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Thanks, that's pretty much what I expected, HDR and better specs on picture quality. But I wonder if the specs are enough to tell the difference in regular movie, sports, TV watching?
"Make a difference" is subjective. Go in store and have a look with your own eyes and see whether you think it is worth double the price for you. I think for the vast majority of people the answer is no but again it is a very individual thing. How much you personally notice and how heavy your wallet is.
@Xastros: Yes it is a very subjective and complicated question to answer. Then there are the questions of how the store sets-up the TV, what content they play and how that translates to home? I don't know how much I trust the stores? I'm sure they want to sell you what gives them the best margin?
@Xastros: They probably tweak the settings on the display TV's to optimise "a big difference" in store.
Due the limitations of backlighting technology found in most LCD TVs, the high peak brightness of HDR makes their backlight shine brighter, which then makes the black level rise. This makes blacks look grey and washed out the picture.
This means on your standard LCD TV HDR content will effectively lower the pictures dynamic range instead of raising it. So unless you have an OLED or top tier FALD LCD TV that can actually display it properly (without raising black level), I wouldn't even bother with HDR.
P6 has direct backlight where P7 is edge lit with local dimming. Most people think the local dimming is fairly average on the P7 as it has hardly any zones. So blacks could be better on the P6 or at least more uniform. Wide colour gamut is more on P7 and it seems they have the same brightness specs. Both aren't great TV's if you have alot of HDR content as it can't show enough of the difference. But both are solid for all around picture quality. If you want to see noticeable improvements, then you're looking at Samsung Q8 or Sony X9000F. You'll get higher contrast, brightness, local dimming and upscaling. Anything inbetween those and the Hisense isn't worth the price difference for such a small improvement.
@Whisper Quiet: Thanks Monstalova, that's a good summary of the differences, or lack thereof.
You sound like you know your stuff!
@JTTheMan: I used to work with Panasonic and know most of the tech and how it's implemented. You're right about the stores putting different settings on TV's they want to sell. Sometimes they'll put colour and sharpness down so more expensive models seem much better than the cheaper ones right next to it. When I've tested TV's in the store with my own content I've found that happens.
@Whisper Quiet: Edit: forgot to mention P7 has android OS, P6 doesn't. So most apps will not be available on the P6. Amazon Prime, Kodi, etc
@Whisper Quiet: I assume the P6 and P7 only have HDR10.
Also where are you getting the HDR content you're watching? i.e YouTube? Or just watching Freeview etc? HDR blu rays?
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Does anyone know this support chroma 4:4:4
Looks like it's only 4:2:2 for all Hisense models. Not definitely but from other users who have tested it on PC, that's what they are saying.
My question is that would these 'generic' brands last 10 years? Because that's how long I would keep an average TV for.
The thing with long life goods like TVs, fridges etc is that no one knows until it is too late. Reviews can't tell you as there is no way to test longevity on a new product. Brand alone isn't a reliable way to judge as even within the same brand, some models are much more reliable than others. One Samsung phone may be prone to exploding while other models are fine. You just have to roll the dice.
My Vivo 47" from October, 2010 ($777) is still going strong! Use it pretty much every day.
10 years in pushing the typical lifespan of any tv if you're using it frequently
I have 2 Panasonic Viera plasmas going on 12 years with no sign of slowing down (and plasmas are supposed to have a much lower lifespan than LCDs/LEDs). Used heavily everyday. When kids are home (4 days a week) one of them is probably on 8 hours+ per day. It is bittersweet because on one hand, what great value and reliable TVs they are. On the other hand, haven't had an excuse to buy a new TV in 12 years.
I could not agree more. I have had Panasonc televisions more than 15 years. Easily sold my old plasma tvs when I wanted to upgrade in size. My self-indulgent Christmas present, a 75" 4K UHD Panasonic TV, is awesome and will last me for at least 8 years.
@ifonlyiwasyounger: Wow grats on the new TV. I can't bring myself to buy a new TV 'unnecessarily'. You could seriously sell 15 year old plasmas? How much did you get for them?
@Xastros: Sorry, what I meant was I have bought only Panasonic televisions over a period of 15 years.
The first Panny plasma I sold was more than 6 years old and I think I got $200 for it. The other plasma I sold was 4 years old for which I was negotiated down to $350! By not having young kids anymore the TVs were "as-new" in appearance and I had kept the original instruction booklet/user manual to give to the buyers.
My Panasonic plasma going strong for last 8 years
@hen dawg: Same. Panasonic plasma bought back in 2010, and not one issue. Only now looking to upgrade due to needing (read: wanting) bigger for the lounge room… Makes me nervous as I don't anticipate getting a similar return on new tv tech.
@filbo: Mine from 2010 is going strong as well. I still look at comments on TV specials to see what's good for when it does break but so far so good.
Cant convince the missus and my own wallet I really need a new one but I have told the missus our next one will be bigger as well.
Yes it looks like the Panasonic Plasma was definitely the TV to buy when looking back using the "retrospectoscope". Hindsight is a wonderful thing but foresight is better!
So was there anything 12 years ago to say that the Panasonic was the one to buy? And the bigger question is in 2019 can we use the same logic to buy the current "best value" TV?
@JTTheMan: My Pioneer Kuro - going strong after 11 years of constant use. Picture not fading at all. The only Plasma I believe to achieve such deep blacks on a Plasma? I don't want to upgrade to anything that can't match the blacks of my Kuro..so keep contemplating OLED for my next TV.
@IamAI: My Pioneer Kuro is 11 years old as well. Still in the living room. Have a a 4 year old LG Oled in the man cave. Its 1080p. It will this week be put into the living room to replace the Kuro and a 4k Oled (Hisense) which I nabbed yesterday for $1209 will go in the man cave for use mainly with the Xbox One X.
