Question asked and answered. Thank you everyone.
It is reasonable to ask someone to stay away just because of the fear of ncov.
Fear of nCoV Virus in shared house
FromAtoZ on 10/02/2020 - 12:47
Last edited 10/02/2020 - 16:39
Last edited 10/02/2020 - 16:39
Poll Options
- 95No. The housemate should have his room.
- 3Yes. We should split 50/50 cost if he needs to stay somewhere else.
- 5Yes. We should pay 100% cost if he needs to stay somewhere else.
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Thank you for this. I agree with you.
Probably i should ask them to stop reading news ;-)
Maybe sell this little bit of perspective to your parents. The common flu virus kills millions of people each year globally. There's probably equal or ever greater chance of you or your housemate bringing that home from work or the local train. And for the elderly the flu can be just as dangerous, even with a flu jab each year.
While I can follow this line of logic (your tenant is likely to kill you with the flu as with the coronavirus), I'm not convinced that the way to deal with overly cautious/paranoid parents is by telling them of all the other ways they can die lol.
@HighAndDry: Haha fair call.
I guess I was trying to give OP some examples for the "you're being ridiculous" conversation.
During the third phase, lung damage continues to build—which can result in respiratory failure. Even if death doesn’t occur, some patients survive with permanent lung damage. According to the WHO, SARS punched holes in the lungs, giving them “a honeycomb-like appearance”—and these lesions are present in those afflicted by novel coronavirus, too.
These holes are likely created by the immune system’s hyperactive response, which creates scars that both protect and stiffen the lungs.
Yeah, sure sounds like the common flu that people keep comparing this to.
@Zachary: I didn't write that, its from a recent study.
Im sure in the full context people with milder symptoms wont be that bad, but the possibility remains (i assume if youre severe enough for hospital)
@fusion17: HMmm…what if this turns out to be just like the common flu and cold that can never be cured?
Yeah - he's paying for a room and unless you can show it's a realistic fear (it's not, the Philippines have very few cases to date), he's entitled to the room. If your parents want peace of mind (which is that they're asking for), they'll have to pay for it themselves.
Alternative: Your parents move out for 2 weeks if it bothers them so much.
That's a great idea. Time for them to have a holiday locally? Maybe to Tasmania or somewhere not too far away from you?
Put them on a plane or a cruise ship now will be a no-no :-(
Drive to Phillip Island?
+1 for no. Clicked the wrong button
Thanks
My housemate went outside the house yesterday, I'd better quarantine her for the next fortnight!
Your parents are drastically over-reacting. Ask them to stop watching/reading/listening to sensationalist crud.
My housemate went outside the house yesterday, I'd better quarantine her for the next fortnight!
This is not an excuse for stashing women in the basement for two weeks :)
Keep her fed too….don't want her dying on you and releasing the virus as airbourne…
Who's house is it?
You nailed it on the head "thanks to the media" we have out of control FEAR …. which is False Evidence Appearing Real.
After six! weeks there has only been three dead OUTSIDE of China, three!
IF this virus is soooooooooo scary, why haven't more died?
Put things into perspective, in China on average 28,000 people die each and every day. In the six weeks, 900 have died from Coronovirus yet 1.176 million people have died within China in the same period, believe it or not. I am using WHO figures of 7.12 deaths per 1,000 people.
You're seeing different media to me then.
In my world, the media has essentially stopped reporting on coronavirus, it's page 10 news at best!I'm actually hoping this virus is what starts some sort of zombie apocalypse scenario…..oh man would it be a joy to live through one just like you see in the movies!
Evacuate your parents for 14 days instead?
I have thought of that .. hahah ;-) thanks
Where do you live? Drive up/down the nearest coastline to somewhere relaxing :)
Nobody can fairly comment at this stage.
But Philippines has a mere 3 confirmed cases to date. Risk is very low at this stage and may well stay low or reduce further by the time your housemate travels in March.However, China have opened for business again today.
I fear the case count will spike as a result… we will only know in a few weeks time.
Certainly no need to be concerned at this stage and by April, we will have a far clearer picture of whether and how much we should be concerned.Your calm and considered advice has no place in this thread.
There are more cases here in Australia. So maybe the housemate who traveled to the Philippines should kick the others out.
however she did not want him to stay with us until the 14 days pass.
Send your parents away for 14 days instead or you can put them up for somewhere else for 14 days.
The simple fact is, that if anyone is the household is going out and back into the house, they could have been infected. Yours parents popped to the supermarket? Well they could have gotten it there, went out to the RSL for dinner? BAM.
I can see where they are coming from, but its part of the 'renting a room out' gig.
Wash your hands religiously and don't touch your face with your hands.
Unless the housemate has direct contact with someone who has it, it's very unlikely they'll catch it.
There's 14 cases in Australia and 3 in Philippines. Phillipines has more people than Australia.
Logic here dictates that your housemate should be under quarantine only in Philippines from coming from Australia!
Haha that's what I thought
situation might change in April.
But for now, it's totally unreasonable for you to ask your housemate to self quarantine somewhere else. Unless he has direct contact with someone from China in Philippines.and just as orangetrain said, we currently have more cases here than over there.
Why edit and delete the original post? Very selfish and disrespectful of those who took the time to post their feedback. Anyone who wants to look at this thread later should have the benefit of the discussion and viewpoints, not just yourself…
There are currently 5 people living in same house (my partner and I are in mid 30s, my parents are in early 60s, one housemate in late 40s).
Question asked and answered. Thank you everyone.It is reasonable to ask someone to stay away just because of the fear of ncov.
My housemate is going to travel to the Philippines and spend a month over there with his family (departure: mid-March, return: mid-April around Easter). My mother made a comment the other day, that she was very concerned of nCoV transmission, and wanted my housemate to self-quarantine for 14 days after he returns to Australia, however she did not want him to stay with us until the 14 days pass.I understand where my parents come from (thanks to all the media, especially the airborne transmission articles). The virus seems quite dangerous for senior people, and my parents are not so in good health.
However I think it is unreasonable to make this request to my housemate. I tried to explain to my Mum that I am not going to ask my housemate for this because:
- The Gov has not updated travel status for Philippines.
- My housemate pays rent and expects to rest in his room.
- I think it’s unreasonable.
Then, it happened at workplace today. My company uses hot-desks thingy, which every employees can sit anywhere and no one has a fixed desk location. My work group usually sits next to each other, however two colleagues (early 50s, and early 60s) quietly moved to different desk locations today to avoid another colleague just returned from Malaysia (self-quarantine at home for 7 days, first day return to the office).
Now I wonder if I did not measure the situation properly (for my parents), and probably .. should .. ask .. my housemate … ?
Background: housemate has stayed with us for 2.5 years, always pay rent on time.
He probably wanted to hide the embarrassment…..
Either pay 100% or let him have his room.
Update please OP?
There were no survivors
~fin~
That's what I'm thinking.
Although that was Malaysian…
And to think america was the dumbest nation, comes along this thread, lol
i don't think we're too far behind them now, and sadly that gap is closing
what is the basis for your concern?
someone at work complained that i had chinese takeaway for lunch the other day…..yep that's the type of people i work with
I sympathise with your parents but only to a point. It's unreasonable for a person to not be allowed back to their own home that they pay for, based on fear alone. If your housemate was travelling to Wuhan and helping in the hospital there, then probably fair enough. But unless the Phillipines becomes a disaster zone for the virus, it's unreasonable to request him to quarantine not in his own home.
So your parents either either fund it 100% or bad luck IMO.
Alternative: Your parents move out for 2 weeks if it bothers them so much.