This belt keeps shells at your waist so they’re always within reach.
Rugged buckle keeps belt secure.
Holds 25 shells.
Also since duck hunting season started this week they have specials on duck gear too.
Cut Em Lanyard - $25 from $35
https://www.gunemporium.com.au/product/duck-commander-cut-em…
Duck Inferno - $50 from $60
https://www.gunemporium.com.au/product/duck-commander-infern…
Yeah mate, if you're shooting without identifying your target then you are a danger to yourself and others. How the hell did you pass any sort of gun safety course?
In the swamp alot of times you will hear what you think is a duck but when you shoot theres nothing there.
I hunt but not ducks. Is there something unique about duck hunting that makes it common practice to shoot at sound without identifying a target? Sounds pretty stupid to me.
Also its easy ti miss due to the range of the gun is not close enough to the duck
If the duck's out of range then don't pull the trigger.
vegetation get in the way
Again, don't take the shot.
If I do take up duck hunting I hope our paths never cross.
…but when you shoot theres nothing there
I know nothing about hunting but something tells me you're doing it wrong
Also looks cool like a Mexican bandito.
Need two belts worn crossways for full effect
I guess you could use a belt while clay target shooting too.
Can we have a category for guns so some people can block them? I know the mods say we can block nsfw posts, but I like the stupid jokes for condoms/tampons/etc. So if there was a category for guns then people who don't care about them and their related supplies can just block it and you'd have less of a mess in the comments.
Guns and ammunition posts are banned. See banned items.
To block seeing posts from gunemporium (or any store or user) hit the hide link:
Hide deals from store Gunemporium.com.au
Oh they are banned now? Thanks, should be easier to block these as they pop up them
If it’s banned. Why it is still up?
Per the link:
Guns & Ammunition are not permitted. Scopes, cases and other accessories permitted.
Belts are neither ammunition or a firearm.
This is an accessory, not ammunition. Accessories are allowed.
Done. Thanks for the reminder👍
Wow.
We suggested that, but the mods decided to ban all gun deals anyway due to widespread pressure. I'd support a separate gun and firearms category.
And anyway, people can already scroll past this deal. People comment here because they like to whine and moan about things.
Incorrect. I'll quote myself:
Firearms deals are now banned. Not because we have an argument for or against but because of the shitshow of comments, reports and attacks this brings to OzBargain. Not helpful for bargain hunters, moderators or members.
BOOO!
reports and attacks
Right, that'd be "widespread pressure" no? (Though you're right, technically it's more of a heckler's veto).
@HighAndDry: Neil stated that the 'shitshow of comments' wasn't fair to bargain hunters for some unknown reason, so his workaround was to ban firearms bargains totally, being incredibly unfair to bargain hunters in the process.
It's incredibly contradictory and his comment is an incredibly contractiction. He should have just said he didn't want to have to deal with doing work as a mod, or creating an opt-in system rather than say he banned bargains to be fair to bargain hunters.
@c0balt: Eh - I think you and neil can be both right. I think that it is that he and the mod team just don't want to deal with the shitshow. BUT, people who're interested in firearm deals aside, the more time the mod team has to spend on cleaning up shitshows the less time they have to maintain the rest of the site. Potato, potato. (that doesn't work quite as well in text…)
@HighAndDry: Yes, this.
It's a bargain site, having these deals just pisses off everyone (including staff) and doesn't add to our site.
Well then I would respectfully suggest gun accessories should be added to the list.
@random110: This is pure heckler's veto. If I could get 100 people to just spam irrelevant comments in deals about power tools, would that get the same treatment?
How hard is it to just scroll past this deal?
@random110: That's not fair. This post has over 50 likes so its helped over 50 people. If vegans got together and shitpost on meat deals or contraceptive deals then do they get banned too? Dont let the hate groups win. A deal is a deal and its not illegal.
@Bryanalves: The likes are from people eating popcorn. Absolute rubbish to argue that it's helped 50 people. Unless you mean helped 50 people jerk off to some internet drama.
@Bryanalves: To quote OP in relation to banning firearm posts;
That's not fair.
Agreed. OzB is totally unfair to the firearm user community. Perhaps those individuals in the firearm community could protest by boycotting OzB? Dare I suggest they use another site for gun related deals instead.
Amar89 has made a start;
Hence why myself, and many long-time members, don't frequent this place as much as in the early 2010s
I will refresh to check all the latest DisabledUserXXXX accounts of firearm community members.
Alternatively, if I may quote jv;
[Australia is] also the home of nearly 2 million law abiding sex toy owners…
But they are banned from OzBargain too…
Get over it…
You need an opt in system for sensitive stuff. I want to see deals on firearms and sex toys. Maybe just hide it in the comments and have people opted out by default?
