I just got a text message this morning and went to a Best Friends Store in VIC to confirm. It was right!
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30% off All Full Priced Royal Canin Pet Food @ Best Friends
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In what product?
In almost every product
Eg labrador adult
Ingredients: dehydrated poultry protein, rice, wheat, maize, maize gluten, animal fats, vegetable protein isolate*,You pay top dollar and get rice, corn, corn gluten. Overpriced for the ingredients.
Almost every dog kibble has similar ingredients. However they introduce "science" by letting us believe that different kibble sizes and shapes are important for the dogs benefit
Every product? I can't find detailed ingredient amounts on the few I've looked at - apart from broad category % (eg protein etc) - so I think your claim is questionable. I do know that some vets recommend RC for (some) cats for example, as part of a balanced (and easily controlled) diet. So far so good from what I've seen. Like human packaged food it's handy for people who can't organise a balanced diet for their animals. That said, in general I agree that packaged pet food is expensive for what you get. But I'm no expert, just an observer of anecdotal evidence.
@[Deactivated]: I’ll assuming u r not trolling
Where exactly r u looking, that you can’t find ingredients ?
This information is freely available yet you can’t seem to find itLet’s help you out here
Go to petcircle.com.au
Type in royal canin
You will get heaps of options
Choose any eg Labrador/ daschund/ boxer etc
Click on the nutrition tabPlease do your research and let me then know if you have changed your opinion
If some vets recommended RC, it’s because the food is made by a multinational company, that can offer incentives to promote their product
Yes packaged pet food is expensive, but for the price you pay for royal canin/ hills science etc there are heaps of better packaged foods available
@docians: Not trolling. To save me searching, care to link something which shows % of "corn and cereal" for example? I looked at the cat food which I'm familiar with. They list ingredients and broad category (protein, fat, fibre etc) percentages but NOT % of each ingredient. Are you talking wet or dry food, both presumably?
Interested in what these "better packaged foods" are and why they're better though. Any brands to look for? RC gets lots of nods from vets and other "experts" but I do wonder how our cats and dogs got along so well before the invention of "science food".
@[Deactivated]: You can determine the % in the order these ingredients are listed. Muscle meat is never in the list and if they are, they are not in the first five ingredients.
@Colombian: Usually the order is biggest first I agree (it's mandated) but that doesn't help with actual numbers.
It depends on the product but "(muscle) meat" is listed under meat and animal/fish derivatives, and sometimes as dehydrated poultry/pig/animal/fish protein.
Eg cat Instinctive: Meat and animal derivatives, fish and fish derivatives, vegetable protein extracts, cereals, derivatives of vegetable origin, minerals, various sugars.
Crude ash: 1.5%. Crude fibre: 0.9%. Crude oil fats: 2.8%. Moisture: 0.795%. Protein: 12%.The claims by docian above about corn etc aren't backed up by the ingredient analysis of any of the RC products I've looked at. They may be overpriced and there may be better options (he gave none) but that doesn't justify his comment.
@[Deactivated]: sigh
maize= corn
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maizeroyal canin maxi adult dog
the spiel: Royal Canin Maxi Adult is tailor made to suit the unique nutritional needs of your large breed adult dog
ingredients:dehydrated poultry protein, maize, maize flour, animal fats, wheat, rice, maize gluten
question: do the unique nutritional needs of large breed adult dog include corn, corn flour and corn gluten?
link
https://www.petcircle.com.au/product/royal-canin-maxi-adult-…royal canin adult boxer
the spiel: Royal Canin Boxer Adult is tailor made to suit the unique nutritional needs of your adult Boxer.
https://www.petcircle.com.au/product/royal-canin-boxer-adult…
ingredients: rice, animal fats, dehydrated poultry protein, maize, vegetable protein isolate
I suppose every adult boxer has unique nutrional need of corn just like the unique nutritional need of the labradorroyal canin kitten
the spiel Royal Canin Kitten is tailor made to support the nutritional needs of your growing kitten.
https://www.petcircle.com.au/product/royal-canin-kitten-dry-…ingredients: dehydrated poultry protein, rice, vegetable protein isolate*, animal fats, maize, hydrolysed animal proteins, maize gluten
Every growing kitten as per RC nutrionally needs corn and corn gluten
royal canin adult maine coon
https://www.petcircle.com.au/product/royal-canin-maine-coon-…
the spiel: Royal Canin Maine Coon Adult is tailor made to suit the unique nutritional needs of your adult Maine Coon cat.
ingredients
dehydrated poultry protein, rice, maize, animal fats, vegetable protein isolate*, maize glutenUnsurprisingly RC believes the unique nutrional needs of adult cats should include corn and corn gluten which no self respecting adult maine coon cat should go without
Now if I had an adult dog his RC formula would include
rice, animal fats, dehydrated poultry protein, maize, vegetable protein isolateand the adult cat formula would include
dehydrated poultry protein, rice, maize, animal fats, vegetable protein isolate*, maize glutenI don't know but there is nothing unique in either formula
DOG: rice, animal fats, dehydrated poultry protein, maize, vegetable protein isolate
CAT: dehydrated poultry protein, rice, maize, animal fats, vegetable protein isolate*, maize gluteninfact looking at the main ingredients they are almost the same!
