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Autopilot $2000 | Full Self-Driving $3000 (Prices Rising to $4000 & $7000 Respectively from 18/3) @ Tesla

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Autopilot $2000 | Full Self-Driving $3000 (Prices Rising to $4000 & $7000 Respectively from 18/3) @ Tesla
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Taegukgi on 16/03/2019 - 21:33 tesla.com (2242 clicks)

Those that purchased a Tesla Model S in the recent deal may want to consider upgrading the Autopilot and Full Self-Driving functionalities before they go back to their original price ($4000 and $7000 respectively) on Monday 18/3.

Tesla is also canceling the discounts on Autopilot and Full Self Driving when the new prices go into effect on Monday, March 18th. All of this forces an ultimatum onto owners.

Before the pricing change, the combined Autopilot and Full Self Driving solution was $8,000 if purchased with the vehicle or $11,000 if acquired after purchase. The reduced pricing allowed owners to buy Autopilot for half price ($2,000) and Full Self-Driving for $3,000. That represents a sweet discount on packages that have only gone up in price in recent months as Tesla continued to fine tune the pricing.

The lucrative offer is clearly convincing owners to pull the trigger on the upgrade, with the hard cutoff date on Monday making the decision even more urgent, as evidenced by numerous anecdotal stories from forums around the web and social media.

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    • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 07:11

      Nah yeah.

  • nurbsenvi on 16/03/2019 - 22:49

    I really don’t see how Tesla can survive long term

    Major players are catching up real fast
    VAG group is dead set on electrification
    Volvo just released Polstar 2 with good Chinese EV background
    And Japanese/Koreans are known for reliable electronics

    All of above companies have either better interior quality or reliability, dealership network and production volume.

    Elon also made all his EV patents public as well…

    Only advantage Tesla has is the Gigafactory

    • BenR31415 on 16/03/2019 - 23:44
      +7

      1. I'd say the complete opposite, at least as far as sales are concerned: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dmb9RuAVsAAqznH.jpg (Look at the model 3 ramping up, their current number made is over 200k, so well above anything else on the chart). Also, none other major competitors have any substantial charging network.
        Also, in terms of the economics, the drivetrain and battery on teslas are much much cheaper than what any other company can achieve at the moment, eg with the e tron audi has pretty much put future development on hold for a few years, just because they can't be anywhere near price competitive.

      2. Which hasn't resulted in anything yet…

      3. Announced is very different to released. I'm personally extremely excited for the car especially with it's android infotainment, but there's honestly not any groundbreaking features that make it a standout deal over a model 3, whereas the model 3 has the supercharging network that nobody else gets.

      4. Yep, and so is America. I can almost guarantee there's a reliable TI chip inside your phone right now.

      The interior is really nice on the teslas, especially if you like minimalism, reliability is constantly being improved (and still far cheaper maintenance and less reliability concerns compared to a traditional piston car), they're constantly expanding their presence everywhere, and nobody else even comes close for electric production volume.

      Open sourcing patents hasn't caused any damage whatsoever, and at least in the world of software has proven to be extremely beneficial to many companies who use it.

      I don't particularly like what Tesla is doing with their locked down software hence the Polestar or Kona would probably be a better fit for me, but if you look at the objective facts, traditional auto manufacturers are still far far behind.

      • cerealz on 17/03/2019 - 15:47

        reliability is constantly being improved (and still far cheaper maintenance and less reliability concerns compared to a traditional piston car)

        While I would like to purchase from Tesla but am poor, what is the current stage in reterms of reliability? Minimalism if my kind of kink but so too is practicality. I have been informed that in the united states they have exception customer service in renting another car or presenting some alternative solution but is this the case?

        • BenR31415 on 17/03/2019 - 22:07
          +1

          I'd avoid a model X because of panel gap and the falcon wing doors, but a model s or model 3 are both pretty reliable. Granted, they're no land cruiser but they're quite a bit better than most other cars, especially when you consider the only maintenance you need are tires and wiper fluid.

    • ymidk on 16/03/2019 - 23:57

      Someone else has already pointed out why this isn't a very well informed opinion with the exception of the build quality comment. Teslas are more in line with budget cars in that regard.

      • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 01:30
        +9

        Every keyboard warrior will tell you that. But I’ve got a Model S and an E class which had an RRP within $10k of the Tesla (Mercedes discount heavily though, Tesla don’t at all). The interior on the Tesla is better. Better leather, the same wood, the same switch gear (The Tesla is a 2017, the Merc is a W212), way better infotainment, the Tesla has leather everywhere (dash, door panels, all surfaces), the Mercedes has more hard plastics l, doesn’t have a leather dash, the Tesla has an Alcantara roof lining, the Mercedes is some shitty plastic like net material. An S class does have a better interior than a Model S, and they compete on price in other countries (hence the criticism in foreign publications), but in Australia, an S class is up to twice the price. The new E class has a better interior than a Model S if you pay $20k for the Designo interior option, but the current E class has a worse interior stock, for the same money.

        • ymidk on 17/03/2019 - 11:07
          +1

          Well I'm speaking about my gf's model X which has been serviced 4 times in 3 months. Paint has delaminated from the edges of 2 panels, one window locking mechanism has been replaced, the driver's seat tracks have come loose, the lining between the windows and the inside door panel are visible in many areas and the quality of the boot covers are pretty bad. Overall, it's not great. But now I hate driving any other car.

          • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 11:48

            @ymidk: Had zero quality issues. Will be getting a Model 3 when released also.

            • ymidk on 17/03/2019 - 12:27

              @[Deactivated]: Wish I could say the same. I still recommend them and so does my gf. Hence why her family has 3 preorders for the model 3

        • spaceflight on 17/03/2019 - 23:08

          The interior on the Tesla is better. Better leather
          Tesla has leather everywhere

          Tesla don't use leather

    • jaimex2 on 17/03/2019 - 20:27
      +1

      People have been saying this for years. Since 2008…

      They are still here and still doubling their market share every year.

  • burgermaniac on 16/03/2019 - 22:50

    I'm a bit confused as to the reason for this deal. Is it a deal or not? It seems like it's trying to get the certain people who own teslas to upgrade? I don't know…
    No neg though, would be a good offer to someone who actually does own a Tesla and didn't want to spend the absurd upfront costs

    • Clear on 16/03/2019 - 22:56
      +5

      It's a Saturday night we're supposed to be having fun!

      • burgermaniac on 16/03/2019 - 22:57
        +1

        Oh I was having a lot of fun earlier ;)
        My idea of fun and excitement is jumping onto Ozbargain and finally find that deal I was looking for!

        Although this just leaves me scratching my head… awesome deal none the less

  • [Deactivated] on 16/03/2019 - 22:54

    Is there a version where I can have a remote Uber driver?

  • browser on 16/03/2019 - 22:57
    +1

    Why is it not a standard option on such a high tech car?

    • Mortal Krumpet on 17/03/2019 - 01:34

      I guess it’s like asking ‘why does my car not have the v6 instead of the 4 cylinder’…. you get what you pay for. There’s always more options or features to add-on no matter what you buy.

    • spaceflight on 17/03/2019 - 23:11

      It's not really high tech.

      They use an inferior auto driving system whereas other cars use LIDAR.

  • kronicmacstigator on 16/03/2019 - 23:00
    +1

    This scares the hell out of me… I drive part-time for a living and… you can see where I'm going with this! Straight to the unemployment line!

    • bargainparker on 16/03/2019 - 23:34
      +1

      You can macstigate for a while longer. Not every Jack and Jill have millions in their banks. You are safe… for now.

    • samfisher5986 on 17/03/2019 - 00:14
      +2

      There are a lot of other jobs going the same way.

      And if you drive for Uber, well the company has been working on self driving cars almost since the start.

  • fezzo on 16/03/2019 - 23:02

    Cashrewards offering upsized 6% cash back on all Tesla purchases.

  • imcold on 16/03/2019 - 23:04
    -2

    Self driving? Well I dont support euthanasia. That's a non-starter

    • buckster on 17/03/2019 - 08:49

      How callous, do you support euthanafrica, or at least euthanaustralia?

  • chk on 16/03/2019 - 23:11
    +1

    last time i checked, cars in this country weren't allowed to have self driving capabilities…so are you paying for something you cant use at all?

    • spaceflight on 17/03/2019 - 23:16

      There is no law about having a self driving car

      • chk on 17/03/2019 - 23:23

        my point was more around the USE of self driving capabilities, not so much the possession of a car with such capabilities

        • spaceflight on 17/03/2019 - 23:26

          But you said

          cars in this country weren't allowed to have self driving capabilities

          Which is wrong.