@elitistphoenix: Sometimes the community needs to lead us in decision and sometimes we need to lead the community. We have to decide the direction of the site. We have so many features, bugs and other issues we need to deal with our limited time, this is not something we will be investing money or time into.
Incorrect. I'll quote myself:
Firearms deals are now banned. Not because we have an argument for or against but because of the shitshow of comments, reports and attacks this brings to OzBargain. Not helpful for bargain hunters, moderators or members.
Respectfully Neil, I think that comment was blowing things out of proportion (as was that entire forum thread).
I distinctly remember those "controversial" firearms deals posted in the past because I made posts on most of them, and to be honest, there have been just as equally divisive and inflamed comment sections (if not even more incendiary) in deals for piddly Sodastream mixers or Dick Smith's closure back in the day. If anyone really wants more evidence of that point, I'll go through my posting history and dig up probably a dozen deals or threads that make any of the firearms deals' comments sections look like a Christian Bible study group.
In fact I remember several Sodastream deals in a row provoked massive Israel vs. Palestine debates before the community eventually dropped that rhetoric after heavy moderation.
It's also generally the newer members who'll resort to emotional reactions to products they have some kind of ethical or moral argument with, as they don't have any familiarity or history with the moderation guidelines.
The bottom line is, the mods have seemingly turned a blind eye to equally or even more egregious examples of massive flame-baiting topics and posts, and I honestly do believe the alleged negative publicity and reputation ascribed to the gun deals in the past was quite an exaggeration. There were plenty of gun deals where there was little if any commentary.
Lastly, as you know probably better than anyone else by now, this community has (and has always had) an intense need for self-validation and reinforcement of pre-existing ideas and beliefs and it has only grown more and more temperamental and outspoken on all manner of political, social and cultural issues that have absolutely the square root of jack to do with bargain-hunting. This is the probably one of the most unintentionally political online communities I have ever seen and at first, it was something of an interesting sideshow to OzBargain that gave it a Whirlpool-esque feel as a place where a lot of rather useful and niche information could be shared.
The problem was never the gun deals, the problem has always been the legions of like-minded Lemmings with hair-trigger sensibilities that are just itching and frothing at the mouth to unload a whole their canned vitriol and venom on any poor sod who dares to express a differing opinion on something. This site seems to attract such members effortlessly.
Hence why myself, and many long-time members, don't frequent this place as much as in the early 2010s, as the amount of sore feelings, senseless negging of comments and ideological echo chambers make this quite a toxic, hostile environment.
If you want to genuinely improve OzBargain, don't ban inanimate objects or categories of products, ban people who don't learn after generous warnings and community response that their self-righteous outrage doesn't invalidate deals posted on the site.
Ironically, this whole debate precisely the mirrors the gun control issue, where it inevitably boils down to a question of personal versus collective responsibility.
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: Like I said, if they can heed warnings, then there's no need to ban people.
I never said anything about banning opposing views, it's about banning people who don't know how to meaningfully and constructively discuss topics. Everyone should be entitled to their say, but not entitled to a free platform which they can use to push an agenda of any kind, which unfortunately OzBargain has become.
I haven't seen users being put in the penalty box with any regularity for a long time, despite plenty of cases where users are repeatedly engaging in mud-slinging on reply after reply. I haven't seen comment sections being locked on posts and threads where nothing of value was said after about 10 replies in.
People on Ozbargain who feel compelled to repeatedly spout off in off-topic debates certainly wouldn't be driven to continue to stalk OzBargain day-after-day looking for a flimsy premise to unload their ideological diatribes if their accounts were temporarily suspended for a few days.
That's precisely what drives that behaviour in the first place: the ego-stroking from monitoring upvote/downvote counts as they increase, the congregating of like-minded members reinforcing each other's ideological circle-jerk as they slowly pile into comment sections and the continuous back-and-forth comment wars that snowball into absolute sh*tshows once that post/thread inevitably starts showing up in people's recommended lists.
Deleting posts, which seems to be the most common way of moderating comment sections nowadays only goes so far.
Locking comment sections and/or banning persistently aggressive and unrelenting commentators would do wonders to stifle these free-for-alls before they actually start fomenting more and more recruits for the OzBargain hive-mind that will go on to cry bloody murder and succumb to mass hysteria in future posts and threads.
OzBargain has historically had a very low-key moderation approach and whilst that attitude worked back in this site's infancy (and was a welcome change compared to a lot of other online communities), when everyone was far more on-topic, nowadays this is basically a sub-Reddit about Australian socio-political issues and consensus reality, that also posts bargains on the side.
