Free National Advance Film Screenings of Military Wives @ ShowFilmFirst (Free Membership/Registration Required) & Reel Dialogue

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Free National Advance Film Screenings of Military Wives @ ShowFilmFirst (Free Membership/Registration Required) & Reel Dialogue

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Screenings

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLPBiYXsKPQ

Synopsis

The inspirational story of friendship, love, and support on the home front. A group of women come together as their partners serve in Afghanistan. Together they form the very first military wives choir, helping each other through some of life’s most difficult moments and also becoming a media sensation and global movement in the process. Peter Cattaneo (The Full Monty) directs Oscar® Nominee and BAFTA® Winner Kristin Scott Thomas (Darkest Hour) and BAFTA® Nominee Sharon Horgan (Catastrophe) in this feel good crowd-pleaser.

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INFIDEL on 06/02/2020 - 20:44

-5

Military wives turn to faith, each other in tough times

The inspirational story, brought to us by City Bible Forum…
Should be in Deal Description!

And from ShowfilmsFirst for members (no email for this member)

Rotten Tomatoes 80%
IMDb 66%
- nuts on 06/02/2020 - 21:00
  
  +5
  
  Thoughts and prayers, where have I heard that before…
- CEO Rachel Jake on 06/02/2020 - 21:09
  
  +1
  
  Yeah, couldn't pay me to see this one. But, hey, it'll make some old christians day and they need it what with all those pesky gays, climate scientists and grand children who won't friend them on Facebook.
  - INFIDEL on 06/02/2020 - 21:19
    
    -1
    
    My closest venue is the one offered by City Bible Forum… in the Bible Belt of Brisbane.
    
    ShowfilmsFirst don't offer that cinema.
    
    So if I want to see this film - I also have a choice of audiences to view it with!
  - INFIDEL on 06/02/2020 - 21:47
    
    +1
    
    Irrespective of the involvement of the churches in promoting this movie, this is not personally of interest to me.
    
    Focuses on wives of US military sent to a long drawn out war (that Australia may have better not have been involved in), viewed solely from a US view point. The US perspective on that war & involvement of the churches in areas of government is very different to here.
    - entropysbane on 08/02/2020 - 09:50
      
      -1
      
      This movie would not be something I would be interested in, the blurb seems pretty clear to me.
      I think, Infidel, you need to step back a bit before any more comments in this thread. Relax, have a few beers, then come back and think about how you have reacted to it.
  - ProfessorBargain on 06/02/2020 - 22:19
    
    Nice generalising there, you sound almost like the stereotype you're arbitrarily rallying against.
    
    Though the movie does sound like a living-hell/propaganda-piece.
- tonester on 06/02/2020 - 21:10
  
  +4
  
  IMDb 66%
  
  actually 6.9 based on 66 user ratings :)
  - INFIDEL on 06/02/2020 - 21:14
    
    Correct, 6.9/10.
    Read the 66 reviews number, while quickly adding on phone & was then too late to edit.
  - gilbarc on 06/02/2020 - 22:46
    
    Nice
DU99 on 06/02/2020 - 21:24

+2

saw the trailer yesterday..looks good movie
benchman on 06/02/2020 - 21:46

+1

Thanks OP. Free movie night at the cinemas - best sort of movie!
INFIDEL on 06/02/2020 - 22:04

+9

Still no full disclosure:
(suggested 80min ago)

Deal Link goes to 2 Christian groups Reel Dialogue & City Bible Forum… Not your usual film promoters on OzBargain!

Information about what City Bible Forum does includes… Meet with a team member or in a small group to read the Bible 1:1 to find answers to spiritual issues, explore your questions and deepen your knowledge of God.

And the alternative booking via ShowfilmsFirst requires membership to log in. That may require some to use the Christian group booking, providing their details.

Some might like to be know about that, to make an informed choice!
Always a good idea in any Deal posted!
- tonester on 06/02/2020 - 22:25
  
  added SFF requirement (even though most SFF deals do not, but surely visiting a link provides information?
  - INFIDEL on 06/02/2020 - 22:29
    
    +2
    
    SFF membership requirement is often brought up their Deals.
    Wasn't suggesting needed to be in Title - just in discussion.
    
    As for not listing City Bible Forum. That's not what Deal Posting Guidelines would suggest!
    
    The promoter is mainly City Bible Forum - not listed in the Deal!
    
    City Bible Forum has an agenda different to promoting movies, like in other free movie offers.
    
    Full disclosure is always best.
    - tonester on 06/02/2020 - 22:35
      
      -1
      
      The promoter is mainly City Bible Forum - not listed in the Deal!
      
