Hi, Buying a 2008 Kia Rio - PPSR Shows It Was a Repairable Write off

Aerith-Waifu on 21/06/2019 - 17:58
Last edited 21/06/2019 - 18:48 by 1 other user

Hi,

I am looking for a cheap car to drive to work and I found one, did the test drive, seemed fine without major issues, when asked the current lady owner if the car has been in a car accident and she said yes, the car was rear-ended and been repaired, the lady also showed me a Certificate of Inspection from DOT (Western Australia) which indicated: "The vehicle is in a safe condition to be used on a road, Vehicle Passed"

Pretty happy with the car so I am considering buying it, the car is currently registered till December this year,
She also gives me the Vin number so I can check with PPSR, I just did one and it showed below:

Can anyone help me understand the result of PPSR search on a vehicle below?

Anyone knows what does Passenger rear and Driver Heavy Structural and Heavy Panel mean?

The asking price is $3800, I am thinking of offering $3500.

Thanks heaps

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Still not worth is considering the cheap price as it was reared from the behind?
178
Run, boy run
6
Buy it but offer $3000
1
Find something with full-service history under 100000km

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apsilon on 21/06/2019 - 18:06

+6

It's only just been repaired so clearly she's selling it because she's not happy with it. That alone should be a clear warning. Unless it's extremely cheap for the year/make/model I wouldn't even consider it.
- spackbace on 21/06/2019 - 18:14
  
  +4
  
  Most likely she knows the person who bought it from the wreckers and had it fixed. They'd know each other. This wouldn't have been an insurance repair job, the car was written off.
  
  If it's on a PPSR then it was written-off, likely because it is such a cheap car.
  
  Can you really trust $3,000 worth of repairs to be decent? I sure as hell wouldn't
  - Aerith-Waifu on 21/06/2019 - 18:19
    
    You could be right, so you think its better to buy a higher mileage car with full history than buying a car been written off and repaired? If the car is done by a third person, which is possible at this stage, how does it pass the Vehicle Inspection at DOT?
    - spackbace on 21/06/2019 - 18:20
      
      +3
      
      so you think its better to buy a higher mileage car with full history than buying a car been written off and repaired?
      
      100%
      
      how does it pass the Vehicle Inspection at DOT?
      
      They've done it well enough to pass.
      - Aerith-Waifu on 21/06/2019 - 18:35
        
        @spackbace: Ok, thanks for that, got the poll going also
- Aerith-Waifu on 21/06/2019 - 18:15
  
  The car is a 2008 Kia Rio Automatic, done 43000km on it. She said she is selling to upgrade to a SUV
  
  I am only considering due to the price.
  - apsilon on 21/06/2019 - 18:28
    
    Don't think it'd be worth that much even if it hadn't been repaired. Keep looking.
    - Aerith-Waifu on 21/06/2019 - 18:34
      
      Ok, I might just do that.
  - Musing Outloud on 23/06/2019 - 12:41
    
    As the repairs are "structural" don't bother.
    
    That passenger cage you sit inside is now compromised. It has a large rear weak area, very likely heat affected by welding in replacement structural components. It will not perform in a similar accident.
    
    Do you feel lucky?
Ocker on 21/06/2019 - 18:12

+3

I just got rid of a 2 year old car for exactly this reason. I would not touch the car with a barge pole.
- Aerith-Waifu on 21/06/2019 - 18:22
  
  +1
  
  Oh please do tell what happened?
  - Ocker on 21/06/2019 - 19:21
    
    +12
    
    3 month old Hyundai rear ended at 10:30 pm at night by some bimbo texting. Her car was a right off, ours had $12,500 damage. 3 months in the panel shop and car was returned with a rattle/creak rear RHS. 2 years, yes 2 years, and with the car off the road for a further 3 months source of problem was finally found and fixed - faulty welds of the joint between floor pan and chassis.
    As soon as noise was corrected decided to get shot of the car via trade-in. (could not sell privately with a clear conscience)
    - giventofly on 24/06/2019 - 11:39
      
      Good on you, man.
Master Bates on 21/06/2019 - 18:12

+3

Run in the opposite direction.