(in fairness the cat formula has corn gluten, but the dog one doesn't)The claims by docian above about corn etc aren't backed up by the ingredient analysis of any of the RC products I've looked at
no clue as to what products you are looking at
maybe my troll meter is not functioning :)@docians: Suggest you read what you originally wrote. It's right there at the top. I'm not suggesting corn and cereals aren't ingredients (no point, the lists are there for every product), nor would I suggest they aren't worthwhile. They may be there for filler (important if you understand animals - esp labradors) and/or balanced nutritional reasons.
Most of the above examples suggest protein (inc dehydrated animal protein) is THE major component. You can read why it's dehydrated on the RC FAQs. The first example is Protein: 26% - Fat content: 17% - Crude ash: 6.6% - Crude fiber: 1.3% - Per kg: Omega3 fatty acids: 7.8 g including EPA/DHA: 4 g; dehydrated poultry protein, maize, maize flour, animal fats, wheat, rice, maize gluten
Moving on though. What alternatives do you recommend?
Suggest you read what you originally wrote. It's right there at the top
Have you never heard of ingredient splitting?
You just need to search it up
Oh I forgot you don't like searching, so here is a link which might explain what Royal Canin likes to use corn, corn gluten and corn flour to mislead gullible folks into believing that meat is the first ingredient
https://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-industry-exposed/ing…
I stand by what I said, Royal Canin is an overpriced food and you end up paying top dollar for corn and cereal. Forget dogs, they even give cats the identical combination yet proclaim that is tailored for your pets "individual needs"
You can choose to believe their claims or the truth.
Over and out
@docians: Ingredient splitting info was interesting, thanks. Eeven so it seems to me you're suggesting they lie barefaced about their ingredients and %, risking big fines and their reputation. Pays to be skeptical of anonymous skeptics in my experience - the internet is replete with wallies claiming they know more than experts and running down companies they know sfa about. Did you read about the importance of filler in the diet of many cats and dogs? In the end it's the chemical balance and analysis which counts (along with convenience and cost obviously), not (necessarily) where those chemicals come from. Plenty of humans get their nutrition from corn, lentils…They key with animals, esp cats, is to make the product to their taste and smell, and to suit any underlying gut problems.
Still waiting for the list of those pet foods you reckon are way better.
@[Deactivated]: Do you know cats have a shorter gastrointestinal tract that is not able to process carbs in an efficient way the same way humans and herbivores do?
Cats don't chew the same way as humans and for this reason fillers are not good for them, name it corn, wheat, beans. What chemical balance are you talking about if you can enlighten me?
Do you want way better pet foods, look at Feline Naturals and Ziwi Peak.
@Colombian: @ Colombian
I am not a cat person but aren’t they carnivores?Yet if you believe Royal Canin’s spiel, it is nutritionally tailored for an individual cat’s needs
ie as per RC’s BS rice, corn, corn gluten are all good for a cats needs!
Sadly people chose to believe the BS claims on the front of the pack, and label us anonymous sceptics :)
@docians: Yes, they are carnivores. My cat only eats balanced raw food that I prepare and complement with Feline Naturals when I'm too lazy to prepare a batch.
@Colombian: Interesting
So you don't feed your cat rice/ wheat or corn?
Do you disagree with the clever folks at Royal Canin who seem to think it should be part of every cat's diet and charge top dollar for that privilege
@docians: Cats will eat many things, including plants, dairy, insects, artificial jellies…. Smell is their key. Frankly I think you rate your knowledge far too highly. RC may be overpriced but I'll back their science and veterinary opinion against your anecdote every day of the week. My guess is that if a dog/cat is healthy and not overweight most vets will say stick to what you're doing.
@[Deactivated]: During an annual check up you can't tell if your cat is having renal issues due to eating Royal Canin or those other science diet food.
It is known that renal failure is a very common health issue in cats. It happens mostly when they eat dry food as cats tend to drink little water.
I suggest you to watch the documentary called Pet Fooled on Netflix if you haven't done so.
@Colombian: Please. Cats have had renal issues for eons, long before modern per food was available. The dried food link is common knowledge. Do you have stats which show cats on RC or similar are less healthy than others? Small sample obviously but I've seen the huge improvement my daughters cats made with RC as part of their diet. It's possible that they may have had similar outcomes with other food but the simple fact is they've done well on RC. One of them doesn't like one particular RC pouch but that's the thing with cats, they're quite finicky. Back in the day the only tinned food my cat would eat was Snappy Tom.
@Colombian: Chemical balance - the right proportions of protein, carbs, minerals and vitamins…
Although my comment about fillers related more to dogs I'm interested in any evidence you have which suggests "fillers" are bad for cats. My daughter's rescue cats both had gastro issues. Vets suggested she try RC or similar for two reasons: choice of "styles" (with jelly/gravy etc) and consistent, balanced ingredients of same; and ease of portioning. The RC packets are just a part of their diet obviously.
I'll pass your suggestions on but since her cats' problems have settled my guess is she won't want to change and risk a return to the bad old days.
RC is a sh！t brand
30% off RRP, so pretty much the everyday price at Pet Circle, Budget Pet Products etc.
Not really. Most of the time you gotta buy a lot online or have to pay extra shipping.
For an example the Adult cat dry food I got is $34.21 + $6.95 shipping (no shipping fee orders over $120)
online on Pet Circle (unless you do auto delivery every now and then, then it's ok)
https://www.petcircle.com.au/product/royal-canin-persian-adu…But at Best friends it was 32.19! So it was worth it for me.
Royal canin is an overpriced petfood
For your dollar you get mostly corn and cereal