      Reel Dialogue and Transmission Films would like to invite you to a special screening of Military Wives
      - INFIDEL on 06/02/2020 - 22:47
        
        -1
        
        @tonester: And the much bigger promotion logo above that stating Reel Dialogue and City Bible Forum??
        
        City Bible Forum links to Reel Dialogue as upcoming events for them! There seems a close association & promotion of similar Christian beliefs.
        
        Just do the right thing & disclose the promotion is also by
        City Bible Forum or at least the Deal Link is to a Christian group!
      - INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 01:17
        
        -1
        
        @tonester: Why I gave this Deal a neg vote
        
        After clicking on cinema location you want, Real Dialogues site simply redirects to the web address & logo of the the real promoter / provider - City Bible Forum!
        
        https://citybibleforum.org/civicrm/event/register?reset=1&id=2239
        
        Bookings are made by City Bible Forum! It is listed as their Christian event.
        So it needs to be listed in Deal! (Reported hours ago)
        
        People are giving their personal details to City Bible Forum on their website! Who realised that?
        
        To make out City Bible Forum is not the promoter / providing the booking is farcical & a complete cover up!
        
        This Deal is driving people to sign up on a Christian group website - without making that very clear! That's a terrible trick in any Deal!
        
        On that basis, of lack of transparency / honesty in this Deal (after many requests to make it clear), it requires a neg vote.
        
        tonester on 07/02/2020 - 06:30
        
        @INFIDEL:
        
        https://citybibleforum.org/civicrm/event/register?reset=1&id…
        
        REEL DIALOGUE SCREENING - MILITARY WIVES
        
        Bookings are made by City Bible Forum!
        This Deal is driving people to sign up on a Christian group website - without making that very clear!
        
        Does it matter which hosting or booking service the deal provider uses?
        
        INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 07:37
        
        -1
        
        @tonester: Reel Dialogues is not the Deal provider - City Bible Forum is!!
        
        Why not post the direct link to the Organiser & Deal provider (City Bible Forum) rather than Reel Dialogues promotion of the City Bible Forum Events?
        I've provided the direct link to help you!
        
        blueyez on 07/02/2020 - 09:10
        
        +3
        
        @INFIDEL: It's a deal for a free movie, calm your farm and your agenda
        
        INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 09:19
        
        @blueyez: Just stating the facts, which are not being presented by OP.
        
        blueyez on 07/02/2020 - 09:20
        
        +3
        
        @INFIDEL: OP doesn't have to research the deal. Like many of us we simply received an email for free tickets to a movie and won't really care about anything more than obtaining free tickets in true ozb style
        
        INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 09:24
        
        -1
        
        @blueyez: But I researched the Deal & found issues that weren't disclosed! Suggested to disclose - but that was argued against by OP.
        
        Saying people don't need to know or consider who they are signing up to in this Deal makes no sense - just to get a free movie.
        
        My only agenda is that the facts about the Deal should be provided.
        If this was just a free movie Deal - I wouldn't be commenting. This is more complex than a free movie Deal!!
        
        As long as you don't mind providing your details to City Bible Forum when you click on the Deal Link - go ahead.
        But OP still refuses to disclose that in Deal Description.
        
        Most Ozbargainers usually seem concerned who they provide their details to. So best to disclose!
        But seems you're already on their email list.
        
        These are an event City Bible Forum organised, which may involve more than just the film. We have no details, just they use Events to open discussion about their beliefs.
        
        Otherwise use ShowfilmsFirst. That is just the film.
        
        Either way - enjoy the movie!
        
        tonester on 07/02/2020 - 22:35
        
        +1
        
        @INFIDEL:
        
        Saying people don't need to know or consider who they are signing up to in this Deal makes no sense - just to get a free movie.
        
        Who is saying that?
        
        Why do people need to know or consider?
        
        Why does it make no sense?
        
        :)
        
        INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 22:45
        
        -1
        
        @tonester: You refused to disclose that in this Deal, people are signing up to City Bible Forum without necessarily knowing they've done that.
        
        Signing up at a website they did not expect to be taken to is worrying in a Deal!
- seanbaussie on 06/02/2020 - 22:28
  
  +1
  
  Showfilms first is a free signup so not sure how that might stop people/require them to use Reel dialogue.
  
  BTW, I wonder what Show Films First stand for. Maybe they even get something out of this… What propaganda might they force people into?
  - Jackson on 07/02/2020 - 00:36
    
    +5
    
    Show film first are an organisation that runs marketing campaigns for entertainment companies by showing their films or live shows to members (basically people who have signed up to their website) for free or for booking fee only, so that those people can spread (hopefully good) word of mouth (and maybe social media) advertising so that when the show opens its more popular.
    
    I actually think they have a family decent business model that provides a win for consumers, themselves and the people they contract to (film makers) although kind you I don't know how successful they are at either making money or promoting their clients media, although they have been around for years so they must be doing at least OK.
    