‘Buying a repairable write off. … A repaired write off is, as the name suggests, a vehicle deemed by an insurer to be uneconomical to repair. This could occur following a crash, or some other event like a flood. An insurance payout is given to the owner, and the 'write off' is generally sold at auction.’ source
- qwerty on 21/06/2019 - 19:04
  
  +3
  
  Thats what they deem to be uneconomical to repair - repairable write off are sold by the 1000s across the country daily and are being repaired and driven
  
  If you are a kia dealership and have access to tons of cheap parts it could be economical to repair and resell
spackbace on 21/06/2019 - 18:15

+4
So someone:

Bought the car from auctions

repaired it to a degree that it passed

Is now selling it for $3800

And they're still turning a profit?

As above, run the other way.
- Aerith-Waifu on 21/06/2019 - 18:46
  
  Oh, so its cheap for a reason then:(
  
  Hard to find cars under $5000 with good service history, I have seen 3 cars this week and all said it had full service history, when I turn up to see the cars (Between 70000km to 110000km), none of the owners can show me any paper work except one lady who was able to show me 2
  - Euphemistic on 21/06/2019 - 19:58
    
    +6
    
    Full service history doesn’t mean much in a car that cheap. It’s more important to look at the overall condition of the vehicle and get a mechanical inspection for a better idea.
    
    Getting a rubber stamp that the apprentice at the dealership has let the oil out and filled it up again won’t mean that the driver doesn’t redline it everywhere when cold or ride the clutch, drive with the left foot on the brake everywhere etc.
  - Hackney on 23/06/2019 - 09:21
    
    +1
    
    Run as fast as your little legs will carry you!
- magic8ballgag on 22/06/2019 - 09:38
  
  Don't you work for a dealership who's main incentive is to buy and sell cars at a profit?
  - spackbace on 22/06/2019 - 09:42
    
    +2
    
    Yes but not to do massive repairs on the cheap to increase profit
    - magic8ballgag on 22/06/2019 - 10:16
      
      -3
      
      There's so much assumption in your reply it's hard to anything you write seriously.
      - spackbace on 22/06/2019 - 11:09
        
        +2
        
        @magic8ballgag: Good to know.
        
        azonki on 22/06/2019 - 11:44
        
        @spackbace: Not assumption.
        It's called experience and common sense.
  - brendanm on 22/06/2019 - 20:34
    
    What does that have to do with some dodgy backyarder buying a written off Kia Rio from the auction and bodging it up just enough to pass a check, then selling it? The point he is making is that they obviously are making a profit on it at $3500, probably would have payed a grand for it, plus transport from the auction, plus parts, plus labour. Costs were cut somewhere.
    - magic8ballgag on 22/06/2019 - 22:46
      
      -3
      
      You're assuming as much as Spacebace is.
      - spackbace on 22/06/2019 - 23:10
        
        @magic8ballgag: So you're assuming they've done it for a loss?
        
        Please tell us how a written off vehicle gets repaired then sold shortly after, and not for a profit?
        
        Because that's what I'm assuming based on the info and dates provided.
        
        Or do you just want to object for the sake of objecting?
        
        magic8ballgag on 22/06/2019 - 23:58
        
        -4
        
        @spackbace:
        
        So you're assuming they've done it for a loss?
        
        I haven't assumed anything.
        
        Please tell us how a written off vehicle gets repaired then sold shortly after, and not for a profit?
        
        After you explain why a written off vehicle can only be repaired for the sake of selling for a profit.
        
        spackbace on 23/06/2019 - 00:02
        
        +2
        
        @magic8ballgag:
        
        After you explain why a written off vehicle can only be repaired for the sake of selling for a profit.
        
        Oh right sorry yes in this crazy fantasy land I've heard of, people sell things like that at a loss. Yep, they basically reach into their wallets to give you something. Crazy huh?! To go through all that hassle and everything, all that time wasted, to actually lose money!
        
        The mind boggles
        
        magic8ballgag on 23/06/2019 - 00:05
        
        -5
        
        @spackbace:
        
        Oh right sorry yes in this crazy fantasy land I've heard of, people sell things like that at a loss.
        