Temporarily banning people is a fair compromise in preventing escalating comment wars and it certainly would be more effective than simply deleting comments which only fosters resentment and increases the likelihood that people are going to look for more outlets to voice their opinions in the future. It also doesn't impinge that much on maintaining some semblance of free expression, whereas just deleting commentary (which ends up sweeping away much legitimate commentary when a top-level comment is deleted) is basically the forum equivalent of ambulances and fire trucks hastily blocking off the scene of car crash; it makes the details difficult to infer but heightens the visceral feeling of participating in something controversial and vicarious interest in the taboo.
@Miami Mall Alien: You didn't really answer my question. Who decides whether to ban those who disagree with you? And, if it differs, who do you want to decide?
You didn't really answer my question. Who decides whether to ban those who disagree with you? And, if it differs, who do you want to decide?
I did, you're being deliberately obtuse at this point.
Temp-banning people who engage in off-topic arguments after being warned by the mods, not people who disagree with me or anyone else.
Mods decide. This site is owned by one person and run by 4 full-time staff. It's their baby, so all decision-making as to moderation guidelines is theirs alone, I'm only suggesting common sense practices that are utilised in virtually every online forum.
You took things too seriously.
Okay.
Crysis is a sh*t game. Get a better avatar. And username.
Is that comment sufficiently trite for you?
Neil, why don't you add an adult or nsfw or just fire arms category? So no one is left out? Ignore the reports for anything but technical and add some moderator for just that category. We can't just ban something because some get upset. We can't please everyone by banning something that is not illegal nor is wrong. This is mob attitudes.
People comment here because they like to whine and moan about things.
You are a prime example.
Ah, but I whine and moan about people who whine and moan, not about the deals. (and I'm not asking for the people whining to be banned, yet).
@HighAndDry: Seems worse to whine and moan about people rather than the deals. It means you're going off topic.
…people who don't care about them and their related supplies can just block it and you'd have less of a mess in the comments.
Just don't click on the deal if you don't like what's being posted.
TIL there is a NSFW tag. WHAT BARGAINS HAVE I MISSED OUT ONE!?!!?
I know right
7 Reports for a shotgun shell belt. Christ you people get sensitive easy.
It's as if there was some gun related violence recently😉
There's always gun related violence. Again, sensitive.
Not "you people".
The socialist left.
Christ you can't seem to get beyond the lint in your own navel and get the bigger picture.
Small picture man, that's you.
Thanks OP, I hope no one posts a Subaru deal though
Or a 10L plastic fuel container either.
Subarus don't drive killers around, people do
So firearms retailers aren't responsible for gun-related violence either. Correct?
Incorrect - was kidding and have no interest in the gun debate
Will i get arrested if i wear this as belt?
This is a belt. That guy had an actual gun. Bit of a difference.
Actually it was the gung ho paramilitary gear and blue steel expression that got him social media attention and subsequently arrested well after. Most of the charges thrown at him were for being an unlicenced security guard and tampering with firearm and security licences.
No. But if you fill it with ammunition and carry a shotgun around in a built-up area, then don't be surprised if you get arrested then.
I don't understand why people are against this
Trap / skeet shooting is alot of fun
Just because some racist shot up a mosque doesn't mean owning a shotgun belt makes you a killer
If someone used a car as a weapon (has been done) will you stop driving your car?
Grow up people. This is a hobby
Couldn't care less who shoots who next to be honest.
I dislike being suppressed by anyone - especially the socialist left who are only too keen to call you out if you don't say what they want you to say. That's a national disgrace and each and every one of these virtue signalling do-gooders should hang their hands in shame for forcing their views on to me.
Laws do that too, people are already forcing their views on you, each and everyday and their political views have little to do with it, or do you imagine every police officer and judge is a socialist lefty? I'd recommend you tough up and not be a "snowflake".
Who's suppressing you? The "socialist left"? This isn't the States buddy, the most socialist aspects of our society are Medicare and the dole.
Sounds like you have a victim complex if you really believe you're being "suppressed" here.
OzB should obviously ban car deals. Definitely ban truck deals.
Should ban Kmart too because they sell knives that can be used for stabbings.
Oh sweet God save me not the Mickey Mouse gun/car analogy straight out of the NRA.
Just because the NRA uses it as an argument doesn't mean it's an invalid one. Btw, that is an ad hom fallacy.
The purpose of guns is to inflict damage from a distance, whether to animals, targets or people. That is their purpose. They were invented as a method for killing humans, they are being carried on soldiers, used by soldiers around the world with the intent to kill people.
The purpose of a car is to be a mode of transportation, moving people and objects from one place to another. All around the world, billions of vehicles are being used to transport people and goods without malice.
The comparisons between the two by the NRA is shit, using it as an example is poor.
@FabMan: I don't think the dead particularly care if they were run over by a vehicle versus shot in the head by an AR-15.
This argument crops up without fail in gun control debates as well and it just sounds so patently absurd.
Claiming some victims of horrible, preventable, man-made deaths are morally superior to others because the means of killing used is less-purpose built (which is also a questionable point).
