Ryobi One+ Non-Genuine Chargers and Batteries

blackfrancis75 on 23/02/2020 - 12:00

I have been slowly, inexorably, pulled into the Ryobi One+ 18v tool ecosystem, most recently purchasing the cordless mower that uses two battery packs simultaneously. So, I'm asking:

  1. Has anyone purchased a non-genuine 18v charger that works with the Ryobi 18v One+ battery packs and can vouch for their performance?
    e.g.
    https://www.ebay.com.au/i/163939727972

  2. This has been asked before but not answered: Has anyone found a non-genuine 18v battery pack that works reasonably.
    e.g.
    https://www.wish.com/product/5daf04f1b120b317cc2ea90a

Home & Garden 18V RYOBI

Comments

  • OrderInWrongWordsThe on 23/02/2020 - 12:26
    +1

    I've been using the following batteries for a little while without issue. They fit perfectly and have operated all my tools without any noticeable loss of performance. Can't comment on them long term and haven't done a head to to verify capacity but I have no regrets.

    Energup 2Pack P108 Lithium Battery 18V 5000mAh with Recharge Indicator for Ryobi 18-Volt ONE+ Tool P102 P103 P104 P105 P107 P108 P122 https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B078GJNYNQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i…

  • SBOB on 23/02/2020 - 12:36

    Has anyone purchased a non-genuine 18v charger that works with the Ryobi 18v One+ battery packs

    you should be able to pick up a genuine one less than that
    just wait for someone to sell one they got in a kit they dont need (which reminds me i have one sitting in the garage that i still need to offload to gumtree)

  • websterp on 23/02/2020 - 12:58
    +1

    In my opinion non-genuine batteries and chargers are Ok, but you usually get what you pay for like with everything else. In most cases they don't have adequate protection circuitry and/or balance charging feature reducing the lifetime of the batteries significantly. Also the batteries used are of questionable origin and some are known to use fake LG and Samsung 18650s in order to create a false impression that they are better/comparable to the OEM batteries. There are videos on youtube comparing these batteries and some even feature teardowns showing the internal circuit boards and batteries used.

    I would agree with the previous poster and stay on the lookout for discounted battery+charger kit offers at Bunnings (some of these were already posted on OzBargain) or Gumtree would be a great source to score great deal on brand new genuine batteries as people tend to sell kit batteries they do not need (for example this one. Bunnings currently are selling this pack for $199 and you can have it for less than $155 (negotiable)

    • D C on 23/02/2020 - 16:13

      They also tend to cheap out on the plastic, so more likely to crack if you drop it.

    • blackfrancis75 on 23/02/2020 - 20:18

      I can accept that a $20 battery + $20 charger won't last as long as the $199 (discounted to $155) genuine ones.
      My question is more along the lines of : are the genuine ones worth the
      (160/40) = 4 times more than non-genuine?

      • D C on 27/02/2020 - 18:34

        If the capacity of the knock-off is genuine (and it might be) and it's 1/4 of the price, then I'd say it's fine for a lawnmower and typical household use.

        The only downside is the pack might not be able to supply as much amperage as the genuine. Or it can but the run time is reduced eg 25 minutes rather than the expected 30 vs 60 for the real one.

        I once brought a very cheap laptop battery because I wanted the cells (only needed 1000mAh or so). The pack said the cells were 2200, the cells said 1800, and I tested at 1300. Everyone on that supply chain was telling porkies.

        All you can do is check the recent reviews.

    • Euphemistic on 25/02/2020 - 12:19

      Second keeping an eye on Bunnings for runout models. Last week I saw like hedge trimmer and pole saw for less than half price. $115 including a 2ah battery and charger. Should have bought one. Could always sell the skin and keep charger and battery.

  • websterp on 23/02/2020 - 20:59

    Well I have both genuine and aftermarket batteries for my Makita power tools. And what I'm going to mention here is the most extreme case but I'm a firm believer of Murphy's Law.

    Needless to say when handled/charged improperly lithium batteries could turn into dynamite sticks. And most of these cheap Chinese batteries have no adequate charge protection and no name batteries inside and the circuit board was probably designed by some fresh uni graduate in 2 days and they would be using whatever the batteries and components that was available on the day at the electronic component wholesalers and that would be the extent of R&D that went into it.

    So being marketed to the DIY crowd you probably leave th batteries to charge unattended. I'll leave the rest to your imagination.

  • Sp76 on 25/02/2020 - 10:09

    Which Ryobi mower do you have that uses 2 batteries? I am desperately looking for a 36V brushless mower. I know Ryobi does the 36V range, but using my existing one+ batteries would be an advantage. I have 1, 5Ah, non ryobi battery. Seems Ok. Pretty hard to do a side by side comparison.

  • Euphemistic on 25/02/2020 - 12:17
    +1

    Just look out on gumtree and get a genuine charge. Chargers pop up all the time. I’ve sold about 4 after buying ‘kits’ second hand.

    As for batteries, non genuine are often repacked using substandard cells and probably won’t last as long as they should. May also have substandard battery management circuits. Probably fine for a single battery item, but I would not be keen to put one side by side with a god battery in the same tool. Its asking for uneven current draw which probably isn’t good for tool or battery.

  • ialam99 on 24/05/2020 - 20:16

    rather then buying knock off batteries, i would rather get a ozito or infinity (Aldi) battery (both currently available on special for $39 for a 4ah battery) and buy a plastic converter to convert to a ryobi (available via ebay and gumtree). At least you'll know the capacity will be genuine and you'll be covered by warranty.

  • codaroma on 27/11/2020 - 14:23

    There are also these converters…
    https://badaptor.com/

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