    In case anyone is wondering, the movies and shows are not usually religious in nature. They do seem to more regularly be UK cinema, and generally stuff that your grandma might be interested in (if she is Anglo), although I did get to watch the Gentlemen recently which was a departure from that.
    
    I can't speak for any of the other organisations names, however I believe Transmission is just a film company that helps finance/produce movies.
    - try2bhelpful on 07/02/2020 - 01:07
      
      I’ve been to a few of their screenings and they do tend to favour the Anglo films, particularly nostalgia ones. Generally they are films I probably wouldn’t have considered going to but most of them have been pretty good. I did also see Hidden Figures and Crazy Rich Asians with showfilmfirst, which were both terrific. Not sure why the alignment here but their choice and my choice to avoid.
      - Jackson on 07/02/2020 - 09:11
        
        @try2bhelpful: The alignment probably just comes down to the client (City Bible forums) paying them or coming to some other business agreement.
        
        Even if it isn't a deal where SFF get paid, I don't think there's any issue aside from the fact that in any other SFF deal,your name goes on the SFF mailing list and is used for SFF marketing purposes only. In this case the deal says it's SFF, the main deal link goes elsewhere. That shouldn't happen period. Where are the mods on this?
        
        tonester on 07/02/2020 - 21:50
        
        @Jackson: Transmission is the film distributor
        
        The Reel Dialogue and ShowFilmFirst screenings are in different cinemas to each other - they are unrelated
        
        There can only be one deal link and in this case it is to RD - the deal description lists all three links
        
        Jackson on 08/02/2020 - 09:12
        
        @tonester: Yeah I get that, I just think it would have been much easier if you listed that deal link as a SFF one and then put the others in the post, as it is the first thing people see is SFF and the main link goes elsewhere. I would have no problem with it if it was done that way, and I think others would have much less to argue about.
        
        Ah, yes film distributor. One of those mobs that have their little intro on the movies that get put out.
  - INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 01:15
    
    +1
    
    Yes, the motivation for ShowfilmsFirst is fairly clearly to make them money, by promoting films for companies. We are asked to provide feedback & share with our friends. Word of mouth is convincing from friends. It's quite clear.
    
    As a ShowfilmsFirst member, strangely I did not receive any promotion for this film from them.
    
    The motivation for a Christian group to promote this film is less clear. Obviously the film will most likely appeal to their followers. So it's a good fit.
    
    The Deal Link, takes you to Real Dialogues which redirects you
    to sign up through City Bible Forums website.
    This is a City Bible Forums event.
    
    There is no indication in this Deal this is a Christian promotion.
    Even after clicking the Deal Link there is little indication this is a Christian group.
    The logo at the top does refer to faith for Real Dialogues, & City Bible Forums is shown - but can be easily missed in the rush to click on the location link for a free movie.
    
    Only after choosing your location, you are taken to REEL DIALOGUE SCREENING - MILITARY WIVES.
    The easily missed web address & logo gives away who the real promoter is - City Bible Forum!
    
    https://citybibleforum.org/civicrm/event/register?reset=1&id=2239
    
    We need to sign up at City Bible Forum to receive a free movie!!
    (There is option not to be contacted.)
    
    City Bible Forum's intention to convert people to their belief is outlined on their site - at the bottom in "About us"
    Not what I expect from a free movie offer!! Most Christians should be cautious.
    
    A little too tricky! Beware!
    - tonester on 07/02/2020 - 06:30
      
      +2
      
      There is no indication in this Deal this is a Christian promotion.
      
      Why should there be when this deal is for free movie tickets?
      
      Even after clicking the Deal Link there is little indication this is a Christian group.
      
      Like many websites, this one has an About section - https://reeldialogue.com/about/
      
      Reel Dialogue is a creative dialogue between the church and entertainment culture (film and TV), with Christians discovering how common theological ground can be forged with story tellers, image shapers, and culture makers.
      
      https://citybibleforum.org/civicrm/event/register?reset=1&id…
      
      REEL DIALOGUE SCREENING - MILITARY WIVES
      
      We need to sign up at City Bible Forum to receive a free movie!!
      
      Does it matter which hosting or booking service the deal provider uses?
      
      City Bible Forum's intention to convert people to their belief is outlined on their site - at the bottom in "About us"
      
      Exactly where is that intention outlined?
ihavecentsnotsense on 06/02/2020 - 22:19

+3

They lure you in with a free movie then… BAM they shove a bible down your throat. NO THANK YOU.
- try2bhelpful on 06/02/2020 - 22:27
  
  +5
  
  Given the past actions of some of the Catholic priests you should be thankful it is only a Bible. I’ve been to a few showfilmsfirst but I think I will give this a miss as well.
seanbaussie on 06/02/2020 - 22:23

+8

I'm trying to get my head around why it matters who is offering a free movie preview.
Would there be OzB outrage if it were a money hungry capitalist? A gay rights lobbyist? A travel agent drumming up business? A Defence Force recruiter?
- INFIDEL on 06/02/2020 - 22:35
  
  +3
  
  There might be - so best to be up front.
  
