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Seagate IronWolf 8TB NAS (ST8000VN004 or ST8000VN0022) $287.20 + Delivery ($0 w/Plus) @ Computer Alliance eBay

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Seagate IronWolf 8TB NAS (ST8000VN004 or ST8000VN0022) $287.20 + Delivery ($0 w/Plus) @ Computer Alliance eBay
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jace88 on 26/09/2019 - 09:31 ebay.com.au (1524 clicks)
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For those who prefer Ironwolfs over WD Reds for their NAS storage needs, this is the cheapest Seagate Ironwolf 8TB drive (ST8000VN004) I can find currently at $287.20 after coupon code from Computer_Alliance. It was previously about $270 in July but I haven't seen any other great prices on this drive recently. The previous revision of the same 8TB Ironwolf drive ST8000VN0022 is also available at the same price: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8TB-Seagate-3-5-7200rpm-SATA-Iro…

Bang for buck comparison, this works out to be $35.90 per TB which is the cheapest amongst the 6-12TB NAS drives at Computer_Alliance. Interestingly despite some people claiming price jacking, I noted the Ironwolf drives went down by $15-$20 since when I did my spreadsheet analysis a few days ago comparing all the IronWolfs and Reds from 6TB to 12TB.

Name Model Size (TB) Computer_Alliance Less 20% Price per TB URL
Seagate IronWolf 6TB ST6000VN0033 6 285 228 38 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/6TB-Seagate-3-5-7200rpm-SATA-IronWolf-NAS-HDD-PN-ST6000VN0033/173370988028
WD Red 6TB WD60EFAX 6 299 239.2 39.86666667 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/6TB-WD-3-5-SATA-6Gb-s-Red-HDD-PN-WD60EFAX/173849836293
Seagate IronWolf 8TB ST8000VN004 8 359 287.2 35.9 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8TB-Seagate-3-5-7200rpm-SATA-IronWolf-NAS-HDD-PN-ST8000VN004/173939130360
WD Red 8TB WD80EFAX 8 379 303.2 37.9 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8TB-WD-3-5-SATA-6Gb-s-Red-HDD-PN-WD80EFAX/173487313953
WD Red 10TB WD100EFAX 10 459 367.2 36.72 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/10TB-WD-3-5-SATA-6Gb-s-Red-HDD-PN-WD100EFAX/172828562052
Seagate IronWolf 10TB ST10000VN0004 10 479 383.2 38.32 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/10TB-Seagate-3-5-7200rpm-SATA-Ironwolf-NAS-HDD-PN-ST10000VN0004/172680995724
WD Red Pro 10TB WD101KFBX 10 599 479.2 47.92 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/10TB-WD-3-5-7200rpm-SATA-6Gb-s-RED-Pro-HDD-PN-WD101KFBX/172793127511
Seagate IronWolf 12TB ST12000VN0008 12 639 511.2 42.6 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12TB-Seagate-3-5-7200rpm-SATA-IronWolf-HDD-PN-ST12000VN0008/173917052835
Seagate IronWolf Pro 12TB ST12000NE0008 12 769 615.2 51.26666667 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12TB-Seagate-3-5-7200rpm-SATA-IronWolf-Pro-HDD-PN-ST12000NE0008/173917052883

Original Coupon Deal

If you're looking for WD Reds, refer to deal posted by O O > https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/485824

Thanks to potplanty for pointing out that there is an updated version of the Iron Wolf 8TB drive for the same price at Computer_Alliance. Previously I had posted ST8000VN0022. This has been updated above, but note that there may be other revisions to the drives available (but I didn't get a chance to check every capacity).

UPDATE VN004 is out of stock, so I have updated the description to also reference ST8000VN0022 which is same drive but previous revision.

UPDATE 28/9/19 VN004 is back in stock.

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  • Tacooo on 26/09/2019 - 09:33
    +8

    Far out Jace, very nice post. Formatting is top notch. If I wasn't going on holiday soon I'd definitely blow the budget on another 16TB.

    • Click_It on 26/09/2019 - 09:35

      For a split second I thought you meant a 16TB HDD :)

      Yes great post!

      • Tacooo on 26/09/2019 - 09:43
        +1

        If they make them I will buy them. 40TB is nice and all but I'd like to bump that up to 80TB.

        • Click_It on 26/09/2019 - 09:45

          I hear you, waiting to upgrade my 12 x 4TB to a handful of 12TB drives. Just waiting for the price to drop a little further.

          It's a shame there's been no price movement of capacities above that.

          • Tacooo on 26/09/2019 - 09:54

            @Click_It: To be fair (insert Letterkenny joke) anything above that is usually considered enterprise grade and they know business will pay what they tell them to.

    • jace88 on 26/09/2019 - 09:36
      +10

      Thanks. I have to admit I cheated and found a link to http://www.tablesgenerator.com/markdown_tables in the OzBargain formatting Wiki somewhere… and you can simply copy paste Excel tables directly in and it'll generate it for you! (makes me think we should promote this more often).

