New release from Huawei Australia.
Key Features:
6.15" full HD screen
2312 x 1080 pixels
Kirin 710 CPU processor
4GB RAM
128GB ROM
Rear camera:
Tri-lens camera: 24 MP (Wide Angle Lens, f/1.8 aperture) + 8 MP (Ultra Wide Angle Lens) + 2 MP (Bokeh Lens), supports autofocus.
Front camera:
Single camera: 32 MP, f/2.0 aperture, supports fixed focal length.
3,340 mAh battery
Dual SIM
$199 for a brick and you say that is a fair price?
Ok $1 then
Make that 2 gold coins just for the neggers… :-)
Sounds like a line of dialogue from Django.
Black panther… Straight outta Wakanda.
No Huawei for me until current issues with US are solved. :-)
mate 20 pro back on android q beta list.
so yes, problems are solved
for three month….
Put Mate 20 Pro back on the List for only 3 months does not make sense.
@[Deactivated]: Trump doesn't make sense, and he is the one calling the shots. Not Google and it's Beta lists.
Why does everyone have to bent the knee to US?
Better than bending the knee to the Chinese
Ever thought you don't have to bend your knee to either ?
The freefolk kneel for no man.
as a customer, google is so important for me, I do not care CN or US, I do care my mobile
are the specs good?
Snapdragon 660 is faster than the Kirin processor (in terms of GPU compute), strong suit in this phone is the camera(s) and it's array of lenses. And it's also dual sim, few phones sold at JB Hifi have a dual sim slot.
It's priced cheaper than the Google Pixel 3a, which has a better CPU (a 10nm Snapdragon 670). If camera is what you're interested pick the Huawei, for everything else, including software support maybe stick with Google…
I wouldn't even recommend it for the camera over the Pixel 3a. While the P30 lite has an impressive camera it is not as good as the full P30 pro set of cameras and even then despite its higher DXO of the P30 pro to get full advantage of its benefits you want to be good at working the camera and its manual settings. The Pixel 3a on the other hand has the same camera as the Pixel 3 and 3 XL just without the same processing chip the same camera which is arguably the best point and shoot in an smartphone right now.
Chek out MKBHD's review of it, though he certainly favors Pixel's cameras over others consistently I tend to agree having seen photos from both in the wild.
No Wei Huawei
Haha, totally worth it
Latest news is that Telstra have stopped selling Huawei. As an owner of a Mate 20 Pro even I wouldn't buy one right now. But it's like being an investor in the stock market, play your cards right and buy at the bottom of the market and you'll be laughing as I guarantee China will come to the table on trade over this.
That's correct. According to internal memo Telstra has pulled the stock.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/458961#comment-7308475
China has rarely been ones to succumb to other powers though. Would be very interesting if this prompts another chapter in China's industrialization of home grown tech.
Yeah but most of the apps we use on the daily are not going to available to us if they go build themselves. It is a wishful thinking. Microsoft gave up even imho they had best mobile OS at the time of their demise.
There's alternate app stores that have the lot. I have to go to one to get some apps that google play geo restricts.
China's been humiliated for too many times in the last couple of centuries in the eyes of the Chinese government. They're not going to appear weak when pressured with bully tactics. Yet, they bully their neighbors.
Let's be real here multiple governments across busted Huawei. China is the bully here using state to influence private companies, and let's not be naive and forget about the great wall of firewall.
@klownvandamn: Just 3 countries? Do you know how many counties in the world?
Russia，China and North Korea says US is evil so US is evil?
EU (=28 countries) fined Google 3 times so we should bust Google as well?
@sfac: yeah there were a few EU countries France and Germany a while back, but i think it was with Huawei network/infrastructure equipment not mobile phones. They probably keep quiet at the moment because they have their own issues and dont want to rock the trade boat too hard.
UK and Aus should just about have their own stars on the american flag from certain perspectives.
I'm pretty unimportant and dont care too much, I just wanted to know if Huawei was still worth getting as a photophone
@klownvandamn: No seriously where's the evidence because as far as I know there is no evidence and this is a US intelligence service conspiracy theory.
Show me evidence because I think you are spreading conspiracy theories.
