Rate My 3900x Build

[Deactivated] on 15/02/2020 - 22:19
Last edited 17/02/2020 - 13:22 by 1 other user

Hi all,

I'm building a workstation build to do bit of work/personal number crunching. Analysing big data files 10gb+. So more ram/processing power the better. Don't need great GPU or RGB lol. Budget ~2000

THis is what I am thinking of:
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kCd3gJ

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($765.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($312.40 @ Newegg Australia)
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($229.00 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($145.97 @ Amazon Australia)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 570 4 GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($179.00 @ Austin Computers)
Case: Thermaltake V200 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($134.20 @ Newegg Australia)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.00 @ Austin Computers)
Total: $1904.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-15 22:17 AEDT+1100

Any suggestions. (Although withing budged would always like to get things as cheap as possible… lol)

Thanks
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Comments

  • Diji1 on 15/02/2020 - 22:36
    +1

    You don't have a cooler. I would suggest Noctua NH-D15 ~$89 is a good price. Note the height requirements and that the fans may be higher than the tower if RAM gets in the way. It might mean changing cases

    If the case has spare fan slots you should fill them. Noctua fans are about the quietest for a given performance level.

    You might want a spinning disk for backups.

    • [Deactivated] on 15/02/2020 - 22:37

      Thanks.
      Was going to try wrath prism and upgrade if it was too noisy
      Spinning disk is great suggestions.

      • AlienC on 16/02/2020 - 01:18

        If you are dealing with large amounts of data and need like 8TB of storage the external hard drives you can find from Amazon are great at under $240 AUD.

        Excellent bang for buck for just simple storage needs.

        Other users have said 3600MHZ ram for Ryzen 3000 series which yours is top of the line of so maybe that would be a nice factor to put in.

        Imho the PSU is fine unless you want a beefier GPU which you said you don't so just mechanical hard drive and maybe faster frequency ram.

        I would personally get a cheaper case unless looks are a big factor for you for me it just holds the bits so getting the cheapest case that allows everything to fit in nicely and not too tightly is ideal for me.

        80+ Gold PSU is fine honestly.

    • [Deactivated] on 15/02/2020 - 22:49

      Where did u find d15 for that price btw?

  • garetz on 15/02/2020 - 23:01

    I'm not a fan of the TUF range.

    • JacobHarvey on 16/02/2020 - 10:32

      A lot of the TUF products have been overpriced and/or junk lately. However that particular model of TUF X570 motherboard has been reviewed very well and is a good option if they need onboard Wi-Fi in that price range

  • [Deactivated] on 15/02/2020 - 23:04

    Graphics card seems grossly inadequate given what's under the hood.

    • [Deactivated] on 16/02/2020 - 07:08

      I might do some GPU intensive work in second half of the year in which case rtx 2080ti would be the go to card or i could use cloud computing.

      Didn't want to spend too much on mid range gpu and then need buy another one later

      • [Deactivated] on 16/02/2020 - 10:35

        So make sure you provision a decent power supply for the upgrade.

  • holoz0r on 15/02/2020 - 23:09

    3600MHZ ram for Ryzen 3000 series.

  • Aarent on 16/02/2020 - 00:12

    i would get a better PSU TBH, like a seasonic or a corsair. other then that, the rest is fine.

  • 898agm on 16/02/2020 - 00:21

    Agreed-go for a better PSU!

  • conza on 16/02/2020 - 01:47
    +1

    For motherboard, all the gigabyte aorus have done well on x570, this is cheaper and much much better

    https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/nHxbt6/gigabyte-x570-aor…

    Psu, without a power hungry gpu or other requirements, go 80+ gold and a known manufacturer

    https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/w4PKHx/silverstone-essen…

    gpu, think you're about right, consider an rx 580 as well, 10-15% more performance (not sure of your applications), this one seems to be a good deal but costs more than the rx 570 you chose

    https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/XYDzK8/asus-radeon-rx-58…

    case is way overpriced, save some dough, eg. of you can fit it in budget, look for something with front airflow, 1-2 fans, any size will be fine, this has 1 so will pull heat out the back in stock config, consider intake to avoid dust / capture it in a filter (in front)

    https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/mJ6BD3/cooler-master-cas…

    managed 64gb ram and an ok cooler close to budget
    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xB3KK4

  • garetz on 16/02/2020 - 06:14

    https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/NnKC4n

    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor
    Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler
    Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard
    Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory
    Samsung 970 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
    Asus Radeon RX 5700 8 GB STRIX Gaming OC Video Card
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro M TG ATX Mid Tower Case
    SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Titanium 650 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

    LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor

    Total: $3333.92

    This is the build i would make, removing the screen its about $2550
    You can save by using ebays 20% off sales, and possibly getting the power supply and video card 2nd hand.

    • [Deactivated] on 16/02/2020 - 06:46

      Thanks. Trying to use some ebay giftcards.

      Price jacking is making it really hard to find any parts cheaper on ebay.

  • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 16/02/2020 - 11:08
    +1

    3600MHZ or higher RAM.
    Replace PSU with Corsair. Get a 750W if you plan on 2080ti later. Better to have some headroom.

    Everything else looks great.

    • [Deactivated] on 16/02/2020 - 11:35
      +1

      thanks.