      For those interested in price comparisons with the 22/9 price list posted previously on OzBargain (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11bNZsjngsabcqLjK-prY…) :

      Name Model 22/09/2019 26/09/2019 Difference
      Seagate IronWolf 6TB ST6000VN0033 299 285 -14
      WD Red 6TB WD60EFAX 299 299 0
      Seagate IronWolf 8TB ST8000VN0022 359 359 0
      WD Red 8TB WD80EFAX 379 379 0
      WD Red 10TB WD100EFAX 459 459 0
      Seagate IronWolf 10TB ST10000VN0004 499 479 -20
      WD Red Pro 10TB WD101KFBX 599 599 0
      Seagate IronWolf 12TB ST12000VN0008 659 639 -20
      Seagate IronWolf Pro 12TB ST12000NE0008 769 769 0
      • Click_It on 26/09/2019 - 09:37

        Wow all these years here, never knew that.

      • Tacooo on 26/09/2019 - 09:37
        +3

        I'd suggest updating the post with this though. The ST8000VN0022 is the older model while the ST8000VN004 is newer, more power friendly and the same price. Link here.

        I would assume they have the new models in other sizes too.

        • jace88 on 26/09/2019 - 09:42

          Thanks for that. I need to run so I only updated for the 8TB model but I'll make a mention in the bottom of the post in case anyone is interested.

    • Shaun Prawn on 26/09/2019 - 14:57
      +1

      Just curious, what do people use this much storage for? Is it work/business related? Or is it personal use, media, gaming etc?

      • Tacooo on 26/09/2019 - 17:13

        I have ~1.5TB of Steam backups and another 500GB of other game service backups.

        ~200GB of photos.

        ~200GB of music.

        ~5TB of movies.

        ~5TB of TV shows.

        ~150GB of random operating systems and applications.

        ~300GB of personal file backups (images, documents etc).

        And a tonne of other stuff I can't remember currently. Then I have full, uncompressed clones of those disks. So 40TB is really 20TB.

        • Shaun Prawn on 26/09/2019 - 20:44

          Wow!

          I used to keep all movies and TV shows, had maybe 3TB worth. But then one day I went through everything and was thinking, will I really ever rewatch any of this? I don't even have anywhere near enough time to consume all of the new and future releasing entertainment that I want to let alone stuff I've already experienced. And I just went on a massive rampage deleting so much stuff. It was kinda hard to do, but it felt kinda relieving in a strange way afterwards. There was some classic movies and series I kept but.

          I do however have a 5TB drive over 3/4 full of just PS4 games. Sadly, the majority of which I have never even got around to playing.

          Anyways, was just curious how one could use so much storage. And what you said makes sense. Especially the backing up of everything. I recently had an SSD fail completely and couldn't get anything off it. There was nothing too major lost, but a few things I wish I had backed up but hadn't.

          • jace88 on 26/09/2019 - 22:17
            +2

            @Shaun Prawn: I feel the same way but I'm a bit of a hoarder. My inability to watch currently as we are trying to keep TV/screen time to a minimum with our newborn in the apartment is what I ended up deciding meant I shouldn't upgrade the NAS yet and just wait for new models.

            That being said, I tried using some of the media indexation tools on my slightly older DS216j NAS and it's pretty cool how it catalogues it all. It feels like you're browsing a Netflix type interface but of your own media.

      • jace88 on 26/09/2019 - 22:16
        +1

        Personal media
        - family photos/videos; recently bought a DSLR and the photos are quite large. Videos especially at 4K are also growing rapidly.
        - photos from my childhood until now; I've somehow managed to keep a lot of them
        - professional photos from our 2 weddings (these are 60gb alone) + videos

        Some documents
        - business/finance documents like statements, bills, etc…

        Backups of data and File History for our 5 computers

        Backups of software that I've purchased over the years (i.e. the installers)

        And of course various media ;)

        • KLoNe on 04/10/2019 - 20:01

          Two weddings? LAWL!

          • jace88 on 05/10/2019 - 00:48

            @KLoNe: Yep. Her hometown and mine. And then the various photo shoots etc at both locations as well as where we were living at the time (in neither of our hometowns).

  • Quarn on 26/09/2019 - 11:39
    +3

    Great post,
    Just going to paste this in here for anyone researching HD reliability, Backblaze generate these reports and are worth a read.
    https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-stats-for-2018/

    • nfr on 26/09/2019 - 12:10

      Well the good ones are so expensive

  • vee124 on 26/09/2019 - 12:49
    +1

    Or for those willing to shuck, $229.47 for WD Elements Desktop Hard Drive 8TB. $28.63/TB from Amazon

    • jace88 on 26/09/2019 - 13:30

      I was originally planning to shuck (since I shucked for my desktop PC) but after reading up on the whole NAS-HDD benefits which some would say is BS, I thought I'd rather not risk my data.

      • Quarn on 26/09/2019 - 13:51
        +1

        I had 3 drives fail in a week, then I learned about harmonics and will only use NAS drives now. Not worth the grief.

        • nfr on 26/09/2019 - 14:06

          Were the failed HDDs in a NAS box or PC case?