And of course the US and Australian Governments ACTUALLY DO what the conspiracy theory is accusing China of doing while idiots spread conspiracy theories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_(Interception_and_Access)Amendment(Data_Retention)_Act_2015
@Diji1: There's plenty of evidence of Huawei backdoor surveillance - feel free to ignore everything and defend CCP further though along with claiming everything is a conspiracy theory!
BBC, EU news, UK operations have found Huawei backdoors in many products/services.
Most field ops + intelligence agencies in EU/UK & Asia are aware of Huawei's security risk.
Though Huawei has never been caught directly spying, it has long been dogged by suspicions and controversy.
Take the case of the African Union headquarters in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, whose Huawei-built IT system was a gift from China to the organization. In 2017, the French newspaper Le Monde reported a hacking of the headquarters’ servers via a back door installed in the system. For five years confidential data were transferred to Shanghai between midnight and 2 a.m., Le Monde said. China denied any role, and Ren said Huawei was not responsible for the breach.
In January, Polish police arrested Wang Weijing, a Chinese employee of Huawei, and a Polish national on suspicion of spying. Huawei denied any knowledge of Wang’s actions and fired him. Wang, formerly an attache to the Chinese consul general in Gdansk, had joined Huawei in 2011 as public relations manager.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47800000
https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-security/new-uk-report-on-…
Good old 1984 citizen privacy invasion…
Most people will take the Vanilla Western / Five Eyes Government version with fairly decent democratic structure + basic human rights over Chunky CCP Authoritarian state controlled corrupt government version - that has countless human rights abuse & disregard for laws,privacy and a disturbing level of citizen control and censorship - not to mention the concentration camps/Xinjiang re-education camps….
@[Deactivated]: Can you please provide links to the evidence of Huawei backdoor surveillance please?
Not trying to imply it never/ cannot have occurred. But I've never heard of any concrete evidence found anywhere. Only lots of conspiracy theories from prominent sources.
@berry580: A lot of the evidence is still classified, however there have been plenty of breaches / examples of IP theft + data transfer back to China across many countries and many industries… more will come to light soon.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/20/18632236/us-spy-chiefs-br…
Huawei is effectively a CCP state owned enterprise and was started by and still headed by a former PLA military engineer. They have a long history of undermining and undercutting competitors both domestically in China and globally against particularly against the big players right now in 5G network equipment rollouts such as Ericsson and Nokia. They do this by heavily subsidising equipment costs ensuring that the entire network is dependent upon their own equipment and then once that dependency exists they up the fees and change the conditions of their contracts. They have now had multiple incidents where backdoors have been found in their equipment and the vulnerability failed to be dealt with in a timely manner. They were found to have breached international sanctions with Iran and have been accused of stealing trade secrets from those who do business with them. Make no mistake letting Huawei in on a nations 5G network is a credible critical security risk.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47800000
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/huawei-akhan-semiconductor…
https://www.wsj.com/articles/huaweis-yearslong-rise-is-litte…
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-motorola-huawei/motorola-…
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/vodafone-found-hid…
@klownvandamn: A lot of the replies you are receiving have horrible English grammar, which indicates multiples things. Maybe something to think about when you reply to them.
@wintersnow911: Have no come back to what specifically? What point exactly? Because it all looks like a load of pro-China crap where you're all doing the shitty whataboutism and comparing the US to a dictatorship who don't look after their citizens' best interest.
The end game is that China's government and way of life is completely incompatible with the west and 100% against the freedom that we afford our citizens.
You can get the fk out of here with your weak argument, because I'm highlighting here what kind of person is trying to defend China and defend their human rights violations.
Oh lets not forget how childish China was when they reacted to Canada arresting Huawei's senior executive. Didn't upgrade it from 15 to 25 years, or even life in prison. No. Skipped straight to death row. How convenient that their description of events should happen.
@klownvandamn: @klownvandamn don't forget to count the many US bailed companies and the spying from US intelligence agencies while you're on that high horse
@klownvandamn: Let's be real here. Majority of countries haven't busted Huawei yet.
Btw, everything about what chinese government is doing is still mystery, at least they haven't been caught yet, while US has been proved they are spying on you.