The Oleds are better for blacks then the Kuro. Still love the Kuro though and will likely keep it….somewhere :-)
a tv lasting that long is not a good thing … my plasma is already 6 years old …. i want it to die so i can upgrade … it just wont die. its as good as it was brand new.
@hippyhippy: Same situation here :(
Can't bring myself to buy a new one while I have one thats working perfectly. I will not be getting rid of the old one if I buy a new one anyways.
I don't own a Hisense, but I wouldn't call them Generic. They bought out SHARPS tv business a few years ago.
In fact they still release as Sharp in parts of the world. I believe they make TVs for Toshiba as well.
They have a three year warranty, which is above average from most manufacturers.
I'd expect most TVs have a life of 5 to 7 years.
To be honest though a TV failing isn't usually the problem, it's that usually the Parts are not available as the manufacturer doesnt stock them.
But thankfully Australia has good consumer protection.
My Samsung plasma died at three years and they offered a replacement or a refund.
I stopped tying brand reputation to reliability when my Samsung TV broke after a year (just out of warranty). They wanted to charge a bundle for the repair, but I instead bought a kogan for a lesser amount. That TV is going strong after 8 years. I have a soniq that hasn't slowed down after 5 years, and a no name dick Smith tv (literally doesn't have a brand name printed on it) that is working fine after 4 years.
If you're really worried, buy a cheapo unit with a few years of extended warranty. You'll probably still end up paying way less than bigger brands, and if it breaks within the warranty period, you'll get a new unit. If it doesn't, then you've gotten your money's worth.
Read up and educate yourself on 'Australian consumer law" which has been enforced since 01/01/2011.
If you TV broke after 1 year it will most certainly have been covered by it. Even after 2, 3, or 4 years, I would contact the manufacturer to have the issue resolved.
Warranty is something they 'offer' but it in no way cancels their obligations under ACL.
"Warranties are separate from your automatic consumer guarantees. The consumer guarantees which apply regardless of any warranties suppliers sell or give to you, apply for a reasonable time depending on the nature of the goods or services. This means consumer guarantees may continue to apply after the time period for the warranty has expired."
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees…
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees…
I'm fairly well educated on consumer law these days, but unfortunately I wasn't 8 years ago.
There's nothing specific to fail in these (not like the fluorescents in older flat screens). However we are beginning to see 8K TVs come onto the market, and we can expect HDR to progress much farther (into Dolby Vision). Upshot is you are likely to find it obsoleted by something before it fails.
In fact the smarts are the first thing to become obsolete, to expect to get an external box.
Yes there is?? RoHS lead free solder is horrible. Add in some dry solder, heat and vibrations and thats a dead tv.
RIP leaded solder… That's why the military, medical and space won't touch the new "Safer" solder. RoHS solder is made as a throw away life cycle to get us to spend more, more often replacing devices.
My Sony KDL65-W850C lasted exactly 3years 3days,Sony replied no guarantee on parts availability and callout fees is $189 and if no parts or irrepairable,sorry no refund for callout fees in that such situation and that is the standard respond you will get from all tv repairers and guarantee range from 3 - 6 months and all quote range from min $300-$800 depend on faulty parts & sources if repaireble,local or overseas.
My friend Hisense 65"tv 4years plus is still in as good as new condition …so you tell me why waste your money on popular brand if less popular brands with the same spec.and lower price can give you the same performance,afterall in today technology world all these devices come from CHINA ,VIETNAM,INDONESIA…
Why pay for popular brand if less popular brand give you the same performance and design look nd on top of that ,you get btw 3-5 years warranty compare to 1 year from all the popular brands.
The KDL65-W850C story. It had so much promise when it was released and the laggy interface has ruined the tv for me for the last three years. I can't get myself to throw it out - had it on gumtree but nobody wants it at a reasonable price. Thinking about jumping on this offer. If Sony can ruin a tv like the KDL65-W850C then this Hisense can't be much worse. :(
We've had a Sony KDL-65W850C for just over 3 years. It had performed reasonably well until the last software update.
Now it just does some intermittent weird stuff - like Netflix hangs, and have to force stop then re-open.
It's also not as responsive to the remote, and takes longer to start up.
Can't find anyway to revert back to the previous software version.
Reviews seem positive on ProductReview, albeit not too many. Quite tempted to get this for my parents.
anyone manage to get goodguys match this?
The Series 7 65" 65P7 for $1034.4 + Delivery seems like a decent deal too.
Pretty sure Videopro was selling them for $1378ish for the last couple of days and then dropped the price to $1293 today ($1034 with 20% code) - only 9 available at time of posting
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hisense-65-65P7-Series-7-UHD-Sma…
Hi, when i am at the check out using voucher or code PCLICK. It says code is invalid. And the price still shows $1099. Please anybody help.
Code is still working. Just verified.
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It’s only 100 Hertz refresh rate..! That not so good 200 hertz is better
do you roll your eyes faster than 60hz?
I think you will..
Anyone know what the plex app is like on these TVs?
Does anyone know if this tv (p6) supports individual/selection of Netflix profile, please?
This or Kogan 65" LU8010? I am after something affordable as this TV will only be use sparingly. Dont mind to pay 100 more if there is a noticeable difference between the two TVs. Please can you guys recommend? Thanks!
https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/kogan-65-smart-hdr-4k-led-tv-se…
This seems like a good deal, especially since Hisense is highly recommended on OzBargain.
What are the differences between the P6 and P7 and are they worth double the price?