when tiger grounded 2 weeks ago, and they start selling ticket for the week after, they get warning from ACCC.
however when jetstar start selling ticket to china where they are still waiting chinese government approval, i didn't hear any noise from ACCC.
ACCC should banned any airlines that selling ticket that are still not getting the government approval.
ACCC hypocrite
joannatan on 14/07/2011 - 10:01
Last edited 14/07/2011 - 10:39
Last edited 14/07/2011 - 10:39
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Should ACCC stop all airlines from selling tickets because a volcano might erupt next month? It's all a question of probability. If Jetstar has pretty much got the deal in the bag, I don't see the problem. On the other hand, it was also pretty certain that CASA would take a long time to investigate Tiger.
BTW, do you sit around all day reading newspapers and finding things to get upset over? You need a life. :)
From the title I thought the post was going to be about this story:
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Guy-fough…
What Jetstar are doing and what Tiger are doing are for completely different reasons.
Try to think about the real reason why they would warn Tiger, and why it doesn't make sense for them to warn Jetstar…
You can get anything out of the Chinese government for a bribe anyway, so Jetstar have nothing to worry about.
If you haven't realised, for all new routes, airlines always states "subject to regulatory approval", regardless of whether it's a LCC or a major airline.
I don't see why the ACCC will or should investigate.
so if tiger at that time mentioned on their website subject to CASA lifting the banned then they can sell their ticket online as well? i mean as long as tiger got the warning then all legitimate?
ok. another thing, when jetstar didn't do maintenance on their 4 aircraft, why CASA not do the same thing to jetstar?
hi guys, just accept the fact, this is hypocrite. 4 aircraft, i can understand only 1.
yeah they are different airline, 1 is foreign company airline, 1 is australia airline. that is the different. and that is the fact either you like it or not. ACCC & CASA are hypocrite that is another fact.
Actually, yes. It proves that you do not read the news and just assumed that CASA banned them from selling tickets.
Tiger was allowed to continue selling tickets while under investigation.
ACCC issue was with the fact that they did not notify customers that "flights will only depart subject to clearance by CASA".Tiger thought that it was too messy to do so, and therefore decided to stop ticket sales instead. To answer your question, "as long as tiger got the warning then all legitimate?", YES!!!
As for Jetstar, maintenance isn't considered a "major issue" because it doesn't technically make the plane less safe. There wasn't much of a safety issue involved.
And read the news carefully, Tiger was grounded for ongoing safety issues and concerns, not just the 2 incidents you mentioned. You are oversimplifying the issue.
Also, understand that CASA's job is NOT to ground planes.
Do note the CASA has grounded an AUSSIE airline before, and resulted in the airline collapsing (Search: Ansett).maintenance is not major issue? mate, if your car is break down is okay, coz you can call towing car to get your break down car to the mechanic shop. but if your airplane is breakdown in the air, you dead mate. don't underestimate the regular maintenance on the aircraft.
a month ago i have training and meet with one guy that working in the aircraft maintenance, he told me that aircraft also got standard warranty from the manufacture, that's mean the aircraft will be in good condition in certain period of time, and normally passenger aircraft need properly regular service especially the aircraft that use as LLC, as they flown a lot than standard airline.when the airplane is flying or landing there are different pressure on the airplane structure, similar like human diaphragm, it is expand and back to normal, it create metal fatigue. that's why the need properly maintenance, as in the maintenance they check this stuff, if you missed this maintenance, anything can happen to the airplane at anytime.
regular maintenance from 5000, 10000 and 20000 hrs, when you do this regular maintenance, sometime it has to be out of service from 1 -3 months.if this maintenance is not a major issue, why bother send this to maintenance? and they said they overlook about this. mate if one airplane is okay over look, but 4 airplane? hmm my logic won't said this is overlook rather than cut the cost.
I didn't say it wasn't an issue. It just isn't as major as Tiger's. Neither did I say that maintenance isn't a problem.
Think of it this way, if Jetstar didn't mention their missed maintenance, no one will know about it anyway. And it wouldn't even be reported in the news as it's not new-worthy in the first place. The only reason why Jetstar appeared in the news is because of the Tiger debacle.There are hundreds of near-misses, landing problems, maintenance issues every year. But you don't see the news reporting most of them. It's only when a major issue happens, like Tiger's case or a plane crash, when the news starts reporting, and fear mongering starts. Then ironically, all these other incidents come to light.
All airline would have unreported incidents in the past few years, you might as well ask CASA to ban all airlines and shut down all airport."As for Jetstar, maintenance isn't considered a "major issue" because it doesn't technically make the plane less safe. There wasn't much of a safety issue involved." ?????
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I didn't say it wasn't an issue."so it is an issue or not????
if casa really independent, all company that involve that near missed should be investigate and grounded. mate you can't have one policy for local airlines and other policy with other airlines. casa said the main reason they grounded coz they lost confident with Tiger pilot training, hmmm how about that near missed you mentioned before, near missed has a higher chance to be crash.
oh yeah talking about Ansett, do you think Ansett is Australia company? it is not, 50% own by NZ.
so the statistic so far non australia airlines is grounded = 100%, non australia airlines = 0% ?????
don't tell me how good australia airlines are, remember how many near crash qantas have last year? and do you remember about 747 that Qantas bought from MAS and the body of the aircraft got the crack? how can you missed the inspection? why CASA not grounded this airlines? because their engineer not properly do their job? ohhh yeah the answer is because this is australia airlines.
so is it hypocrite or not?
the fact is yes, but most people love to said noIs your english really that bad?
"I didn't say it wasn't an issue. It just isn't as major as Tiger's." = An issue but not that major.
"As for Jetstar, maintenance isn't considered a major issue"
= An issue but not that major."There wasn't much of a safety issue involved."
= A safety issue, BUT NOT MAJOR.I can probably assume you are going to reply again "so it is an issue or not????".
sure, i should reply ur comment.
how do you know this is not a major? are certified engineer from them that can guarantee this is not a major issue? lol
How much doubt is there that they will/will not get approval?
If it's highly likely approval will be given, then I don't see the problem.
Having said that, I didn't have a problem with Tiger selling tickets either.. PROVIDED they very clearly warn people that they may not be able to fly (just in case someone was living under a rock and hadn't already heard).