State to influence private companies? Oh~ why google ban huawei then?
@klownvandamn: Show me the evidence. All of the "Risks" so far have been paranoid hunches with no evidence by those countries.
@bchliu: OK I've seen enough of the bull in these thread now so I'm gonna cut through the crap and this is in no way absolving the US, this is reply isn't whataboutism.
Huawei is effectively a CCP state owned enterprise and was started by and still headed by a former PLA military engineer. They have a long history of undermining and undercutting competitors both domestically in China and globally against particularly against the big players right now in 5G network equipment rollouts such as Ericsson and Nokia. They do this by heavily subsidising equipment costs ensuring that the entire network is dependent upon their own equipment and then once that dependency exists they up the fees and change the conditions of their contracts. They have now had atleast one incident where backdoors have been found in their equipment and the vulnerability failed to be dealt with in a timely manner. They were found to have breached international sanctions with Iran and have been accused of stealing trade secrets from those who do business with them. Make no mistake letting Huawei in on a nations 5G network is a credible critical security risk.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/vodafone-found-hid…
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/huawei-akhan-semiconductor…
https://www.wsj.com/articles/huaweis-yearslong-rise-is-litte…
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-motorola-huawei/motorola-…
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-motorola-huawei/motorola-…
https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/bs36tn/huawei_is_a_c…
@UponOccasion: Yet you are showing news from US sources, can you show me any new evidence particularly in the europe and asia region?
@GeneralKeen: Really? Read the reddit source if you want some China perspective but really most of these are reporting established incidences not opinion pieces however I'll humor it on this occasion and do a what a Google search by yourself could just as easily do.
I don't read Here is a really good report by The NATO Cooperative Cyber Defence Centre of Excellence, give that a read. It is actually quite an interesting perspective:
The NATO Cooperative Cyber Defence Centre of Excellence
I don't speak other European laguages other than English so your will have to forgive my limited knowledge of European Mastheads but here is one example for you: https://www.euractiv.com/section/eu-china/news/eu-seeks-info…
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/technology/huawei-securit…
The vodaphone example I provided was in Italy btw.
@GeneralKeen: Europe all follow Reuters or AFP anyway.. thats probably on a bright day, i think sometimes they just grab it of youtube
@GeneralKeen: BBC, EU news, Entire UK operations have found Huawei backdoors in many products.
Most field ops + intelligence agencies in EU/UK & Asia are aware of Huawei's security risk.
Though Huawei has never been caught directly spying, it has long been dogged by suspicions and controversy.
Take the case of the African Union headquarters in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, whose Huawei-built IT system was a gift from China to the organization. In 2017, the French newspaper Le Monde reported a hacking of the headquarters’ servers via a back door installed in the system. For five years confidential data were transferred to Shanghai between midnight and 2 a.m., Le Monde said. China denied any role, and Ren said Huawei was not responsible for the breach.
In January, Polish police arrested Wang Weijing, a Chinese employee of Huawei, and a Polish national on suspicion of spying. Huawei denied any knowledge of Wang’s actions and fired him. Wang, formerly an attache to the Chinese consul general in Gdansk, had joined Huawei in 2011 as public relations manager.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47800000
https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-security/new-uk-report-on-…
@UponOccasion: It's not about Whataboutism - but every device ever bought onto the market has some sort of bugs or vulnerability - like a telnet Daemon used for admin purposes that admins are meant to turn off in Huawei's examples.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/05/02/cisco_vulnerabiliti…
Cisco too has many vulnerabilities - as does every other operating system out there (Windows/Linux/Mac etc). That is the reason why patching is required.
Backdoors / vulnerabilities are NOT evidence of foul play by a specific political or government group. It is the ACT of transmission and fetching data through unauthorised means that is of concern. "Evidence" can be found in Edward Snowden's reports of NSA spying on everyday citizens proven to be true. Can also be found in the Russian hacking into US Government's systems and electoral systems.
Don't mix "Risk" with evidence of "Illicit behaviour (Hacking)". Every device has "Risk" associated with it due to vulnerabilities or bad code. Hacking may or may not use these risks to do so.