  City Bible Forum has a stated agenda to promote Christian thinking & beliefs in business.
  
  When I've gone to a film promoted here by a travel company - that was declared. I still receive their emails!
  Didn't take away from the enjoyment, because I expected that.
  
  There can be a price for free admission😉
  
  Best to disclose any known associations.
  Worrying you prefer it to be hidden!
  - tonester on 06/02/2020 - 22:50
    
    +1
    
    so for Big W and Woolworths supermarket deals, should it be disclosed that their parent company owns Endeavour, to inform those concerned about alcohol and gambling?
    
    and how about Sanitarium - should all deals for their products mention that they are owned by the Seventh-day Adventist Church?
    - INFIDEL on 06/02/2020 - 23:15
      
      +2
      
      I have no issue with this film being listed as a Deal, just the failure to fully disclose the Christian groups promoting it.
      
      As this Deal is promoted & provided by Christian faith based group Reel Dialogue, with City Bible Forum listing it on their website as an upcoming event, it should be shown as promoted by Christian groups.
      
      Dialogue is a creative dialogue between the church and entertainment culture (film and TV), with Christians discovering how common theological ground can be forged with story tellers, image shapers, and culture makers.
      
      Why don't you want Ozbargainers not to know that?
      
      Many Christians would appreciate being told that Christian groups are promoting it! They could then choose to see it with other believers.
      
      The two Christian groups seem closely linked.
      
      Disclose & allow Ozbargainers to make an informed decision of whether to see the film & which group (film promotion business making money or Christian group promoting their beliefs) to book with. Simple.
      
      This free film is listed as an activity by City Bible Forum, on their website. By what I saw, it is showing at different cinemas to ShowfilmsFirst - so could involve promotion not usually associated with seeing a free film!
      
      It's the repeated failure to disclose to Ozbargainers that is worrying.
      (But good you gave an alternative booking option👍)
      
      Because the association between Woolworths / alcohol / pubs / pokies / making more money was widely known & criticised, Woolies have separated their pub operations from supermarkets. It's a start.
      Although they try to influence my spending through their promotions, they aren't trying to change my beliefs like the City Bible Forum.
      
      Similarly the link between Sanitarium & Seventh-day Adventist Church is not covered up.
      But I don't expect the teachings of their church in my cereal packet. It's just a business, which helps fund their works & churches. The business aligns with their beliefs.
      But I don't have to believe to eat their food!
      
      Knowing those details doesn't stop me buying their products. I make an informed choice.
      
      But as this film is promoted by Christian groups at separate venues to the ShowfilmsFirst cinemas, and City Bible Forum list it as their upcoming event - I can't be sure there may not be an undeclared ulterior motivation!
      
      Just disclose that Christian groups are promoting & providing this Deal!
      You've even provided a free option for those who may be uncomfortable with that.
      - tonester on 07/02/2020 - 06:30
        
        @INFIDEL: Besides the product or service, since when did a deal require details of its provider, especially when they can be found at the linked website?
        
        INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 06:34
        
        @tonester: The Organiser of the Event is City Bible Forum. Their website link for events & details belong in the Deal!
        
        Reel Dialogues just redirects bookings to City Bible Forum website!
        
        City Bible Forum have an agenda to change people's beliefs that some may not find appropriate. Especially so as that was not outlined in the Deal!
        
        That takes some searching to understand this - not found at the linked website! You should have told us!
        
        That link to Reel Dialogues site seems to be used to cover up the identity of the Organiser! Reel Dialogues redirects to City Bible Forum. Personal details are provided to City Bible Forum on their site.
        
        I have provided the direct links to the City Bible Forum Events
        
        Using a site that only redirects clicks, rather than using the organisers web address seems dodgie!
        
        City Bible Forum states it uses Events to discuss their beliefs.
        
        As such you should have disclosed that in this Deal.
        
        The fact that it is a Christian group doing this is not important - it is wrong whoever tries to trick people into providing their personal information & attending an event without realising what they've agreed to!
        
        tonester on 07/02/2020 - 07:00
        
        @INFIDEL:
        
        not found at the linked website
        
        https://reeldialogue.com/about/ - note
        
        INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 07:14
        
        @tonester: That's where I provided the first paragraph of their "About us" in the comment you replied to.
        