        Why is that so hard for you to comprehend? Sometimes life isn't as black and white as you make it out to be.
        
        spackbace on 23/06/2019 - 00:06
        
        @magic8ballgag: Stop objecting for the sake of it, it just makes your argument look ridiculous.
        
        magic8ballgag on 23/06/2019 - 00:09
        
        -1
        
        @spackbace: No. Stop assuming for the sake of jumping on a bandwagon.
      - brendanm on 23/06/2019 - 10:29
        
        +1
        
        @magic8ballgag: Huh? You obviously have no experience in the industry, and haven't seen the sort of people who buy these write off, then "fix them up" to sell. It's only just passed an inspection and already getting sold, that's because they bought it to sell. If it had passed two years ago it would be a different story.
        
        magic8ballgag on 23/06/2019 - 10:30
        
        -6
        
        @brendanm: There's so many assumptions in that comment I'm not sure which to address first, so I won't bother.
        
        brendanm on 23/06/2019 - 10:32
        
        +1
        
        @magic8ballgag: Sure mate. In other words you have no idea but like to be contrarian. It's an 08 Kia Rio that has been written off, and isn't even cheap, has just passed inspection and is now being sold, buy yep, it's a great idea to buy it.
        
        magic8ballgag on 23/06/2019 - 10:33
        
        -4
        
        @brendanm: Sure, I could have an idea, but it's easier to assume that I don't, right?
        
        Much like it's easier to just join in on the forum shenanigans then to come up with your own opinion on the matter.
        
        brendanm on 23/06/2019 - 10:52
        
        +5
        
        @magic8ballgag: It's obvious from your statements that you have no idea, no assumption needed.
        
        I have my own opinion, if you look at my post history I don't give a rat's what others say and speak my mind. I'll reiterate for you-
        
        It's an 08 Kia Rio.
        Insurance wrote it off.
        It was purchased and "fixed".
        Straight after having passed its inspection it is listed for sale.
        The price isn't even good.
        To make profit on their "investment" the car has likely been repaired poorly.
        I've actually seen plenty of auction sales.
        I've seen plenty of backyard repairs.
        
        magic8ballgag on 23/06/2019 - 11:35
        
        -2
        
        @brendanm:
        
        To make profit on their "investment" the car has likely been repaired poorly.
        
        And this is where you lose me, you don't know this so it is purely assumption.
        
        Perhaps they genuinely purchased it as it was available cheap after being written off, then also had it repaired inexpensively to continue driving it.
        
        Not everyone is out to make a profit or take advantage of people.
        
        [Deactivated] on 23/06/2019 - 14:10
        
        +2
        
        @magic8ballgag: To continue driving it… For a couple weeks….
        
        Yeah, there's not making assumptions and then there's being naive to the point of stupidity.
        
        brendanm on 23/06/2019 - 16:28
        
        @magic8ballgag: You can't repair "heavy structural" cheaply. That's why it's a write off. It isn't something you can simply bolt second hand parts to, it means the actual chassis has been compromised, which involves a car-o-liner at the very least, plus cutting out the affected pieces, and welding in new ones more than likely. Done properly the repair will cost much more than the $3600. This is without including the original cost of the car, plus the buyer's premium, plus the transport, plus the inspection cost.
        
        It's not even just one corner, it's obviously been rear-ended hard to get heavy structural on both sides of the car, which means the boot floor would be buckled to hell and back, both chassis rails bent, hatch would be a throw away, rear bar, reo, and quite possibly C pillars/rear quarters. If you've had any involvement in smash repairs (which you obviously haven't), you would understand the work and cost that goes into all this.
        
        Noone buys a written off 08 Kia Rio for themselves, they are a cheap car anyway, it's done to make a quick buck from unsuspecting buyers.
        
        As the poster above says, it's only been a couple of weeks since it's been inspected, they really got it for a long term car…
        
        magic8ballgag on 23/06/2019 - 20:31
        
        -2
        
        @brendanm: Someone clearly works in the industry, congratulations?
        