@bchliu: I am not mixing risk and illicit behavior. The risk is real, if they supply all the 5G equipment we become dependent upon them and exposed to an unnecessary risk, why even take it. The reality is with that vulnerability we have no idea if they were or weren't exploiting it and just how much they would have taken. It is clean that they are basically a SOE with entirely unfair advantages against the competition and who actively encourage the theft of trade secrets.
https://qz.com/1536508/staff-allegedly-got-more-money-the-mo…
@UponOccasion: You are mixing the two - because one is a "RISK" whilst the other is "PROOF". You have only provided RISK ("The risk is real") but no PROOF that CCP has actually tampered with the equipment.
Again, without "Whataboutism", the risk is real too for all other brands to the US NSA or even the Soviets?
The risk is real only if you see threat in it - "Oh.. those Chinese.. so scary.. Americans look like us, so we can trust them".
Sorry for calling it out as it is here.
@bchliu: Why should you be apologising for calling out? Again like I said the risk is substantial enough that in a security assessment they should be declined. The fact is using their technology is what makes it vulnerable. Hacking incidences especially many of those carried out by the Chinese are extremely hard to prove in a definitive manner.
To answer your question in the more broader sense since you want to get into it I would rather us be vulnerable to the nation that we already have established security and information sharing relationship with, that we fought 2 world wars with, that shares a common democratic governance framework and which at least in some intention maintains some civil liberties and human rights. This is not to say the USA isn't an utter shit fight most days but even with Trump in power I would still take it over the CCP and its totalitarian government which recently gave Xi the ability to remain in power for life and is currently conducting ethnic cleansing in concentration camps in Xinjiang. Is that enough whataboutism for you?
Honestly if it was up to me despite costs I would be having us manufacture all our telecommunications hardware domestically.
@bchliu: This is the real issue……This issue turns "vulnerability" to "backdoor", "investment" to "invasion" etc you name it
@UponOccasion: You can't call telnet a backdoor - it's like calling every male rapist. Not liking Huawei myself, but calling a vulnerability "backdoor" is FUD.
Don't link to bad reports - it encourages more bad reports. Please link to the following technology community response to the report. Or you can just remove your smh link.
https://news.slashdot.org/story/19/04/30/0837235/vodafone-sa…
Not to grab my tin foil hat just yet, but I have noticed a trend here that has been particularly noticeable with topics related to recent the Huawei fiasco that any post with a hint of criticism of China is quite quickly voted down, and often defended with comments written in broken English. Make of that what you will.
@[Deactivated]: Yeah I wouldn't say they're all wumaos but some of them certainly seem to give that feel.
@[Deactivated]: Well, are you trying to say that those with broken English/grammar/improper english users that defending HUawei could be bots/red cyber armies/ccp hired trolls? Does this mean that the ccp has infiltrated Ozbargain as well?
@GeneralKeen: I'm not saying anything and I'm not on either side. I'm just pointing out a very obvious trend I'm guessing most other people see and are laughing at too. I mean it's quite comical to the point where these immediate down votes and counter comments actually lend more weight and validity to the original comment made.
@[Deactivated]: The downvotes and comments prove one thing. This is a contentious issue which people have split opinions about. Perfectly normal and logical.
@GeneralKeen: Lol again wouldn't go that far. Could just be some over zealous fans of Huawei or anti-Americanism. If you look at the way some people hate on Samsung or Apple it isn't too much of a stretch of the imagination that they might do the same for Huawei regardless of reality.
Although it is true that the CCP does mobilise groups within Australia such as students and other members of the community:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-04/the-chinese-communist…
@UponOccasion: Just remember - who has been proven to spy / hack on civilians and every other country through electronic means: The Americans and the Russians.
@bchliu: Dude I just posted an ABC article on CCP mobilising students for their own foreign policy agenda in Australia and your comment is what about the Russians and USA spying in places??!
That is literally whataboutism.
@UponOccasion: I think you should have realised this fool had no logic behind their argument hours ago. Like when they said this:
You are mixing the two - because one is a "RISK" whilst the other is "PROOF". You have only provided RISK ("The risk is real") but no PROOF that CCP has actually tampered with the equipment.