        But that's useless as Reel Dialogues only provide links to the City Bible Forum Events. They do not organise these Events, take bookings, etc.
        
        Reel Dialogues is like any other 3rd party source of information about an event (like newspapers, social media, OzBargain, etc) - it tells you where & when the movie is on, but has to direct you elsewhere to book, it can't do that.
        
        Better to go direct to the source - City Bible Forum Events.
        People might find other Events of interest like the "What would Jesus Say Today Bible Shots"!
        
        tonester on 07/02/2020 - 22:15
        
        @INFIDEL:
        
        But that's useless as Reel Dialogues only provide links to the City Bible Forum Events. They do not organise these Events, take bookings, etc.
        
        if they didn't organise these events, then why state:
        
        Reel Dialogue and Transmission Films would like to invite you to a special screening of Military Wives
        
        REEL DIALOGUE SCREENING - MILITARY WIVES
        
        Reel Dialogues is like any other 3rd party source of information about an event (like newspapers, social media, OzBargain, etc) - it tells you where & when the movie is on, but has to direct you elsewhere to book, it can't do that.
        
        does it matter that bookings are taken elsewhere?
        
        Better to go direct to the source - City Bible Forum Events.
        
        then one wouldn't know about the Sydney panel discussion :(
        
        People might find other Events of interest like the "What would Jesus Say Today Bible Shots"!
        
        For information about Reel Dialogue partner City Bible Forum’s events, visit their website for information.
        
        INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 22:40
        
        @tonester: Come off it!
        All Reel Dialogues does is link through to the appropriate Events organised by City Bible Forum site.
        That includes the Sydney panel discussion!
        Just check how your Deal works!
        
        By not disclosing this, people are signing up at City Bible Forum. They may not realise that is what your Deal does without warning them👎
        
        tonester on 07/02/2020 - 22:45
        
        @INFIDEL: Reel Dialogues organises events which are booked though City Bible Forum - what's wrong with that?
        
        There is no mention of a panel discussion on City Bible Forum, only on Reel Dialogues
        
        INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 22:47
        
        @tonester: Believe what you want. We've been through this many times.
        
        The links provided by Reel Dialogues are simply links to City Bible Forum
        
        City Bible Forum claim these as their Events.
        
        If they were Reel Dialogues events - Reel Dialogue would do the booking on their site, not redirect to various City Bible Forum Events.
        
        The panel discussion is the same City Bible Forum Event. Reel Dialogue may contribute to the City Bible Forum Events.
        I would expect religious discussions at all City Bible Forum Events.
        
        tonester on 07/02/2020 - 22:55
        
        -1
        
        @INFIDEL: Again, it is a Reel Dialogues event that appears on and is booked though the City Bible Forum website
        
        However, if someone booked directly through the City Bible Forum link you provided, then they would not know that there is a panel discussion, because it has no mention of one, unlike the Reel Dialogues website, hence they would be less informed :(
        
        edit: you changed your reply before i posted
        
        City Bible Forum claim these as their Events.
        
        How?
        
        If they were Reel Dialogues events - Reel Dialogue would do the booking on their site, not redirect to various City Bible Forum Events.
        
        Why?
me want bargains on 06/02/2020 - 22:29

No VIC? that sucks!
- tonester on 06/02/2020 - 22:40
  
  sorry - too late :( perhaps try again later
Daabido on 06/02/2020 - 23:06

It's no the X-Files people. Get a grip.
https://youtu.be/RXVE01oOTAM
INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 02:24

+3

Direct links to City Bible Forum events.
The Deal Link is to one of their events, despite denial by OP!

Avoids being redirected to City Bible Forum by Reel Dialogues, after clicking Deal Link. (That seems to be used here to hide the real promoter).

Deal involves sign up of personal details to City Bible Forum.
(Try ShowfilmsFirst links if that is an issue.)
INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 06:12

+1

This may be more than just a movie…
Be prepared to be converted.

As the Deal Link is to an (undisclosed) Event of the City Bible Forum. which creates spaces and opportunities in the workplace to talk about the big issues you care about, &
our highly trained and experienced staff and volunteers are explaining the Bible to people every day, in every way.
Our interactive events and public forums are designed for the curious, the thinkers, the sceptics.
Expect to hear their views.

City Bible Forum

I have no problem with Christian & other groups events as Deals - but the group organising the event should be disclosed.
They should not hide behind a (Reel Dialogues) site that directs you to the groups site without warning.

The Mods apparently don't see that as important!

My Report to simply add City Bible Forum as the organiser of this Event was dismissed with out reason, after so many hours!
So I've tried to bring this issue to attention through these comments.
- tonester on 07/02/2020 - 06:45
  
  +2
  
  Expect to hear their views.
  
