Experience with Marriott Vacation Club Sales Presentation

Earlier in the month my partner and I were invited to stay at the Marriott Resort Surfers Paradise to attend a presentation/sales pitch for the Marriott Vacation Club.

We had previously sat through this 2 years earlier and were not impressed, a polite but firm no was offered at the end of the 2 hour session.

This time round I was curious to see what had changed if anything. They have added many more properties, however a property is listed if they have as little as 1 room/unit owned by the MVC.

The idea being similar to timeshare however that is a bad word, you buy points into a club which you can use to book hotels and other travel packages around the world. The base package you need is 1500 points, which at $19 a point plus fees comes to something $30k.

The salesperson asks how many weeks per year you would be on holiday/work and use that to manipulate numbers to trick you.
We said 3 weeks, which the salesman put into a calculator.
3 weeks per year, $200 per night, with taxes and inflation over 30 years popping out a number on the worse side of half a million dollars.
I asked him for a fair comparison to what 1500 points would get me, it turned out more like 7-8 nights, and lowered the ppn a little brang it down to $90K over 30 years.
This caught him off guard a little, anyway he went on to explain the yearly fees, and here is the alarming part of this - roughly $1.8K in maintenance and other fees annually, which is subject to change whenever they feel.

I had had enough and indicated my negative feeling to the offer, his manager came to explain perks of "Join Today", which were definitely not swaying. I explained to them that $1.8K pays most peoples accommodation for a week or 2, they scoffed but knew by now I wasn't interest and let us go but not before offering another try later in the future which I declined.

Points of interest being;
- To secure any bonuses/price freezes you must commit right there and then, with a 10% payment on the day.
- you must pay the annual fees regardless of whether you use the points or not.
- you cant sell points without paying ridiculous fees per point.
- There are 7k odd properties however you are competing with 420K members for these properties.
- They supplied us with the Product Disclosure Statement(dozens of pages)… 3 minutes before we began the presentation.

The annoying part is Marriott Resort is a fantastic place to stay, but they have become the host for MVC in Australia, and it has become a major turnoff for me to consider staying there in the future.

I advise anybody attending a pitch to research before arrival, ask many questions and go in defensive.

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Comments

  • Ok

  • +2

    Isn't that standard? They give you a free night, or free dinner or whatever and in return you get the sales pitch, knowing full well they'll be pushy?

    It's been like that for decades

  • +2

    anyway he went on to explain the yearly fees, and here is the alarming part of this - roughly $1.8K in maintenance and other fees annually, which is subject to change whenever they feel.

    Yep, this is the bit I never understood with timeshare or any scheme that is basically timeshare with a different name, yes I'm looking at you MVC!

    Pay say $1.8k a year to stay somewhere, regardless if you use it or not. Say what!?

    Anyhow google timeshare for sale, and you'll find lots of websites for people giving away their timeshare for free, as they just don't want to continue paying the yearly fees that come with it, which unless you die, once you have signed up to these timeshare places, you're stuck paying the yearly fees for life!

    Its massive in the USA (hawaii) when I was over there last, trying to hook people into buying timeshare. To me it just seems a great way for these resorts to offload the costs onto someone else, and fill the rooms in the off peak season!

    But a great write up OP, thanks for posting.

  • +1

    Thanks OP. I purchased based on your advice.

  • +2

    H: Marge, Marge, Marge, remember when those smooth talking guys tried to sell me a timeshare vacation condo?

    M: You bought four of them. Thank god the cheque bounced.

    H: I beat the system.

  • If you can afford to stay at the Marriott regularly though are still considering this timeshare type scam then you have more dollars than sense.

    Maybe this type of scheme was helpful to people before the internet?

  • +1

    Where do you find these Timeshare presentations? On the street?

  • ASICs Money Smart store does a great job of covering off time share schemes https://www.moneysmart.gov.au/investing/property/timeshares

  • We stayed in one in Park City, Utah recently and got approached several times by the sales guy. Early in ski season, the place was empty. The apartment was nice.

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