AMD X570 Motherboard prices

Lwannagrababargain on 08/07/2019 - 10:36
Last edited 08/07/2019 - 10:37

So today the 3rd gen Ryzen, 3rd gen AM4 X570 chipset and RX5700 graphis cards are released.

I'm checking out the X570 motherboard prices, there are two "top of the range" boards at over $1100! And it all incrementally flows down from there. $829, $799, $649, $599, $499 etc. Motherboard manufacturer's just taking the p**s now? Each manufacturer has a confusing array of incrementally sliced products. One tier of product might add say "Wifi" over the previous tier for +$150. I know they've always done this but this is the craziest I've seen it. Cheapest possible is $259 which I think is still too high such that it will alienate mid-tier builders who want to build something around the sweet spot say a Ryzen 3700X.

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  • scrimshaw on 08/07/2019 - 10:48

    MSI did say that X570 motherboards will not come cheap.

    "PCIe 4.0, in its first iteration, is expensive to produce. Not only does it require faster switches and more hardware to manage the speed increase to 64 GB/s per 16-lane slot, but the power draw more than triples as well. And speaking of power, Chiang says almost every X570 board will require active VRM cooling, partly because the 12-core CPU will draw more power, but also because AMD wants X570 to have premium features marketed to enthusiasts."

    I think we should expect that sort of prices for motherboards that will have PCIE 4.0 support, if you don't think you'll need PCIE 4.0 you should probably wait till q4 2019 for the mainstream B500-series chipsets to release. I suspect most of us won't have GPU's or SSD's that saturate PCIE 3.0..

    I got the upgrade itch as well but I might actually just drop the 8-core 3700X into my garbage Gigabyte B350 Gaming-3 board to see whether it runs fine, then upgrade in 2020 when lower end boards come on sale.

    • wannagrababargain on 08/07/2019 - 11:04

      Yea the makers have been crowing about how PCIe 4.0 is so expensive leading up the launch, peparing the public for the price shock. Plus I think AMD is probably charging more for their (now in-house) chipset. Considering all of that I can totally understand a baseline price of around $250.

      What I think is egregious is charging $399, $499, $599, $899, $1199 for the 5-6 tiers of "pro" and "super pro" and "godlike pro"…I mean where does it end? They used to stop at $499 as the flagship. Now they're adding 3 more tiers above that. You really have to dig through pages of poorly formatted spec sheets on their websites to decipher the differences until you finally realise that all you're getting for an additional $200 is 4 extra USB ports and a Wifi card!

      I got the upgrade itch as well but I might actually just drop the 8-core 3700X into my garbage Gigabyte B350 Gaming-3 board to see whether it runs fine, then upgrade in 2020 when lower end boards come on sale.

      I think this is what AMD is counting on and spruiking for their AM4 socket. The 3700x is a very attractive price point for people with existing AM4 boards.

  • DarthAntz on 08/07/2019 - 10:49
    +1

    Early bird prices.

    There are enough people out there that jump at new technology without questioning the price, so why not? Worked well for the New Nvidia cards and anything with an apple logo on it.

    Best thing to do is be satisfied with your current rig, and appreciate it even more. Give it a dusting, or a can of air and be content.

  • Rockets84 on 08/07/2019 - 10:50
    +1

    I'm really interested in a Ryzen 3 build but going to wait a little while yet. The Mobo's are too expensive ATM, I don't want most of the extra shit they cram on them these days - RGB, WiFi, Audio, stuff like that. What's with most AMD boards having integrated HDMI, DVI or VGA ports? This is especially true for the gaming orientated boards. Maybe I'm just a grumpy old fart who was building gaming PC's pre 2000 where we had none of that stuff on board.

  • wannagrababargain on 08/07/2019 - 11:17
    +1

    Thinking about this more fundamentally, I believe mobo makers have never really understood the gamer or enthusiast market. Even today they stuff in useless features, made up technology like "X-Fast LAN!" and bundled crapware. Meanwhile when you start pushing the boundaries by using the enthusiast features of the CPU or chipset you start running into motherboard firmware bugs that take months to get fixed if at all. My Z77 board never really implemented VT-d properly.

    Enthusiast don't want crapware, transient pretend technology or yet another RGB system. They want solid, stable and properly implemented features.

    • Rockets84 on 08/07/2019 - 11:48
      +1

      I'd rather just have a plain Intel LAN PHY on board. They are reliable as hell, with great driver support and just work. I go out of way to look for a board with a Intel LAN rather than Killer, Realtek, Broadcom or Marvell. I like the look of the Gigabye X570 Gaming X board which is the cheapest Gigabyte board, but no Intel LAN. The X570 AORUS Elite is the next cheapest Gigabyte board and has Intel LAN. The ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 is the cheapest X570 board I've seen and it does have a Intel LAN but I haven't had good BIOS experience in the past with ASRock. I used to like Asus boards but I think you pay more for the name now and I got hit with a nasty BIOS bug with a Asus board in the past that they never fixed. MSI seem to heavily use Realtek LAN adaptors and I steer well clear of those, still remember the DB corruption they used to cause about 20 years ago. Stick to Gigabyte these days.

      • wannagrababargain on 08/07/2019 - 13:20

        Thanks for your insight. I would prefer plain Intel LAN too. Aorus elite does look promising with it's solid power setup and I've heard good things about Gigabytes latest BIOS.

  • idonteven on 21/07/2019 - 10:34

    What are the current options? I'm looking at building a 3600 for gaming but am unsure about what motherboard to get now. Should I be looking at an x470 chipset and just hope to do a bios flash?

    • Rockets84 on 22/07/2019 - 14:56
      +1

      If you currently have a X470 chipset board and don't need PCI-E 4.0 for fast m.2 NVME storage drives then I'd stick with x470 if you can update the BIOS to support the 3600. If you don't have already have a X470 board then personally I'd go with cheaper X570 board instead.

      I saw this video from Gamers Nexus the other day and it's a good break down of the boards for AM4 with various chipsets and price points. They have detailed information in the description for recommended boards.

      https://youtu.be/zuyuS04lD4o

      Interestingly they really like the Gigabyte X570 AORUS Elite for it's price which is the board I'd be leaning towards.

    • troyww on 09/08/2019 - 19:19

      I purchased an MSI AMD X570-A PRO for $230 from tech.mall via ebay after 20% off . About as cheap as it gets . No Intel Lan but does have 1220 Audio .

  • kingnunu on 12/08/2019 - 17:34

    Say all you want the pricing I think is incredible. Most these boards have wifi 6 and dual giga lan. Some have 2.5g, 5g and all the way at the top is 10gig lan. Those cards alone cost several hundred dollars. You get pcie 4.0…. most these boards also have a heatsink at the back of the board more or so to protect the board from any sort of bending or warping. Built in qmos flash bios so you can update the bios without a cpu. Useful if your computer won't boot at all. The first boards that can support 128 gigs of RAM in only 4 slots… Support for over 4000mhz ram… Sorry to tell you but these beat any Intel extreme motherboards and most those start at like a grand.

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