          • Quarn on 26/09/2019 - 16:34

            @nfr: PC case, they were mounted on rubber grommets.

            • nfr on 26/09/2019 - 17:39

              @Quarn: That sucks. I've always thought my low fail rate is due to good case and PSU, but maybe I've just been lucky with these WD greens and whites.

        • jace88 on 05/10/2019 - 00:49

          Curious which models they were!

  • SamyKn on 26/09/2019 - 13:44

    Damn :(

    On Monday i bought two 6TB WD RED for 283 each….ffffffffffffffff…..I haven't opened the grey plastic yet, is there any chance for refund?

    • jace88 on 26/09/2019 - 13:46
      +1

      Who did you buy it from? Check the return policies.

      If it was Amazon I would've said they have (at least for me) price matched the new price and given me a discount/rebate for future purchases for the difference.

      • SamyKn on 26/09/2019 - 13:48

        No mate , it was ebay :(
        you recon i give it a try?

        • jace88 on 26/09/2019 - 13:48
          +1

          Check the merchant and see if they accept returns or not, and whether it'll cost you anything to return it.

          • SamyKn on 26/09/2019 - 13:52
            +1

            @jace88: Thanks mate for your help, i just checked
            They accept return if un-opened , will give it a shot:)

  • roh008 on 26/09/2019 - 14:15

    I find my IronWolf Drives run hotter than my WDRed drives, anyone else found this?

    • Tacooo on 26/09/2019 - 14:20
      +1

      That's expected. They run faster. 5400RPM vs 7200RPM.

      • roh008 on 26/09/2019 - 14:43

        oh yes, I didn't think about that.

        I have two in a N40L NAS and 2 in my Fractal Designs case - i'm struggling to keep low temps in the NAS so will probably have to consider a bigger NAS box for better cooling. But the IronWolf Drives look to have lower failure rates compared to the WD Reds!

        • Tacooo on 26/09/2019 - 17:15

          Bear in mind that the WD drives also don't have enough data from Backblaze to do a proper comparison but based on the current numbers alone, you're right. Seagate got a bad rep after a bad batch of drives a few years ago (plus issues during Fukushima) and people enjoy hanging onto old information and using it to bash a product/company.

  • jace88 on 26/09/2019 - 14:25

    I keep debating over whether to buy 2x8TB drives or not, but the issue I have is whether I want to upgrade my existing 2 bay DS216j now (which has 2x3TB HGST 7200rpm drives) or in the future to a 4 bay. I liked the DS918+ which is on sale now, but given it's only one generation ahead of my old one and is 2 years old already, I feel like I may as well wait a bit longer since DS216j is going strong and the only issue is I keep hitting the warning that I have <20% free space remaining.

    Whilst the obvious solution is buy 2x8TB drives, chuck them in (let RAID rebuild it) and hold onto the 2x3TB HGST drives for the future (and use SHR then to create a nice big storage pool), I believe this may be an issue if I start having too much data on the NAS when it comes time to migrate to anything other than a j/value series (since you can't just do a HDD migration). Thoughts?

    • garetz on 26/09/2019 - 14:39

      The 8tb drive is the best $ per tb atm for a drive that isnt shucked, if you look at staticice, its basically the cheapest possible price available, and thats not taking the 20% discount into consideration, so with the discount it is the cheapest disk in australia per tb without shucking for likely the last 12 months.

      • jace88 on 26/09/2019 - 15:01

        True.

        I was just wondering if maybe I can just use a portable USB drive to store those videos (nothing important/critical hence no need for them to be on internal RAID) and whether Video Station will be able to index/mount those videos and make them accessible through DS Video and other DLNA devices on my network. Has anyone tried?

        • lammi on 26/09/2019 - 16:50

          I tried to do exactly that and I don't think that is possible. but I will try again tonight.

  • [Deactivated] on 26/09/2019 - 20:50

    cheaper to get a WD element and shrunk it

  • theBestBastion on 26/09/2019 - 20:52

    :( 8TB IronWolf OOS …

    • jace88 on 26/09/2019 - 21:43

      If you don't mind the older revision of the 8TB IronWolf (ST8000VN0022), that's still available: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8TB-Seagate-3-5-7200rpm-SATA-Iro…

      • theBestBastion on 26/09/2019 - 22:06

        Was wondering which one to buy, IronWolf or Red, now IronWolf, new IronWolf or Red …

        • jace88 on 26/09/2019 - 22:08

          I would've gone IronWolf regardless, but reading this makes me think there's a whole lot of nothing in differences between the revisions.

          https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/interpreting-seag…

          • zzsprade on 27/09/2019 - 07:46
            +1

            @jace88: Great post jace88 - as always the detail is very much appreciated.

            I just noticed that there may be a very subtle difference between the two. It appears that the new revision has gone back to 3 mounting holes on the sides of the drive.

            It is only minor, but having screw less trays that require the slide to have this mounting point available is a pain.

          • theBestBastion on 27/09/2019 - 18:04
            +1

            @jace88: Thanks @jace88, I bought 2 x VN0022.

  • jace88 on 28/09/2019 - 12:47

    Looks like VN004 is back in stock!

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