What are we supposed to do? Cheer on the fact that 1.3 million die each year globally due to vehicular crashes, most of them entirely preventable deaths in 3rd-world countries where the roads are complete anarchy?
If you're seriously willing to go to the extent of arguing the asinine logic that a particular preventable death statistic is preferable to another preventable death statistic (i.e. my dead are more righteous than your dead), then you're also by that logic, clearly going to agree that 250,000 gun-related, non-warfare deaths per year globally (one third of those being suicides) is a lot better than 1.3 million car-related deaths per year around the world.
This morbid pissing contest associated with these kinds of topics really just reflects on the entirely self-serving, deranged tragedy-groupies who will stand on anything, including dead people, to get leverage for their agenda.
It is baffling why police don't congratulate the next of kin of car crash victims, instead of consoling them: "You'll be thanking your lucky stars sir, it was merely a drunk driver that slammed into your family's car; thank goodness it wasn't a gun-toting whacko with an AR-15, because this way their deaths were practically painless and they'll go to their graves not only morally superior but also self-assured in their righteousness, and that wins big karma points with the cosmos for our society."
All around the world, billions of vehicles are being used to transport people and goods without malice.
Meaningless.
America has over 320 million firearms in circulation and in the region of 11,000 firearm-inflicted homicides per year.
The newspaper headlines should read: 320 million firearms in America don't kill anyone each year.
@Miami Mall Alien: Amar89, you are assigning arguments to my comments that I am not trying to make, please don't do that. Let me be clear, I'm not anti-gun, I have gone to rifle ranges and used them, I'd like to go hunting one day, but then I'd like to do lots of things if I had more spare time to.
My problem is with the comment "If someone used a car as a weapon (has been done) will you stop driving your car?" and people defending those type of comments. There is a worldwide attempt to make driving vehicles safer for those inside and outside, think of all the numerous changes made to vehicles, the roads and the laws around driving over the years and consider that there is also a push for self-driving cars which has the possibility to greatly reduce deaths further. Compare those changes to guns, how much effort is placed on making owners and other people safer, bit difficult when the purpose of guns is to cause damage? Whenever someone mentions gun control to certain people, they freak out, attacking peoples character and making terrible comparisons such as cars vs guns. Luckily the same reaction doesn't happen when governments mention improving car and road safety or we'd still be debating if seat belts were necessary.
You mention the number of guns in the US and use that statistic, but it isn't relevant to my point since I'm not against guns. Consider how many hours per day guns are used in the US, versus the number of hours per day vehicles are used. It would be then good to know hours utilised vs death rate to make a fair comparison, much better than the number of them in existence in a region, which is pretty useless for comparison of how safe they are. Again, I'm not against people owning guns, just shitty arguments.
My point is still valid that the purpose of vehicles is transportation, the purpose of guns is to cause damage, comparing the two is in my mind is idiotic.
I would guess it for several reasons:
- Questionable timing for the deal in lieu of the recent terrorist attack
- The majority of voters in an OZB vote on firearm deals voted against them
- Parent's of kids who browse OZB
- Some people associated guns with violence
Mind you there aren't any negative votes.
The majority of voters in an OZB vote on firearm deals voted against them
Uh…
860
Gun deals should be banned
691
Gun deals should be allowed
We should let something like a 55% majority dictate what should happen to the other 45%? I wonder if you think this applies to other things too…
Mind you there aren't any negative votes.
Not for lack of trying - they've just been reversed because this is a valid deal.
I am just giving you possible reasons for people being against the deal, I am not here to debate.
Damn, you talk too much
I posted this because of the duck hunting season which started on Saturday. The timing is for that as that's was the reason why i went to Gum Emporium on the weekend.
Don't worry, it's probably just a bunch of insightless online gamers that never manage to let go of their control stick.
What a mature comment.
Thank you, online gamer.
Says the person with a comic book character as their profile pic…?
The Phantom is real. You are spreading yet more misinformation.
So it's other people fantasising, hey?
I guess you have a better suggestion or just calling the cheap shots these days?
Cheap Shots Gun Emoporium.
Yeah, that'd work.
offering free spell checks for signwriters too?
Ammunation
I fail to understand how difficult it is for some people to just not be an a%%h0le. Almost everyone can see that posting this deal here and now is in EXTREMELY poor taste and upsetting to many many people (not just those that lost friends or loved ones or just people they knew).
I just hope that the OP got enough glee from posting this deal that he thinks is worth making a lot of people upset and just making the world just that little bit of a worse place….
So you shoot without identifying your target? Also how does recoil effect your aim considering it occurs after you shoot, are you rapidly shooting at ducks?
I go to gun ranges, but I haven't hunted as of yet, I want too, but surprised to read those two things.
I'm imaging you hunting like this:
https://youtu.be/nEdyYP-vERs