Not directing this next bit at you; It's the equivalent of playing Russian roulette and pulling the trigger. The threat and risk is undeniably real. The damage (tampering) has not been proven / demonstrated, but when it does happen, it's too fcking late.
@UponOccasion: Yeah, the last thing I want to see in OzBargain is bots manipulating the upvotes and replies. I did post something ages ago related with XiaoMi items which usually fetch a lot of upvotes, could it artificially pushed by the sellers or even the distributors in China? Slowly then I realised there is a big XiaoMi fans here in OzBargain and most posts are genuine by searching the posts and replies of those users. I think everyone here generally looking for good bargains, there might be a few far left supporters and far right. A good example would be the youfoodz deals, there will always be a guy warning ppl that youfoodz going yo bankrupt and owing a lot of money, this is not much difference with HuaWei's buying a brick replies
@GeneralKeen: Oh.. you guys have dropped your tin foils when discussing conspiracy theories here.
"bchliu must be a CCP bot"
Not to grab my tin foil hat just yet, but I have noticed a trend here that has been particularly noticeable with topics related to recent the Huawei fiasco that any post with a hint of criticism of China is quite quickly voted down, and often defended with comments written in broken English. Make of that what you will.
I called this out earlier and got negged lol
Like the grammar is off. A native speaker would normally only have spelling mistakes.
not local stock and no freebuds
No NFC.
No 5GHZ wifi.
Max 50mbps download speed.
https://consumer.huawei.com/au/phones/p30-lite/specs/
Specs page list 5Ghz. You're right about the NFC though.
You know just because the SoC doesn't support it, doesn't mean they can't fit a supplementary chip that does? There's many devices that rely on external chips to do things.
https://www.dicksmith.com.au/da/buy/huawei-p30-lite-dual-sim…
Dick Smith are selling the same model number as JB, and Dick Smith advertises no 5GHz.
But we'll know for sure if Huawei's correct about supporting 5GHz when someone gets one.
If Huawei don't support it then you'd be entitled to a refund from JB since they've directly advertised false specs as a retailer. Huawei not being a retailer have probably covered themselves by stating on their website "All specifications are subject to the actual product."
Apparently google readded huawei
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2019/05/google-re-adds-huawei-dev…
On my side i’ll wait for my oneplus5t to die … in a few years
I rather like to have NFC not the freebud
How much are the freebuds normally? I'd like to grab those at a bargain.
Those eBay sellers are going to get stung. Nothing worst than holding stock that loses value by the day.
You know nothing about retail then.. Something called Price Protection from the distributors.
How does that work?
Do these retards asking for Android update aware that you can install custom Roms?
Sad to say you it but you can't my friend, Huawei stopped giving out locked bootloader codes. So it's impossible to put a custom rom on these particular Huawei devices… Just FYI lol
Warning. Google blocked thwm from using android apps.
I'm just waiting for Harvey Norman to release, Price match and use the AMEX spend 350 get 50
Get it from here https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/460510
You would save around ~ $75 without even using ur AMEX offer
Wow…you are like a bot man, the post just released
Ai
In the past few weeks, I saw a lot of attacking on Huawei because USA banned it. USA is not always right. If I am not interested in this phone, I don't bother to click the link to open it. Your guys got paid by Trump?
I for one welcome criticism as much as praise - it's kind of the point of the oz bargain community really. A negative contribution can be just as valuable as a positive one to help people make a decision. Sometimes a deal that looks good on paper is exposed as bad because someone took the time to share their knowledge and experience with the community rather than ignore the post as is their right. Welcome to democracy.
And let's be honest - there's been far more defending than attacking on Huawei here in recent weeks. "Your guys got paid" by winnie the pooh?
There wouldn't be a defender if there is no attacker. Sharing knowledge and experiences is one thing, sharing false information or useless comments like "this is gonna be a brick" is something else
Wait, why'd you give this deal a [+] if it's significantly cheaper there?
Because this new cheaper deal wasn’t available before. It was only posted 30 minutes ago.
easternculture on 31/05/2019 - 19:52 Comment score below threshold.