  Whose views? Besides perhaps welcoming guests to the film, the deal link only mentions Sydney as having a panel discussion
  
  I have no problem with Christian & other groups events as Deals - but they should be disclosed as such.
  
  Besides the product or service, since when did a deal require details of its provider, especially when they can be found at the linked website?
BangkokBreakfast on 07/02/2020 - 06:58

+7

Came for the free movie, ended up with more entertainment in the comments
- INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 07:09
  
  Next time we'll charge admission😀
- seanbaussie on 07/02/2020 - 07:24
  
  +2
  
  Oh no, I think OzB had better put in their headings that comments may be more interesting than the post.
  Otherwise it may seem that they have a hidden agenda of making you read comments instead of bargains.
  - INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 07:29
    
    Reading comments is good!
    There is often more important information in the comments than the Deal. (Especially so in this Deal.)
    
    Hope you enjoy the movie.
  - Payne on 07/02/2020 - 14:50
    
    Indeed :)
    
    Makes me wonder if anyone will disclose movies that are funded by the military if they're posted. I think they go out of their way to make their association more subtle though.
    
    I'm no fan of people pushing their agendas, but at least it was pretty obvious in this case.
    - INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 20:16
      
      How is City Bible Forum agenda pretty obvious in this case?
      
      It's not obvious from the Deal.
      It doesn't show the Deal links through to City Bible Forum.
      
      It didn't be much more hidden…
      A different website "Reel Dialogues" in the Deal Link directed us to City Bible Forum without notice.
      
      Many would have unwittingly given away their personal details to the group as it wasn't obviously stated to be City Bible Forum.
      
      And finding out the agenda of the group was not even obvious after being directed to that City Bible Forum website!
      
      The OP even denies it's a City Bible Forum Event. It is.
      
      The City Bible Forum agenda seemed pretty well hidden in this case!
      
      That's why I have repeatedly asked for the City Bible Forum association with this Deal to be disclosed in the Deal Description.
      - Payne on 07/02/2020 - 22:53
        
        @INFIDEL: The City Bible Corner logo and wording is scattered all throughout the sites and links. It's obvious.
        
        I get that you really don't like them pushing their agenda, but be really careful, because it sounds like you're trying to push an agenda of your own. You might think they're completely different, but they're two sides of the same coin. Give it some thought.
        
        So…full disclosure - why are you perusing this so relentlessly?
        
        INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 23:04
        
        @Payne: In viewing their sign up on my phone - it's not very apparent, especially if all you are concentrating on is to get a free movie ticket.
        
        I've seen too many people agreeing to go to events organised by groups, only to disappear into those groups / cults. It's a common recruiting method for them.
        
        So I am cautious, especially when the outcome was not made clear when signing up.
        
        It's best to make people aware before that - that they are signing up at City Bible Forum, or other sites, they didn't expect to be sent to.
        
        It's only the method of attracting people to sign up without making that clear, that worries me in this Deal.
        
        I know nothing about City Bible Forum & am not criticising them.
        
        Payne on 07/02/2020 - 23:31
        
        @INFIDEL:
        
        into those groups / cults
        
        Careful with your wording there. They're a Christian organisation and registered charity, not a cult.
        
        I've also seen people decide that certain religions are what they need at various points in their lives. That's their choice. It's not for me, but I'm not here to try and push people one way or another.
        
        By assuming this group has a hidden agenda or will cause people to 'disappear', it sounds like you're deliberately trying to paint a negative picture of them, even though as you admitted, you know nothing about them.
        
        People can make their own decisions in life. They can do their own research and make a decision for themselves.
        
        INFIDEL on 08/02/2020 - 11:47
        
        @Payne: As I said above, not saying anything about or against City Bible Forum & other groups I know nothing about.
        
        Just we are not informed the Deal Link takes us to a page on City Bible Forum. We are asked to provide our details in return for their movie Event, without outlining if that is just the movie or a religious discussion.
        They don't clearly state who they are & there is not the usual protection of what will happen to those details.
        They don't bother with the normal Privacy Policy & as a charity - can avoid the Do Not Call restrictions.
        
        They're a Christian organisation and registered charity
        The first person I was concerned about was enticed into a Christian organisation and registered charity! That's no protection.
        
        My friend had long term depression. She was not in a fit state to make decisions for herself, as you recommend.
        
        That Church offered her a free Personality Test & we never saw her again. They would not allow contact or acknowledge she was in their building. I was concerned for her mental health. Police would not help.
        
        From that I became interested in how such groups recruited new members. They were usually vulnerable, searching for a simple solution.
        
        It's just a common tactic to get new members. Dodgie sales people use similar techniques to take advantage of people.
        
