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Pro-Ject Klireftt-Klipsch Belt-Drive Audiophile Turntable $199 + Delivery @ Digital Cinema

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Pro-Ject Klireftt-Klipsch Belt-Drive Audiophile Turntable $199 + Delivery @ Digital Cinema
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Being Askhole on 18/11/2019 - 15:32 digitalcinema.com.au (1830 clicks)
Last edited 18/11/2019 - 16:20

Came across with this and looks like good deal. Enjoy :)

Pro-Ject Klireftt-Klipsch Belt-Drive Audiophile Turntable is easy to set up without the need of counterweight and anti-skating adjustment.

Super easy plug and play without any need of counterweight and anti-skating adjustment Connect directly to R-15PM phono preamp Belt drive with silicone belt With the OM cartridge, you instantly hear the improvement: music you've heard many times takes on new dimensions.

  • Low vibration synchronous AC motor with DC driven
  • Unique OM 5 optimized 8.6” aluminium tonearm
  • Pre-mounted interconnect cable with gold-plated RCA plugs
  • Acrylic Lid
  • Finish: Black
  • Dimensions: Height 4.4in (11.2cm), Width: 16.5in (42cm), Depth 13in (33cm)
  • Weight 8.8 lbs (4,0kg)

Key Features

  • Connect Directly to R-15PM Phono Preamp
  • Belt Drive With Silicone Belt
  • Low Vibration Synchronous AC Motor With DC Driven Control
  • Unique OM 5 Optimised 8.6” Aluminium Tonearm
  • Pre-Mounted Interconnect Cable With Gold-Plated RCA Plugs
  • Acrylic Lid
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  • Gav on 18/11/2019 - 15:53
    +5

    Ignore the RRP. Turntable is rebranded older Primary (before Primary E):

    https://www.project-audio.com/en/product/primary/

    • Vool on 18/11/2019 - 18:20
      +2

      So… is it any good at that price?

      I have a stack of vinyl but nothing to play them in.

      Because I was considering one of these https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/audio-technica-lp60x-full…

      • kamikkels on 19/11/2019 - 08:33
        +1

        It's quite good at that price, but it's a fully manual Turntable, and depending on your existing stereo setup will probably require purchaing an additional phono pre-amp.

        The AT-LP60X is fully automatic, with a built in pre-amp (that can be bypassed), and is pretty widely regarded as a solid entry level turntable.
        you can also find them for ~$200 too.

        • Vool on 19/11/2019 - 16:55

          Thanks. I'm moving in a few weeks so not looking to buy at the moment but will keep that in mind.

          • Just noticed that store you linked will be just up the road so will definitely keep it in mind.
      • Sythe on 19/11/2019 - 11:07

        I wouldn't go for the lp60x. It is a bit of a trap. r/vinyl have good details as to why it isn't recommended.
        https://www.reddit.com/r/vinyl/comments/5bh435/list_of_turnt…

        This would be a better alternative, or spend slightly more and go for the Pro-Ject Elemental. This is a little old, but still good info-
        https://www.reddit.com/r/vinyl/comments/5ghkwd/best_new_entr…

        • kamikkels on 19/11/2019 - 14:11

          The comments in that thread are talking about the LP60 rather than the LP60X, the LP60X is still a Hanpin turntable (all Audio Technicas are), but fixes the bulk of the issues that the LP60 had.

          The LP60X is definitely still an entry level turntable, but it's hard to find something better at the same price point.

          • Sythe on 20/11/2019 - 11:12

            @kamikkels: The major issues for me are around the tone arm and lack of removable cartridge and they don't look like they would be fixed on the lp60x, but yes, my links were about the old model some of that info may be out of date.
            I still wouldn't recommend the lp60x in Australia, as at its price here, its competing with some models that are similar specs while allowing for upgrading of parts.

    • ozbking on 18/11/2019 - 15:58

      Why is that? I've noticed "audiophile" ones seem to be more belt driven, while DJ ones seem to be more direct drive?

      • SteveAndBelle on 18/11/2019 - 16:07
        +10

        As per many things, there are pros & cons to the different drive types. The beauty of a belt drive is that the motor is isolated from platter a lot more than a direct drive or idler-wheel drive and therefore motor vibrations are minimised. Simple really… but in saying that I've got a vintage TT worth many, many thousands (but only cost me $50 2nd-hand) that uses an idler-wheel and it's classed as one of the best ever made. At the end of the day I'm pretty sure a simple belt drive is the most effective (& cost effective) method of reducing motor drive noise transfer to the platter which is why it's still used so much even in modern TTs.

        • AustriaBargain on 18/11/2019 - 16:40

          I just listen to vinyl rips from audiophile forums. Let them argue about the best way to play and rip them.