      3600mhz ram with c16 timing gets pretty expensive which is why I thought 3200mhz is ok. From what i read the current ryzen series are not as particular about RAM as its predecessors.

      RE:PSU - Seems to be a common message from others aswell. Going to go with RM750X. Not worth trying to save $50 on PSU.

      • Aarent on 16/02/2020 - 13:05

        Your right, predecessors preferred faster memory, i myself has 32gb corsair, 3200mhgz @CL16 i think. which i think is fine enough.

  • Starayo on 16/02/2020 - 12:15
    +2

    FYI, if you end up going with the X570 TUF Plus Wifi motherboard - I have one, it runs well and I have no issues with it now, but I ran into an issue when setting it up that's easier to deal with if you know beforehand. You need to load the wifi driver during windows installation, otherwise you'll be stuck with bluescreens on booting and have to do some (profanity) with disabling networking in bios while you fix it. This post on reddit deals with it.

  • conza on 16/02/2020 - 15:27
    +1

    Hmm, I thought I had seen the X570 TUF board before, and I had.

    Good video, it has my choice (Aorus Elite) and your currently selected board (TUF Wifi), with 2 other boards in a similar price range.

    ASUS X570 TUF @2:54, Gigabyte Aorus Elite @6:57, Results @8:38

    TL;DW. @9:38 - Stock settings Aorus comes first in VRM temps running at 218W at 1.24v it scores a 61C HWInfo / 57C thermal probe reading so it doesn't run the CPU as hard but has much superior temperatures, where as the TUF comes second running at 260W at 1.356v, no HWInfo temp reported / 68C thermal probe, 11C warmer than the Aorus, so it runs the 3900X harder and that heats up its VRM more. It does have the highest power draw stock, and isn't the hottest though, so a fair start. Steve the presenter comments the TUF "Peaking at 73 degrees is a great result here, and a big improvement over the Asrock Steel legend, and several tiers better than the MSI Gaming Edge" - Definitely don't get the MSI board. "Both the Gigabyte and Asus boards scored the same result in Cinebench R20 [A CPU test program], so the lower voltage wasn't negatively impacting performance [in his test].".

    @12:01 "Let's see how these boards compare when running at 1.4v with the 3900X running an all core of 4.3GHz". Apples to apples comparison.

    @12:10 ASUS TUF is now ahead reporting 73C thermal probe temp vs the Gigabyte's at 81C. Technically it seems the TUF board runs slightly less volts at 1.392V vs the Aorus at 1.404, but this seems within margin of error.

    @15:33 "I'd personally only be looking at the ASUS TUF Gaming or the Gigabyte Aorus Elite."

    He goes on to say that you shouldn't have brand loyalty and should instead re-assess each offering for a new chipset and price, which I'll admit before I rewatched this video I did simply pick Gigabyte because I knew it would be very good, and it was, but the video shows the TUF edges it out in an overclocked scenario.

    Bottom line, for a workstation either the Aorus Elite or the TUF Gaming will serve you well, the TUF Gaming seems to be more expensive, it does come with Wifi though, and its out of the box performance (stock, initial results) show that it consumes more power and runs with a higher voltage versus the Aorus Elite. The Aorus on the otherhand is cheaper, consumes 42W less running at a far lower voltage in stock configuration, but if you're overclocking and wanting the maximum performance from both boards, this will be slightly hotter overall.

    Keep us posted with what you pick, I don't think you can really go wrong with either board after seeing these results, here's the video link.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PkZwY9PWM

    • [Deactivated] on 16/02/2020 - 15:52

      Thanks.
      I did watch that video a while ago. Need to have another look. But that was my take home message that aorus elite or tuf wifi were best options at my price point. I opted for tuf for the wifi. Aorus elite not also has a wifi option.

      But I am considering Aorus Pro Wifi?
      https://www.mwave.com.au/product/gigabyte-x570-i-aorus-pro-w…

      Will need to do a bit of reading to see if there is much difference. But so far from what I can see all three boards are pretty comparable.

      EDIT: NVM I was looking mini ITX version of the Pro Wifi

  • [Deactivated] on 16/02/2020 - 15:36

    Thanks for the suggestions so far.

    I've been looking at cases and think I might go for this one. Seems to have good airflow and can fit NH-D15 cooler if I decide wraith prism is too noisy.

    https://www.umart.com.au/Deepcool-Kendomen-TI-Mid-Tower-Case…

    • conza on 16/02/2020 - 21:06
      +1

      Well $70 and 5 fans, seems like a fairly good deal, I'd just make sure the fans are pretty much all intake, maybe 1 exhaust at the back, with 5 fans matters far less how good they are too. If you're going for an awesome cooler like the NH-D15, the CPU will be well looked after.

      • [Deactivated] on 17/02/2020 - 05:08
        +1

        Thinking of noctua u12a as the d15 will very tight fit in the case

        • conza on 17/02/2020 - 07:38

          That is also a great cooler, seems fairly overpriced right now though, seems to be over $150, but near the $120 mark I think it's a very nice solution. Only major concern with big air coolers (in my opinion) is memory compatibility, so just get lower profile memory, 35mm (eg. Corsair Vengeance LPX etc) and it should be fine. Noctua coolers are extremely high quality, so you do get your money's worth, I've used an L9a and an L12S, both are amazing, since your PC isn't a low profile one one of the others will be a better choice, more bang for buck.

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