn't get used except when I take it for a drive once a month because I don't want it to just sit there. It's nice to be able to plug in at home without having to touch the dirty fuel bowser/play around with fuel.
This is where it’s at. I have no fuel stored at all at home (unless you count LPG for BBQ). Only what is in the vehicle tanks. All garden equipment is battery electric, fuel is stored in a big ball in the sky.
Vehicles will be electric too when we can afford them, to pricey just yet.
Yea great, I’ll mow the back paddock with a battery mower and cultivate my turnip patch with a solar powered hand mixer.
Electric ride on mowers are starting to appear.
wow, i didn't know we could store fuel in the sky
where do you think all our natural gas/methane goes?
Good luck in a multi day blackout.
I'm prepared for that but are you? :P
oh found this answer
They vary from state to state. In NSW, five litres is the most you’re allowed to store inside a dwelling.Twenty-five litres is the maximum allowed in an attached garage … provided there’s a fire-rated wall between it and the house. You’re allowed to store up to 100 litres in a shed or outdoors – at least one metre away from other dwellings.
And like 200l and you’ll need a dangerous good licence.
Could you post the link where you found this please?
Assuming there is exceptions for storing it in the plastic tank under the back of most people's vehicles…?
As people could quite easily have 300L stored IN their house with the attached Garages most people have these days.
How else do I have petrol baths?
Obviously 5 is not enough!
When big fuel discounts were available on random days (15+c/litre) I used to keep several jerry cans full in my shed and use it when prices were up.
Nowadays local servos have stopped big discounts so I don't bother.
Petrol has a shelf life of approx 6 months, diesel 6 - 12 months without using a stabiliser before it 'goes off'.
This rule doesn't apply to Daryl on The Walking Dead. His bike keeps on riding
And those Hyundai cars (I haven't watched the show for many years so they might have changed sponsors).
I store 180days worth.
Dont trust the government
I store 270 days worth.
Don't trust the coast guard.Touche
I store 360 days worth.
Don't trust the US Military.720 days worth……
Don't trust the alien reptilian overlords
I store 14 days worth. I don't trust the guys who set the prices.
Interestingly, the less fuel is stored together, the quicker it will go stale. A Jerry can will go stale very quickly.
In the form of a bicycle.
I filled the bathtub.
House doesn't smell great.
Please don't store more than ~20L in the city or suburbs. Your property will be a massive fire hazard.
So only fill your tank to 1/4 full.
There is a large difference between refueling your car, which is purpose designed to carry and transfer 100L or even more of fuel and protect it from spills, impacts, sparks, small fires, etc, and storing fuel on your property in some container.
Joe Random storing 200L in a barrel or multiple 20L containers in the garage may well regret it one day. That's assuming the person storing the liquid uses approved containers specifically designed for the purpose. A big assumption.
I really don't know of anybody who goes around storing fuel is milk containers and the like as you are suggesting…
As far as a fire hazard goes I don't see a whole heap of difference from the plastic tank under your vehicle to a plastic approved Jerry can in which most normal people would store fuel.
@Binchicken22: I've watched someone try to fill a 2L cordial bottle with petrol at a service station. You'll be surprised what some people think is safe. I didn't suggest people store petrol in milk containers. Perhaps you could quote where I did.
Try to knock over the fuel tank in your car. Now try to knock over a 20L jerry can.
@Cluster: I saw carts selling petrol from 2L glass bottles in Bali for motorbikes. Goes to show how "carefree" island life can be.
this post reminds me of "Mad Max" movie lol
Recently I started to store fuel in bulk because as a family of 6, we drive to Shopping Centre at least few times a day to use toilet as there is no toilet paper in the house and none at any store.
at current rate, fuel will be cheaper than TP.
I wish we all could wash our bums with fuel instead of toilet paper. And it’s anti-bacterial too.
can you buy a bum gun (aka toilet hose aka Bidet shower)? They are easy to fit and usually pretty cheap and work well.
Then you will have minimal toilet paper needs.
Do you happen to have lots of toilet paper in your garage too? 😂
I always have a lot of toilet paper in the garage along with tissues and paper towels. I have a family of 6, cant expect me to go out every week to buy a pack when I need it
I store fuel, mostly to take advantage of the low fuel cycle price. We rent one of our cars out on a car sharing service that includes a fuel cost to the renter but is often not high enough to cover our costs if fuel prices are as crazy as they have been.
The lower the stored fuel cost, the higher our margin when the car is rented 😊
Next to my years supply of toilet paper…where else would you store it?
If you're a Cash poor and Time rich handy-man, buy a 19mm petrol resistant siphon and sufficient Jerry cans to clip the top off the price cycle. A Woolworths Rewards card can save 4c/litre and a discounted Woolworths eGift card from CASHREWARDS saves another 5% at Caltex-Wools participating service stations, and a 150 litre purchase gives you $6 of "free" milk…
No. Just work for 15mins.
From what I've heard it's closer to 2wks of "normal use", but in case of panic buying I can imagine a lot of people rushing to stations and draining the reserves in a few days.
I've already switched to everything electric + solar, so I'm out of this game.
I don't think I'd ever risk having any larger amount of combustible liquid anywhere close my property. One small mistake, or vandalism, or kids, or animals, or natural disaster, and I probably wouldn't like those kinds of fireworks.Obviously everyone has a different risk exposure profile, but there doesn’t seem to be hundreds of house fires that originate in the garage. I’d guess that most of the garages in Aus have at least 5l of fuel in them to run mowers etc yet we don’t have an epidemic of house fires accelerated by stored fuel.
Fuel probably going to get cheaper if the country ends up in lockdown like Italy. Not many cars on the road.
with that question, I can easily guess where ur from.
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No. Only farmers generally bother to do this, and really that's only due to bulk diesel discounts for all the machinery