          • SteveAndBelle on 18/11/2019 - 16:49
            +15

            @AustriaBargain: Ha, yeah. LPs are purely a tactile thing for me… I get the same enjoyment and perceived sound quality playing LPs as I do streaming digital files from 'wherever'. I do like the manual process of selecting an LP, removing it from its sleeve, placing it on a platter, running the brush over it then lowering the arm and hearing the click then sitting back and being amazed that the excellent sound I'm hearing is pure analog from the grooves on the LP right through to my ears. I also enjoy tinkering with gear too so restoring, servicing, aligning, balancing & adjusting TTs is also a joy… but absolutely each to their own. 80-90% of my listening is digital streaming anyway so there you go :)

          • Diji1 on 18/11/2019 - 16:52
            -4

            @AustriaBargain: Leave it to audiophiles to use vinyl instead of CD.

            The human ear cannot hear greater resolution than CD is capable of whereas vinyl is incapable of reproducing that quality level.

            • AustriaBargain on 18/11/2019 - 16:56
              +5

              @Diji1: I don’t know about that, but vinyl rips definitely sound a bit different to CDs. I don’t know if that difference is better, but I think it sounds better at higher volumes than a cd does. Also could be that the vinyls were just mastered better than whoever the record companies got to master the CDs, the sound engineers responsible might just have higher standards or better ears.

              • Apple96 on 18/11/2019 - 17:19
                -3

                @AustriaBargain: Digital distorts due to a coding error made back in early days, analog doesn't. Digital Vs Analog

                • bejahi on 18/11/2019 - 19:59

                  @Apple96: Maybe wrong link there mate?

                  • Apple96 on 18/11/2019 - 20:03
                    +1

                    @bejahi: No, I feel it conveys the difference between analog and digital loudness

                    • bejahi on 18/11/2019 - 20:07

                      @Apple96: Oh right. You're really misunderstanding something there. But carry on 😬

                      • Apple96 on 18/11/2019 - 20:39

                        @bejahi: I will note, Im not audio engineer, just someone who works with audio a lot and remembers a documentary which mentioned something along those lines, but my memory is crap.

            • SteveAndBelle on 18/11/2019 - 17:06
              +1

              @Diji1: Yes, and this is also where all the glorious magic of audio kicks in too. You can chase low-noise, super-low distortion & full frequency specs until the cows come home, believe me I've done that for years & years and spent bucketloads in the process BUT some of my most enjoyable listening has come from very mediocre, low value systems I've cobbled together from the gear in my collection. One vintage Amp I have is in desperate need of attention with a slight hum from its transformer and nearly bone dry capacitors but warm it up for a while and stream some Black Crowes through it and I'm in heaven! Play the same thing through a perfect 'in-spec' near-new Amp connected to the same speakers and it sounds boring & lifeless… but throw some Grimes through it and boom, you're back in heaven again! That's what makes it such a great hobby :) No such thing as 'the ultimate' system!

        • vinnycol on 18/11/2019 - 17:18
          +1

          Minimal vibration from a dd motor as it rotates at the platter speed and is eqpipped with 24 odd poles… of course you get what u pay for as with anything…

        • clandestino on 19/11/2019 - 12:32

          what turntable do you have?

          • SteveAndBelle on 19/11/2019 - 12:49

            @clandestino: I have a few. My main 'daily' is a Yamaha PX-2 Linear Tracker which I love to bits. Absolutely rock solid with incredible output. I also have a couple of Technics 1200 MkIIs which work and sound fine but both need full restos. I have a few B&O TTs… a mint condition, never used Beogram 1200 (lid still in its plastic bag!), a restored 4000 and a 5005 working but yet to be restored but the pride of the TT collection is a minty & original Thorens 124 MK-II on a custom solid cedar plinth with a BNIB SME3009 Arm & BNIB Shure V15 Cartridge. Oh and I nearly forgot the beautiful Michell Transcriptor with all its original accessories which works but needs a ground up resto inc. pucks requiring a gold replate as they've all gone dull and blackened. Yes, vintage Hifi is a disease :)

    • jjcf on 18/11/2019 - 17:02
      +1

      This, but literally the exact opposite.

    • pigferret on 18/11/2019 - 18:43

      Only if you're a DJ.

      Although Technics SL-1200 (gold standard DJ decks) are often used by audiophiles despite being direct drive.

  • Loracks on 18/11/2019 - 15:59
    +2

    Reviews of this say it's got a bad hum. Some have had success with adding further grounding wires.