        And to think that after that incredibly difficult feat you just described, an average middle aged lady has taken it upon herself to do all of that just for a measly couple hundred dollars of profit.
        
        brendanm on 23/06/2019 - 22:23
        
        @magic8ballgag: I don't, but did. No congratulations necessary, simply explaining to you why my "assumptions" weren't.
        
        The average middle age lady didn't do they work. You think an average middle aged lady purchased a written off Kia Rio from auction, spent more than the car is worth repairing it via a panel beater, and is now selling it at a loss a couple of weeks later? Occam's razor my friend, it's a buy, fix cheap and flip. Idiots even do it on YouTube. Have a look at the goose that tried to save a few grand on a Lamborghini front support bracket, and made it out of random rectangle section aluminium, with no crumple zones, and likely the wrong grade of alloy. Noone would know if they bought it until they got speared through the chest by it in a crash. Most people have nfi what they are doing, but can make it look ok.
        
        Edit - I'm not the one negging you by the way
        
        magic8ballgag on 24/06/2019 - 08:56
        
        @brendanm: I never said they did, but they must have had some part in the whole process, right? Either way it still sounds like a big ordeal to make a small percentage of profit, even if they weren't the one on the tools.
        
        I understand the whole process and why people do it, I watch YouTube just like anyone else and I'd like to think I'm not daft, but I also refuse to accept that every repaired write off is a clear-cut (pardon the pun) case of someone attempting to make a quick buck.
        
        brendanm on 24/06/2019 - 09:57
        
        +1
        
        @magic8ballgag: No, every one isn't. When someone is selling it straight after getting it passed, and are very insistent on selling it, it sets off a bunch of red flags.
        
        There are enough cars that aren't repairable write offs to even bother with them unless they are literally half price. You then have to deal with noone wanting to buy it when you want to sell it down the track.
chumlee on 21/06/2019 - 18:27

Is it more difficult to get insurance on a repairable write off?
- Aerith-Waifu on 21/06/2019 - 18:33
  
  I would like to know as well
- Steptoe on 21/06/2019 - 18:50
  
  +1
  
  No difference for insurance.
  
  Though, try trading it in some day and be prepared for disappointment.
  - Aerith-Waifu on 21/06/2019 - 18:51
    
    Is registration costs the same for all cars? Big small, new repaired?
    - [Deactivated] on 23/06/2019 - 16:02
      
      Used car dealers won't take cars written off before.
Stewardo on 21/06/2019 - 18:29

+6

This happens in Sydney all the time,
Car is a popular model priced well below average and paint is very good
Car is being sold by nice older lady
Car is a repaired write off
Car was repaired by dodgy backyard repairer known to the seller, husband-son
Parts to do dodgy stitched together repair come from sketchy sources. Cheap and often stolen.
Car is re registered and sold to unsuspecting buyer at a profit.
- Aerith-Waifu on 21/06/2019 - 18:34
  
  WOW! You got every point right except she is a young lady (30 maybe?)
  - loropy9 on 21/06/2019 - 19:00
    
    Yes, I have had all of the above and the seller was a young lady who didn’t know anything about the car. The whole story, including the suburb (Punchbowl, Sydney) was screaming scam. I’d only buy a second hand car from someone I personally know, not even from a friend of a friend.
  - Stewardo on 21/06/2019 - 19:06
    
    +2
    
    Girlfriend-sister then,
    if you can look past the ethical parts of the dodgy car, the lack of resale and are prepared to roll the dice on it. The biggest worry would be the lack of safety, it may have passed, but how sure can you be if it’s been cobbled together in a backyard. Not really with the risk if you get in a crash and the engineering is wrong.
- Steptoe on 21/06/2019 - 18:52
  
  +1
  
  This ~~happens~~ happened in Sydney all the time.
  
  Repairable Writeoffs in NSW are ancient history since the laws changed.
hasher22 on 21/06/2019 - 19:18

Nope, I wouldn't buy it. Unless 3800 is a good risk to take. But its up to you.

