Materials : High quality aluminum alloy + High quality stainless steel
Complete with an easy to carry case. It can be used to open many different types of lock, a perfect tool for professional locksmiths.
Original tools set, from Product: 1056584
For education and novelty purposes
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Which one?
The novelty item, or the tool for pros?
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A set like this with picks that equate to around $1.60 cents each put this kit in the beginner/hobyist category.
the hard bit is being able to pick a lock, it’s more about skill than the quality of the tool, for most people it’s probably the novelty of being able to pick a lock and showing friends.
if you have locked yourself out of your house, you probably have the picks inside the house anyway.
these are for std lockwood type house locks, and pad locks, not your modern car door locks
Locksmiths have to learn somehow.
I need this for reasons.
Ebay has some reasonable alternatives for similar price.
Better off getting some decent picks.Try Sparrows or the like.
Or using on someone elses lock so when it breaks a tip its not your issue.
Can anyone vouch for the quality?
If it's from China then they use cheap Chinese steel.
Made out of “cheap” Australian iron ore? ;D
Ouch! ;D
The LockPickingLawyer from youtube has reviewed a few of these sets.
E.g. https://youtu.be/FyUcXeO16XM
Basically, they aren’t totally crap, however the takeaway is that there’s probably only one or two picks in the set that you will actually use. He rates it as “highly recommended” (for the price)
Nice name
You wouldnt be able to find a better set for <$20 delivered.
These can take down 99% of regular locks.
For education and novelty purposes
i have a chinese lock pick set, and an american one. yes, you only use a few of the picks, but i guess these things are cheap to make so bigger is easier to sell. have several sets as i use them so rarely they are hard to find when needed, but like all tools they save you paying a trades person if you even use just once, so you get them from china when not in a hurry.
yes takes practice to pick a lock, and it’s not like in the movies. you might also want to get a transparent practice lock.
my chinese ones are also stainless steel blades, nothing cheap or bad about the blades, handles vary from brand to brand and my USA ones have nicer handles, unless you are professional using these daily, you will never wear a set out.
i also found it handy to extract broken keys, and a few non lock related tasks where i need long thin metal blades.
Thanks OP. Christmas holidays sorted.
So many banned items, even sex toys, but not this one.
Lol the case literally has “Honest” in big red letters on the front. Should help explain things to the nice police officer.
Spend a little more and get a better quality set, and get a plastic see thru padlock to practice on (still has the metal pins and springs inside). It's a very useful accessory to learn on as you can see the actual pins of the lock you are trying to manipulate.
For those concerned about legalities, there's a good summary here: https://www.lockpicksaustralia.com.au/lock-picking/legality/
Long story short, perfectly fine to use in your own home and on your own goods. Not fine if you are 'going equipped' out in public.
Lockpicking can be competitive and is a legitimate hobby. It can also educate you on the type of locks you should be buying, vs the type of cheap locks that most people buy and don't really secure anything at all. It's quite scary how easy it is to pick most cheap locks. I bought a previous set advertised here a few years back. Every now and again I'll take it out and 'solve it' like a Rubicks Cube, trying different cheap locks I've bought around the place. It's actually quite fun. But commonsense on when and how you carry these things is obviously required.
So, in general, the more you pay for a lock, the harder it is to pick?
Sometimes I think with expensive locks you're just paying for quality materials, i.e. harder to smash open or cut through with a hacksaw, grinder or bolt cutters. Some of those cheap Chinese padlocks (sorry Aldi), even the big ones, can easily pop open if you hit the side of the case with a hammer.
It's quite overwhelming these days the number of so-called quality brands on the market, e.g. Kaba, Brava, Carbine, etc. I'm old school so just stick to Lockwood, Abus and Whitco, which may not be the best, but have a fairly good reputation. But I guess if you really value what you're locking, buy your locks from a locksmith, and let them recommend a lock that fits your purpose and budget.
Nope… expensive doesn't always mean best.
The best locks (in terms of being the hardest to pick) are the ones where the pins aren't all conveniently aligned on one plane like typical keys/locks. Double teethed security keys (the keys that look like a U when you look down the teeth line are very good, as are keys that look like a star picket (tooth lines going different directions), and also those key locks you used to find on club locks, where the keys have dimples on both sides.
Other than lock material (which you've mentioned) the lock design is also very important. A terrific lock barrel on a padlock means nothing if the shackle (the U part) is overly exposed to cutting. A protected shackle is very important. Also lock shape is important.
For instance, check out this lock:
https://www.abus.com/eng/Home-Security/Padlocks/Diskus-R/Dis…
Protected and hardened shackle, complicated key/barrel, german quality materials and workmanship.
The LockPickingLawyer can't pick it. Very very difficult lock to pick compared to other disc locks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm8p4CmeOfk
And in regards to cutting it with a bolt cutter good luck getting any purchase on it when combined with a suitable hinge attachment.
Also very difficult to bash at it because it doesn't have a big box with a nice flat surface to hit.
$80 on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com.au/ABUS-20-80-Stainless-Different/dp/…
A good lock doesn't have to cost hundreds of dollars.
But most of the locks under $50 from Bunnings aren't worth the money at all. There are some exceptions, but generally they have a completely exposed shackle that make the lock pointless and for deterrent only. Others 'look' like a Abus Diskus, but the barrel is weak.
There's some nice protected shackle options, but again the barrel is the weak point and can be picked by good lockpicks (beyond my skill level but that's not hard :)).
Long story short, I strongly suggest anyone curious about your actual security levels when it comes to locks (front door, padlocks etc), watch some videos from the LockPickingLawyer on Youtube. Your thoughts on 'adequate security' will go out the window.
Most locks these days are deterrent only.
If you've ever locked yourself out of the car or house and called a locksmith, you'll see how quick they can get in. Like scary quick.
Thanks for that. Nice info to know. I've made a note of your recommendations.
On a side note: Quite a few years ago, my house got broken into. They smashed a window to get in and carried my stuff out through the same window. They unsuccessfully tried to jemmy open (with a large screwdriver it seems) the Lockwood double deadlocks on the front and back doors. Which meant they stole a lot less than they wanted to. Cops said they were 'amateurs' because pro housebreakers would have smashed open the deadlocks in seconds. House is alarmed now with security cameras - for what it's worth.
@Ozpit: Yep… that's the physical mechanism of a deadbolt. Most house theft is by smash and grab opportunists. Crims won't bother picking two sets of locks (normal and deadbolt).
You're lucky they didn't break through a sliding glass door to take out the bigger items.
To be honest though, once someone has already gained access to my house- I'd rather they take my old tv's as I'd be more than happy for a upgrade. In most cases though tv's are too big, and smash and grabs are more about anything that'll fit in a backpack and two arms.
Is this the same set that Ocean’s 11 used? Heading to Vegas soon.
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So which is it ???