    • avtech on 18/11/2019 - 22:38
      +2

      Reviews can be found here:
      https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LMgFBs…

      The fix to the hum is in this post:
      Rene Flores Jr·23 November 2018
      4.0 out of 5 starsVerified Purchase
      I know how to fix the buzz and I love the turntable
      Definitely the best sounding turntable for the price. There are a lot of reviews talking about the humming or buzz sound the turntable makes when you put it on phono and are ready to listen to your favorite records. This is a design flaw in most Pro-Ject turntables, but has a very easy fix. First, the ground cable that’s attached to the turntable is not enough to ground the system therefore you have the annoying buzz (if you take the ground cable out of the ground screw behind the speaker it will sound louder). The trick is to Further ground the ground screw behind the speaker (with the turntable ground connected as well) to the wall outlet ground. I found a grounding cable in my garage that worked like a charm. Look for grounding adaptors or grounding cable to fix this issue. It truly is a marvelous sounding table. Speakers are awesome.

  • watts on 18/11/2019 - 16:03
    +2

    de-badged Project Primary E turntable I guess. About as good as you'll get for $200 new.

    In case anyone else was wondering, this also comes in an a bundle with klipsch active speakers hence all the mention of R-15PM.

    https://www.digitalcinema.com.au/klipsch-r-15pm-and-pro-ject…

    • Gav on 18/11/2019 - 16:03
      +1

      Nope, it's the one before the Primary E. See my comment above.

      • watts on 18/11/2019 - 16:11

        yeah, just a guess as I said.
        how can you tell? they look exactly the same.

        • Gav on 18/11/2019 - 16:15
          +1

          Release date (2016) & reviews.

    • captaincabinets on 18/11/2019 - 18:34

      Heh. "Turntable ready" turntable. Good job marketing department

  • eswes on 18/11/2019 - 16:06

    It sounds like it already has a phono pre-amp built in? If that is the case, my understanding is that you can plug it straight into any line input. Can anyone confirm?

    • Loracks on 18/11/2019 - 16:11
      +1

      the speakers come with a pre-amp. These work connected directly to those speakers, ie. they need a pre-amp (is my reading).

      • jjcf on 18/11/2019 - 17:05
        +1

        Yup - the R-15PM speakers (which they recommend in the listing) have a phono preamp built in.

        The turntable does not.

    • watts on 18/11/2019 - 16:12
      +2

      no it doesn't. The speakers have the built in pre-amp, which this TT is sometimes bundled with. A bit of a trap if you don't read it correctly.

    • Baysew on 18/11/2019 - 16:13
      +1

      Nope -

      Connect directly to R-15PM phono preamp

      • eswes on 18/11/2019 - 16:25

        Ah OK, thanks all for the clarification.

  • CoffeeCoke on 18/11/2019 - 16:20
    +1

    Need "plus Delivery" in the title

  • giventofly on 18/11/2019 - 16:31
    +1

    Is Audiophile the new 'pro' moniker?

    • jjcf on 18/11/2019 - 17:30

      Audiophile here is used generally to distinguish it from a DJing turntable.

  • capslock janitor on 18/11/2019 - 16:41
    -1

    looks like a record playaaa

  • RADICALIST on 18/11/2019 - 16:48

    People still use CDs??

    • AlexF on 18/11/2019 - 18:35
      +1

      Sure. A record is just a extra large CD.

  • fookos on 18/11/2019 - 17:44

    I was looking at getting back into turntables a few years back but never got around to it - didn't have a fitting spot in the lounge that was also going to avoid vibration from the speakers.

    Remember looking at some Pro-Ject models and some Rega. Can't recall which I was leaning towards.

    What's the cartridge like on this model? Is the OM5E an entry level?

    I'm never sure about trusting RRP prices - is this really a good buy or commonly found in this price territory - albeit maybe not quite this low?

    • SteveAndBelle on 18/11/2019 - 17:57
      +1

      Cartridge is Ortofons entry level which suits this TT as it too is entry level but will be more than enough for most!

    • watts on 19/11/2019 - 13:03
      +1

      RRP of the Primary E is around $350. this mob has it for $244 so I doubt you'll see it below $200.

      https://www.theaudiotailor.com.au/products/pro-ject-primary-…

      A couple of options to deal with vibration.

      I had bad feedback from speakers when I had turntable sitting on same piece of furniture as speakers. Low pass filter fixed it and so did moving the speakers to stands.

      OM5E is entry level for ortofon, but a step above entry compared to the crap that comes on some lesser brand turntables. Easy to upgrade just the stylus to OM10 ($50) or 20 ($150), using the same cartridge.

    • PlasticSpaceman on 19/11/2019 - 18:02

      Similar - I was choosing between the Planar 1 or 2, and various Pro-Ject models. Reviews seemed to point towards the sound quality being better on the Planars (eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuuOgT0XBK0) so I was going to get one of those before I found my old turntable in the shed still worked. It has since died, so this is tempting. The Planar 1 is looking at the $495 mark vs $218 (shipped to Melb) for this - I suspect that the Planar 1 is a little better with its Carbon/AT3600L cartridge. I dunno - might stick with google music…. ;-)

  • Majosha on 24/11/2019 - 21:14

    I'm guessing this has expired?

    Showing $249.00 now

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