Hi, guys another part denying liability saying both cars merged at the same time please check the video and let me know who is at fault?
PS It is Subaru not Mazda
Update - Liability is accepted by the other insurance.
[Solved] Who Is at Fault? Lane Merging - Dash Cam Footage Provided
agam2104 on 05/08/2019 - 00:28
Last edited 09/08/2019 - 02:37 by 2 other users
Last edited 09/08/2019 - 02:37 by 2 other users
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- 519Blue Mazda
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got knocked off my motorcycle thanks to a car changing in to me on Punt Road. People really struggle with that road.
Talk about a lack of defensive driving. If I was gonna complete my merge that late behind a ute when I can clearly see the other car indicating, I would have rather stayed in between both lanes and hogged it just to be safe so remaining in both lanes AFTER rather than BEFORE like OP taking an eternity to go into that lane.
Maybe the insurance company was worried that OP purposely wanted to get hit for insurance claim.
You do realise that a lane change should be done safely and smoothly and not like the other car did it?
You do realise that the OP took waay too long to merge right?
All I'm saying is if OP wants to lane hog he might'as well lane hogged the whole way, not move in at the last second to block the lane up and cause some (albeit minor) fault to the accident. He's not 100% fault free.
Driving to suit conditions is the safest in my opinion. OP might'as well stayed in both lanes for a bit longer to give himself extra time to get out of harms way. Some call it defensive driving. Now even if his insurance has agreed to fix up his car, he's effectively got time off to fix car, ex-collision car and whatever else comes with the hassle.
But no - let's just all focus on who's at fault here instead of considering what we can do to make things better.
The point is he could've easily avoided a potential accident. Lesson learnt?
No he didnt. Recommendation is to have your indicator on for 5 seconds before merging in a safe and smooth manner. Just because you merge fast and unsafely doesnt mean its too long.
No he didnt.
No he didn't hog the lane for a log time and then finish merging very late right behind the ute therefore he couldn't have easily avoided his accident? Nice driving mate.
Recommendation is to have your indicator on for 5 seconds before merging in a safe and smooth manner. Just because you merge fast and unsafely doesnt mean its too long.
Not that I at all condone the other driver for an aggresive lane merge but we all saw how long the other car had been indicating, that makes it all ok doesn't it?
I think there's a point here that one driver took way to long and the other not enough time. Both should take some blame.
@H E B: Not sure which video you were watching but the OP waited for the ute to pass and also made sure he left a gap in front. I see nothing wrong with his lane change. Who cares how long the other guy was indicating? He was stationary and had traffic going past him at speed.
@Piranha2004: Mate I'm saying he merges in just as the ute passes and obstructs the blue car's view.
That split second blue car lost and the calculated risk they take is a huge cause of the accident which would've been avoidable if OP had not been merging right then when the blue car can't see them come in is an accident waiting to happen.
Yes the blue car makes a big mistake in pulling out but put yourself in their shoes for a sec, some other person has blocked them off, now they want to pull out into the lane. A possible event could have been:
- Before the white ute passes lane is clear
- they've been eyeing out this lane to come in for a long time and OP is in another lane, quick let's take the chance
- now they assume lane is still clear as it would be difficult to see OPs car behind the ute
- they take what they think is their only chance before another car comes in
- boom, wrong choice.I've maintained all along OP would've been a lot safer not completing a merging maneuver when another car is being blocked, stationary and clearly likely to pull out at any second because there are a lot of crazy drivers around. Why be a hater about this?
Now OP has to deal with damaged car and perhaps not being able to UBER for a few days when risk could've been decreased through more defensive driving.
With hindsight I'm trying to suggest we can learn from this and at the end of the day it's not just about who's wrong or right.
Seeing the vision would you still recommend everyone to drive the same way as the OP knowing that blue car would pull out any second or are there ways we can all learn from this to make our roads safer?
Choices choices. It's clear which I'd do and from the sounds of it maybe it's clear what you'd do.
All good - each to their own brother! Peace out.
Darn Heb I wonder who is out of the loop .
Update - Liability is accepted by the other insurance.
Gotta be something wrong with common sense I guess :)
Hahaha. Righto because common sense always prevails for insurance claims and insurance companies settling claims determines who is at fault once and for all.
People could start with taking more responsibility for themselves on the roads and save us insurance premiums.
Don't you just love Punt Road! If you ask me what do you hate about Melbourne - Punt Road and West gate during peak!