I was considering buying a hyundai veloster (whatever the top model is at the tome) for 17k 2 years ago and wondering why it was so cheap compared to 25k+ for other same car listings. Found out it was a written off then repaired. Back out so fast.
Baysew on 21/06/2019 - 19:48

+2

From your previous thread - Looking for a Good Second Hand Car around $4500, Any Recommendations?
your needs were -

Auto (if possible)
Low mileage (Under 150000k if possible, i know its a bit hard with the money i have)
Don't care about the brand
Accidental free

Why are you even bothering to consider a car that was written off in an accident?
- Euphemistic on 21/06/2019 - 20:04
  
  +1
  
  Sounds like that was knowledge gained after inspecting and finding the car in otherwise good condition. No harm in changing your priority after finding all other factors acceptable.
  
  If it were me, I might buy it if it was significantly cheaper than other similar vehicles, but it would also need to be significantly better mechanical condition than other model cars at the same cheaper price
- Aerith-Waifu on 21/06/2019 - 20:43
  
  @baysew
  
  I just can't find one sadly.
  
  I looked at about 1 dozen cars now.
  
  Many owners are very suspicious when I asked them some simple questions like how is the whole handling of the car. They said it runs like a dream and then when I test drive it, it runs like a bomb.
  
  Also, many failed to disclose their car are accidental free. (If its small accident I am fine with it) I can tell by looking at the car which has been clearly had repairs (not sure what degree).
  
  Also had cars which are way over the KM advertised. One guy said his car had 100000km on it, when I go and see it, in fact, the car had 170000km on it.
  
  One of the reasons why I even considering is because this car is lower than the $5000 I am intent to pay by $1500, the lady is very upfront about the car been in an accident (Not like many others), also the car was rear-ended so all the front parts are ok, it drives fine as far as I can tell, so when I saw this Kia I thought I am in luck, but judging by everyone's advice it doesn't see to be……..:(
  - brendanm on 22/06/2019 - 20:36
    
    Fix your current car like I told you how in your other post and drive it until it does, which, being an accord euro, will be a long way off.
    - Aerith-Waifu on 23/06/2019 - 14:23
      
      Sold it already, too much problems with the euro.
      - brendanm on 23/06/2019 - 16:23
        
        @Aerith-Waifu: Buy another one without issues. Be a lot better than a written off Kia Rio
Cave Fire on 21/06/2019 - 21:18

+1

Km's aren't such a big deal if the car is hardy and maintained well. Some models have flaws and break down quicker. Being in an accident, the chassis could have been strained. It could then be slightly out of alignment eg, not actually straight. You can't really see these things unless you know what to look for. There could also be other minor problems with the car that you will have to live with.
mikzter on 22/06/2019 - 08:44

+1

Panel damage that has been repaired, fine. Structural damage that has been repaired, run…..
- Aerith-Waifu on 22/06/2019 - 14:00
  
  +6
  
  On the PPSR report it had both panel and structural damage.
  
  I won’t be buying it considering many has now warned me about it.
  
  It’s back on the road searching again for me
  - aussieolfaction on 23/06/2019 - 10:52
    
    +1
    
    Good idea, op. Never even consider a car that has been written off. I wish you all the best.
Peck on 22/06/2019 - 09:34

I had a bad car accident and it worked out just slightly cheaper for the insurer to repair than to write off. The car was never the same. I wish that they had given my the write off amount. Like others have said "run".
82norm on 22/06/2019 - 13:29

Do not pass go, do not collect your $200 bucks. Run the other way like your life depended on it.
- Aerith-Waifu on 22/06/2019 - 14:01
  
  +1
  
  Didn’t understand it first now I know you are referring to Monopoly:)
computer barn find on 22/06/2019 - 14:43

+2

$3500 doesn't seem that cheap for an over 10 year old kia.
A falcon, commodore or camry would be a safer bet.
- Aerith-Waifu on 22/06/2019 - 16:15
  
  +2
  
  I would pick camry anyday of the other 2, camry are not cheap second hand, even if its 10 years old. Same goes with toyota
Ken1977 on 22/06/2019 - 15:03

