Is this car $18,000 any good? Or any other alternative?
2019 Volkswagen Polo 70TSI Trendline AW Auto MY19 - Is This Any Good?
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Imagine not understanding what tsi means before posting something irrelevant.
It's the company responsible for the dieselgate scandal.
What does that have to do with op buying a petrol polo?
@brendanm: Oh, I see my error now. People such as yourself don't see any problem with purchasing from a company that considers itself above the law. I shouldn't have been so presumptuous.
@kahn: I don't think they thought they're above the law.
One doesn't conceal a transgression if one doesn't think they can be held accountable.
VW did a dodgy so has pretty much every other car manufacturer. Ford has practically done the same thing. Several japanese brands have knowingly concealed faulty airbags.
You don't seem to have a problem with those. Your moral lines seem dictated by extent of media coverage.
@[Deactivated]: It wasn't simply a dodgy though. The software designed to cheat emissions testing, the destruction of evidence, the denial of the existence of the cheating, the denial of any wrong-doing, etc. It all represents a corrupt company that doesn't want to be held to account and holds its customers in contempt.
If you think that it's rational to support such a company, then you can say so. Personally, I don't think it is. I would argue that Volkswagen's actions are worse than other manufacturers' actions but feel free to disagree and lump them all in the same basket.
@kahn: As tshow said, pretty much all car companies, or companies in general, do things that aren't "moral". The VW thing is simply blown right up the media, for self righteous people to get all upset about, and have a "cause" they can harp on about.
If you are upset about emissions, you should get onto power companies burning coal, or cargo liners burning bunker fuel.
@brendanm: I'm just guessing here, but perhaps you guys don't know all the details about dieselgate. Just like all crimes aren't equal and carry differing sentence guidelines, so too should consumer backlash differ according to the gravity of scandals such as dieselgate.
@kahn: They committed a huge crime, but they've paid several billion in fines, bought back affected cars, and several bosses are in prison. What else, blacklist VW forever? 50 years? 10? Should we not buy this car, even though it's an unrelated product? VW made cars for Hitler. Mitsubishi made planes that bombed Pearl Harbour, yet we still buy Golfs and Tritons. Consumers have a short memory.
@SydStrand: People can decide for themselves. Some people don't care, others might be slightly dissuaded, others might be very cautious, while others might avoid VW until they rebuild their reputation.
They’re paying billions in fines. Let’s move on.
Rightly or wrongly "Dieselgate" and "DSG Problems" are two thoughts that jump into mind when VW is mentioned.
Whilst this may not be a problem for a new car buyer, it still may be a problem later on when trying to sell.
Bad car, decent price.
In this price range, it is hard to find a decent new car.
Doesn't have to be a new car does it?
It's not a terrible car if you're not planning to keep it for more than 5 years or so, and you're not worried about resale.
I helped cross-shop one of these. It comfortably outclasses every other car in this segment. The Mazda 2 and Yaris haven't been updated in years. It's much more premium than the Swift. And Australia doesn't get the new Fiesta. I wouldn't consider a Clio.
I haven't looked at it before but saw a couple on the street and the Kia Rio GT looks great.
https://www.caradvice.com.au/707919/2019-kia-rio-gt-line-rev…
I like them, feels more premium and better to drive than most in the class, and 5 year unlimited km warranty.
The dry clutch DQ200 7 speed auto is rubbish, especially in city traffic. As along term proposition it will be a money pit.
The engine is OK but some versions suffer from cam chain stretch (different from the dud cam chain tensioners in the bigger EA888 blocks).
The interiors are nice and they handle well.
My VW based product has been great and I'd buy another but there are some nightmare stories out there.
When my ex got redundancy in 2016 and had to buy a car I pointed her towards a Kia Cerato Hatch. It was <$18k d/a new with auto and the media centre upgrade. 7 years warranty, capped price service and 7 years roadside assist were hard to look past for a brand new car. They use about 2l/100km more than the polo but what u spend in fuel you will save in repairs.
As a short person, the seats in Polos are horrible. YMMV.
Genuine curiosity.
(I grew up thinking <6ft is short for men. Kinda still sticks.)
I am thinking of getting a new Polo right now. I had a look on VW website and it is listed for $22500 at the moment. I was wondering how you managed to get the $18000 price last year? Was it a promotion or did you bargain hard with the dealer? Thanks
Dieselgate.