        So people in general should be cautious about what they agree to & make decisions for themselves.
        I think we agree on that.
- djk on 07/02/2020 - 13:02
  
  That's all there is for us where they aren't showing it in our cities, lol!
KevCol on 07/02/2020 - 13:57

+4

Someone gave us free tickets and I was reluctantly taken to this movie and found it to be very, very good despite being about the British army with its class system and families all living together in a garrison. Turned out to be all about the character of the women.

I think I will choose a whicker coffin when I go. Much better than polished mahogany with chrome plastic handles. Hopefully reusable with a combustile insert.

I would pay money to see this movie. There is no religious propaganda in it.
HangryCakeStore on 07/02/2020 - 17:09

This is the 21st century, keep your religious, backwards brainwashing Crap out of these deals, thanks

Not to mention pointless wars USA started

& religious people always looking ways to take advantage of the vulnerable minds! I've seen how they work
- moggott on 07/02/2020 - 21:25
  
  -1
  
  Yeah Islamists keep recruiting more terrorists.
Laurana on 07/02/2020 - 17:48

+5

As a newbie on the site, if I were the OP and had gotten this amount of outrage, accusations and requests for edit, I would be extremely put off from posting another deal ever again. That was insane.
- entropysbane on 07/02/2020 - 19:30
  
  Looking at the number of comments by infidel, the poor chap has ‘issues’
  - INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 19:43
    
    -3
    
    Yes - Issues with groups who want to change our beliefs, with out saying who they are.
    Do you really want that in Deals here??
    
    In this Deal, hiding behind a website that directs you to sign up at a religious group's website - without any warning.
    
    City Bible Forums collect your personal information without being obvious about who they are & don't disclose what they will do with it.
    
    And it's a City Bible Forums Event they say they use to create discussion of their beliefs.
    
    It's not about it being a Christian site - it could be a very different religion or political group - it's just a tricky way to get people involved with their group!
    It's a tactic of fringe belief groups. It's something I have studied at Uni. Shouldn't be encouraged on OzBargain!
    
    The association between this free film offer in the Deal Link & City Bible Forums needs disclosure in the Deal Description so people can
    make a choice.
    
    24 hours after I raised this issue it had not been disclosed in the Deal.
    
    Adding that would have made this Deal so much shorter. Disclosure is best in Deals.
    - tonester on 07/02/2020 - 22:45
      
      Issues with groups who want to change our beliefs, with out saying who they are.
      
      Who are they? :)
- INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 19:53
  
  -4
  
  I don't like people being deliberately misled. Many probably unwittingly gave their personal details to City Bible Forum. It's association was not made obvious. People wanted something free so did not check first.
  
  24 hours ago I suggested in the first comment - a simple addition to the Deal:
  This free Event is brought to us by City Bible Forum…
  Should be in Deal Description!
  
  That disclosure would have solved most of the issues discussed.
  
  The OP didn't want that disclosed. My Report requesting this was not acted on by the Mods.
  Hence my numerous warnings that this is a religious Deal tricking people to sign up, masquerading as a free movie Deal!
  - tonester on 08/02/2020 - 00:15
    
    ok, so which is your deal disclosure issue:
    
    that Reel Dialogue bookings are taken elsewhere
    
    and/or
    
    that Reel Dialogue is a "religious group"
    
    ?
- tonester on 07/02/2020 - 23:10
  
  +1
  
  thanks, though you're a member since 2014?
  
  fortunately i'm a power user and have generally been on relatively friendly terms with @the INFIDEL for a while, so hopefully this is just one of those rare cases where we'll have to agree to disagree :)
  
  yes, it can be a tough crowd here, just don't take things too personally, but please contribute however you feel comfortable
  - INFIDEL on 07/02/2020 - 23:15
    
    Was going to say that myself👍
    
    We've had good relations over a long time. We have opposite views on this Deal. 1 disagreement doesn't change that!
    
    This is a rare neg - if there is a problem I like to resolve it without such measures.
    
    In general OzBargain is supportive, especially to those new to posting.
  - Laurana on 07/02/2020 - 23:26
    
    +1
    
    I joined a long time ago, but have only started being active recently. I had no idea it was that long ago though :p
- djk on 08/02/2020 - 07:59
  
  +1
  
  A sensible comment and I must admit that to me sometimes the comments can seem rather savage to me, but please don't be put off if it the case for you as I have found most people are friendly and helpful. Also the votes on comments too.
  
  For this film a number of companies/organisations are offering free tickets and using showfilm first to manage the bookings.
  
  Showfilm First targets their leftover seat offerings to their subscribers so I only ever receive offers for old people, pity! Though if I have a code then I have a code from ozbargain post or other sources (yes the Gentlemen was great) then I can access the tickets unless sold out.
  
  Showfilm First always send a feedback email for your opinion.
  