+2

I purchased a 2013 Ford Territory that had been written off and repaired. Car was in excellent condition. Price was good. Checked the car out, a few things didn't seem right. Quizzed the guy and his story was a bit off. I could tell some of the paint wasnt factory, little things like door bolts had not been touched up and had tool marks. I got underneath and a few parts had texta numbers on them. I asked the guy and he said yes it had been written off previously. Car was in very good condition with low km's I looked over it very thoroughly and repairs seemed to be good. Car drove good and straight. No creaks and rattles. Had low km's. I left and did ppsr check, front corner and side damage. Was written off when brand new. I sent the guy a low ball offer. He finally accepted, had the car 8 months with no problems. I plan on keeping it a long time.
- Aerith-Waifu on 22/06/2019 - 16:14
  
  Good for you. How much would cost you/saved in $$$ terms if it wasn't a write-off?
  - Ken1977 on 22/06/2019 - 21:06
    
    I estimate around $10,000
- Pantagonist on 23/06/2019 - 12:07
  
  I'm glad you made this post to balance out the other advice being proffered.
  
  A repairable write off is worth considering if you do your due diligence, especially if you intend to drive it indefinitely and are likely to be the final owner of the car.
  - spackbace on 23/06/2019 - 22:05
    
    It might make sense on a newer car when the repairs are considered expensive but can be done cheaper.
    
    It doesn't make sense on an under $5k car because that means it's had less than $4k spent in repair costs (for example) to turn a profit, which can only mean it's been done cheaply with little care.
    - Pantagonist on 24/06/2019 - 07:05
      
      I don't understand the concept of a newer car being cheaper to repair than an older car, especially given that new OEM parts from dealerships are prohibitively expensive when compared with second hand or recycled parts from a wrecker.
      
      I don't know what policies and processes insurers need to abide by, but it doesn't seem like they really spend a lot of time considering quotes that represent good value for money. The repairable write off path seems to be the road most frequently travelled for "too hard basket" repairs (i.e anything involving more than panel repair or replacement).
      
      To give you a practical example, I drive a 25 year old ute with 400,000km on the clock which would be worth peanuts on the market. I'm pretty sure that any insurer would write it off if any damage at all was done to it. Parts are not to easy to come by at wreckers and most are no longer available from the dealer. Fortunately I have a spare non-running ute in my garage that is the exact same year, model and colour, so part replacement and repairs are very economically viable for me.
      
      So, as I said, in the right circumstances and after doing some due diligence a repairable write off can be a good, money-saving purchase.
Aerith-Waifu on 22/06/2019 - 17:07

Update: Lady just rang me and asking if I am willing to take the car for $3600 and she said she will pay for the Pre Purchase Inspections (I get to chose who but can’t be more than $300 in costs).

She wants my word that I will purchase it for $3600 if it pass the Pre Purchase Inspections assigned by me.

She also said her new SUV is arriving next week so wants this thing sold.

As I have never used Pre Purchase Inspections before, so are they more towards helping the buyer or the seller? I googled online most of them cost below $300.

What do you guys think?
- Never Pay RRP on 22/06/2019 - 17:37
  
  +1
  
  If I were you, I would chuck her a lowball offer like $2500. She seems desperate for a buyer, I'm guessing you have lots of options.
  Also bear in mind it seems like it would be very difficult to sell, so you should have a view of this as a car that you will keep until it dies.
  
  Pre Purchase Inspections before, so are they more towards helping the buyer or the seller?
  
  My guess is that it is in their best interest to find any problems lest they get hassled for negligence. They get paid either way, so I don't think they have anything to gain by preferencing the seller (unless the seller is a dealer or high volume seller).
  - Aerith-Waifu on 23/06/2019 - 01:36
    
    +6
    
    I had thought about it and decided not to go ahead with her offer. I will find a good mileage car without accident i think.
Ken1977 on 22/06/2019 - 21:15

I wouldn't trust a pre purchase inspection. My sister purchased a pulsar from a car yard. Had it inspected by RACV, came back good. So she purchased. Several weeks later I saw the car and I could immediately see different coloured panels (car was silver). Had a closer look and car had been resprayed poorly along one complete side. There was over spray all over car and poorly masked lines all over rubbers and plastics. Waste of money getting it inspected.
- Aerith-Waifu on 23/06/2019 - 01:38
  
  +1
  
  Oh crap, cant you get your money back provided the original inspection wasnt done properly at least?
  - Ken1977 on 23/06/2019 - 15:59
    
    Not my car so not my problem. She figured it was too late by the time I pointed it out.
HeWhoKnows on 22/06/2019 - 22:40

Repairable write off stays on the cars record FOREVER!

You never know how well the repair was fixed.
Remember that its a write off because it cost too much to fix properly.
So the guy that bought it and fixed it did it on the CHEAP - No two ways about it.

Buy it and you will never sell it

Furthermore you risk YOUR OWN LIFE just driving it.
- Aerith-Waifu on 23/06/2019 - 01:37
  
  Very true, it will be very hard to sell indeed, hence I am not going to pursuit this further.
  - gimme on 23/06/2019 - 09:17
    
    Shitty cheap cars being an rro isn't that uncommon. They're not worth much in the first place so insurance isn't going to fix it. If I'm buying a bomb resale value wouldn't be high on the list. There's just a bit too much drama on here for what's essentially a shtbox that's going to be driven to the ground eventually. Lowball offer is probably the most sensible thing imo
funnysht on 23/06/2019 - 10:00

if you plan on buying this car, get use to running.

To sum up, No stay away, i wouldnt buy this car even for 1k. Go with a second hand toyota instead.
- Aerith-Waifu on 23/06/2019 - 14:31
  
  +1
  
  Actually not going to, she seemed a bit too willing, but she does sound like genuine seller as she is upfront about everything. I think she will having problems selling it due to the fact the car is written off.
  
  I thought the price wasn’t too bad for a rio at 2008, but that’s before I know it’s a written off, on the carsguide it says its worth $6430, same specs but it had bigger wheels.
  
  https://www.carsguide.com.au/kia/rio/price/2008/ex?id=BhDMWZ…
  
  But I am pretty sure due to the fact its a repairable write off it may worth only half of that.
  - funnysht on 23/06/2019 - 14:48
    
    exactly, but rem the carsguide is very different to carsales.com.au prices. Sure the car may work but do you know the safety features will stand up like in an acciident. Not really so best to buy a different (and new car). Good luck!
redslert on 23/06/2019 - 15:11

RUN! RUN LIKE THE WIND!
zuuutoootuuu on 23/06/2019 - 15:46

take it through a carwash to see if water gets into the car
- Aerith-Waifu on 23/06/2019 - 17:25
  
  LOL
  
  You gotta buy it first……….
  - zuuutoootuuu on 23/06/2019 - 18:38
    
    I've done it during test drives to see if water gets into the car.
pegasusx on 23/06/2019 - 18:40

+1

Sounds like Driver Heavy Structural means that the chassis and crumple zones have been moved significantly.
It might still be "road worthy" by straightening and aligning in a machine. But might not protect the driver / passengers in another crash. As the welds/ crush zones have been weakened.
Windows98 on 23/06/2019 - 18:54

-2

Someone told me once that repairable written off cars can't get comprehensive insurance.
Or maybe it depends on the insurance company.

Might be something to look into
[Deactivated] on 23/06/2019 - 19:16

wait what does "repairable write-off" not sound like an oxymoron to anyone else
- brendanm on 23/06/2019 - 19:45
  
  +2
  
  It simply means the cost to repair was too close or over the value of the car, so the insurance company wipes their hands of it. Doesn't mean it isn't fixable, just generally not economically. A statutory write off is one that is deemed too far gone to ever repair.
desert eagle on 24/06/2019 - 09:09

Don’t buy it. I’d even suggest buying privately and gettting it appraised by a third party if only intended as an “A to B” car.
giventofly on 24/06/2019 - 11:40

Finally, an OzB post including vehicles that is well written and not ridiculous.

Hi, Buying a 2008 Kia Rio - PPSR Shows It Was a Repairable Write off

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