  As previous comments and the title have indicated it is about Military Wives. Even saw a travel company offering tickets for the same preview but such limited availability so I didn't post it.
  
  Hope everyone who has tickets enjoys the film.
INFIDEL on 08/02/2020 - 10:45

To clarify, I have only 1 objection about this otherwise good Deal. It could have quickly been fixed.

Clicking the Deal Link, we are redirected to City Bible Forum site to book our free movie.

That may not be clearly apparent to everyone.
So early in the Deal, I asked for this information to be put in the Deal Description. The OP & Mods said no.
(Finally a minor but inadequate modification was made yesterday by the OP adding:
https://reeldialogue.com/military-wives-national-events-get-… (City Bible Forum))

Over 1000 have clicked through the link for free movie tickets. That's potentially a lot of personal information given to this group in return for a movie!

To book our free movie ticket, we provide our personal details to City Bible Forum. There are problems with this:

1 City Bible Forum has no stated privacy policy. This is unlike most booking sites.

2 City Bible Forum do not tell us what will be done with our personal information.

3 We are not told if it will be kept secure, passed to other groups or sold.
We can only request not to receive
notifications about events like this & regular news updates about us and our activities.

That would usually have people concerned!

Here is the privacy policy for booking through ShowfilmsFirst

City Bible Forum website shows Events are used to develop dialog about their beliefs.

We are not told what booking this Event at City Bible Forum entails. The Sydney Event lists a panel discussion as well as the movie. Not everyone wanting the free movie may want this. Can always leave.

So this free movie comes with some unknowns - what will City Bible Forum use our personal information for, and are we just booking a free movie?

Otherwise a good Deal.

Hope people do enjoy the movie🎬
INFIDEL on 08/02/2020 - 11:02

Note: all ShowfilmsFirst sessions are sold out.
myusername on 08/02/2020 - 11:10

propaganda is not a deal

glorifying wars is not a bargain
AstroPhysic on 08/02/2020 - 11:41

It's pretty obvious that the INFIDEL and tonester are the same person…
- INFIDEL on 08/02/2020 - 11:52
  
  +1
  
  No, we agree on we're not getting a room!😉
  
  We have a long history of friendly discussions on OzBargain. Until now!😀
  
  Yes, our differences in this Deal are pretty minor, but opposing.
  I just think people should be informed of the problems in this Deal.
Camerlottoo on 10/02/2020 - 20:25

ok…thought this was a site where bargains could be posted. I also thought it was up to those who wanted the bargain to check into it and see if it was for them. Full Stop. Many bargains may go against my opinion on things so I do not buy them.. it's simple imho.
TFL23 on 11/02/2020 - 09:14

Can anyone tell me if you need your ID to go to these previews. I can't go anymore but my mum can, can she go with my tickets? - these tickets are through ShowFilmFirst
- try2bhelpful on 11/02/2020 - 11:22
  
  +1
  
  I’ve never had to show an ID for showfilmfirst films.
  - TFL23 on 11/02/2020 - 16:38
    
    Do I have exchange the print version for real cinema tickets at the counter? Thank you for responding, I appreciate it.
    - hamza23 on 11/02/2020 - 16:40
      
      Any that I've been to, they just view your print out then let you in, so it will act as your ticket and walk straight in the cinema from the door. Everyone in the screening would be via free tickets and there will be a lot of people usually.
      - TFL23 on 11/02/2020 - 16:41
        
        @hamza23: Great, thank you so much.
        
        locapez on 12/02/2020 - 17:52
        
        @TFL23: Yep, never had an issue with name. There are always heaps of people so tell your mum to just join the line of people with paper tickets in their hand like hers. Also there are no trailers (or very few), so make sure she gets there early.
- INFIDEL on 13/02/2020 - 17:22
  
  Was at a free ShowfilmsFirst screening of Mel Gibson in ‘The Professor and the Madman’ last night. Enjoyed it much more than the reviews would suggest. But I had read the book.
  
  We just turned up, queued up, no checks - straight into the movie.
  That movie was only for those who received the email, so stricter conditions applied.
  
  My guess is if someone wanted to see the movie, they could just show up at a ShowfilmsFirst session. Always have been empty seats at their movies I've seen. The promoters are trying to attract appreciative viewers, so better than empty seats.
profounddominator on 17/02/2020 - 10:12

Have tickets for tonight (VIC) and can't seem to cancel them. Please message me if interested.
- Bik on 17/02/2020 - 14:27
  
  which cinema location?
  - profounddominator on 17/02/2020 - 14:58
    
    Think they're jam factory

This was posted 4 years 10 months 16 days ago, and might be an out-dated deal.

Free National Advance Film Screenings of Military Wives @ ShowFilmFirst (Free Membership/Registration Required) & Reel Dialogue

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