          But there is nothing illegal about buying something you can't legally use

  • mrhatken on 16/03/2019 - 23:12

    What's the status of the "Full Self Driving" solution with Tesla? Is this a pre-order for when it's completed and tested and available for download (the software)? I'm guessing this is the required hardware but limited functionality (Autopilot assistance) for now.

  • AtomuKirin on 16/03/2019 - 23:21

    Times have changed on ozb… Teslas are the new eneloop…

    • blamesociety on 17/03/2019 - 00:33

      The band 28 Teslas run on Eneloop Pros.

  • koganei on 17/03/2019 - 00:53
    -6

    I'm a big fan of Tesla but the autopilot really is a waste of money.

    https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/hitec…

    • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 01:31
      +2

      That article is fake news.

      • koganei on 17/03/2019 - 09:04
        -1

        Source?

        • dangerdanger on 17/03/2019 - 10:12
          +2

          Fake source

        • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 11:54
          +1

          Using autopilot everyday. It's next level compared to every other system. Not even close. It actually works properly, and with the update (that's already been available in the states for months), thats about to be released year, will integrate autopilot with the navigation. Put a destination in, and on ramp to offramp navigation, no input, including overtakes, changes of freeway, the works.

          Autopilot has evolved into a trustworthy and reliable system. The only disengagement I've had recently was coming off the freeway at Chadstone outbound, I was still on autopilot, and after the traffic light, there is a 90 degree turn south bound. A truck in the lane next to me cut a bit into my lane, and I took over, just in case. It probably would have been fine.

          If you go to news.com.au, or any other Murdoch press site, and search Tesla, you'll notice a strange coincidence. All negative articles. Even if it's super positive news, there'll be a super negative spin on it. Funny that.

    • HungryRussian on 17/03/2019 - 10:37

      You are on the wrong website

    • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 12:30
      +1

      I'm glad autopilot was invented, can't wait when all cars have it, too many idiots on the road that can't drive. Hopefully this fixes that problem

  • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 01:31

    The full self driving option is showing up at $2800 on my Tesla page, not $3000.

  • Keeegs on 17/03/2019 - 04:17
    -7

    Do you think these bargains apply to your ordinary ozbargainer?

    • AlienC on 17/03/2019 - 05:40
      +3

      no only the non poor ones.. aka the good ozbargainers.. haha lol

    • SpeedRunnerLink on 17/03/2019 - 07:34
      +6

      its not your decision to decide what bargains apply to who.

      I earn over 150k a year and have almost a million in equity and I can tell you I will still want to get my Sony mx3s or a xiaomi product as cheap as possible.

      And I’m glad people are posting deals like this if I ever decide to buy one or was in the market for one then these deals would be great for us.

  • LlamaLlamaLamp on 17/03/2019 - 05:36

    Those prices are in USD…

    • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 11:55
      +2

      Nope, they are AUD, but they are wrong. It's $2800 today for FSD upgrade in Australia for pre 2019 owners, then back up to $7k tomorrow.

  • AlienC on 17/03/2019 - 05:39
    +1

    Where can I buy an autopilot full self driving upgrade for my wife life?

  • thelastnoob on 17/03/2019 - 06:15
    +3

    This software is free to download on pirate bay but haven’t checked for virus so don’t blame me if your Tesla drives off a cliff

  • Blu on 17/03/2019 - 07:20

    I wish I could lock this pricing in on a Model Y.

  • casp82 on 17/03/2019 - 07:31

    Also don't forget the eneloop upgrade for your new model 3. $3K to go from normal Tesla batteries to much higher quality eneloops. You can choose rainbow colours or white too.

  • Schmendrick on 17/03/2019 - 08:36
    -6

    You, must be in control of the vehicle in all states of Australia - this deal is illegal and inappropriate.

  • Schmendrick on 17/03/2019 - 08:38
    -5

    This is the greatest joke ever.
    No one on OzBargain would buy a Tesla.

  • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 09:20
    +1

    I was involved in self-driving research when I was in Silicon Valley.

    Nobody believes the Tesla hardware can ever host true full autonomy. It’s just not powerful enough and lacks the sufficient sensors. You’re paying for a pipe-dream.

    • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 11:57
      -1

      Have you used it recently? A year and a bit ago when I got the car, I'd have agreed, no chance.

      With the latest software updates, I'm a believer. It's basically there, 99% of the time. This upgrade price includes a newly designed in house Autopilot computer, with 10 times the processing power. The object recognition these days is actually amazing, it sees way more stuff than I do.

      • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 16:49
        +1

        I’ve never used it (I worked for a competitor). But without a boot full of GPUs, neural networks still make mistakes regularly. We’re a decade or two off Level 5 autonomy.

        LIDAR is always going to be a necessity. Relying solely on optical detection is pure madness.

        Sure, an optical-only system with an embedded GPU will work “99% of the time”. But the other 1% of the time, someone may die.

        Full autonomy is a pipe dream. It’s a decade or two away from the technology being ready, then it will be a decade more before the regulation catches up. That’s why I got frustrated with it all and left the industry.

        The best bet is focusing on limited autonomy, like crawling the car forward in traffic, or enhanced driver aids to prevent crashes.

        • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 17:41

          I think you’re wrong. What Tesla has done is nothing short of remarkable. Current hardware will likely be high level 4, with drivers always responsible ultimately, but Tesla are close now. You’re dead wrong about needing LIDAR, the optical recognition works, Tesla is testament to that (the feeds not only recognise most objects, but it can work out speeds, relative speeds, vectors, it’s amazing). Watch a recent hacked autopilot stream. You’ll be blown away.

          And that working 99% of the time is right now, with AP2.0 hardware. AP3.0 hardware is out soon, and the software evolves weekly.

          • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 19:05
            +2

            @[Deactivated]: OK. You're right then. I guess I'm mistaken, as are pretty much all the (increasingly frustrated) researchers I've worked with.

            I'll be happy if Tesla proves us all wrong and gets Level 5 autonomy working (Level 4 is insanely dangerous, because it reduces driver attention on the road, then demands they take over when they have no context).

            I'll be happy if you're right, and don't want to debate it.

            • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 19:37

              @[Deactivated]: Your researchers don't work for Tesla.

              Here is a 1 week old video of an autopilot feed from a recent firmware. Notice all the parameters it detects. This is from a single camera, the car has 8 which create a 360 degree view, all feeding through the AP computer. It also has a long range radar and ultrasonics for close range. The current computers are powerful enough for pretty flawless motorway driving guided by nav, including automated lane changes. The new computer will increase processing power by 10 times. It's already being field tested, and includes traffic light/road signs etc. You're right in that they system will have to be pretty flawless, and it won't be 100% flawless on release, but it will get there. I have a feeling it will be level 4 for a year or two at least. I don't think level 4 is dangerous. The current system is level 2/3 and it's certainly safer in practice than driving yourself on the motorway.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GY1IJpdZyQ

              • spaceflight on 17/03/2019 - 23:28

                @[Deactivated]:

                Notice all the parameters it detects

                What it doesn't detect is more important and is what will kill or injure you.

                The current system is level 2/3 and it's certainly safer in practice than driving yourself on the motorway.
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GY1IJpdZyQ

                That video demonstrates why image based recognition is poor compared to LIDAR.

                Look at the sky, it's solid white.
                On a road with no trees you can see why so many people have been killed because their car has driven into the side of a truck that blended into the sky.

          • spaceflight on 17/03/2019 - 23:22

            @[Deactivated]:

            You’re dead wrong about needing LIDAR, the optical recognition works

            Tell that to the families of the people who are dead because the image based recognition didn't see a vehicle/truck and drove right into it.

            LIDAR would have stopped that.

            • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 23:39

              @spaceflight: You mean LIDAR like the unit on the Uber car that killed the cyclist? That LIDAR?

              And so far, out of 500,000 Tesla vehicles, 2 people have been killed because their car drove into the side of a truck. One was on an autopilot 1 car, and the driver was watching a DVD. The second happened last week and no one knows if autopilot was active at that time. It doesn’t matter though, because you need to pay attention when using autopilot.

              • spaceflight on 17/03/2019 - 23:47

                @[Deactivated]:

                You mean LIDAR like the unit on the Uber car that killed the cyclist? That LIDAR

                The single LIDAR that was there as a cost saving instead of the 5 LIDAR units found on the older does test cars? Yes that LIDAR.

                Removing LIDAR sensors from the front, back and sides and replacing them with a 360-degree sensor on the roof is more cost-effective but results in a blind spot low to the ground all around the car.

                If you're going to avoid pedestrians, you're going to need to have a side LIDAR to see those pedestrians and avoid them, especially at night.

                And so far, out of 500,000 Tesla vehicles, 2 people have been killed because their car drove into the side of a truck

                And that's acceptable to you when Tesla could put better imaging equipment on the cars to prevent those deaths?

                Don't forget that many other people have died from crashing info other things too. Like the model X that speed up and drove into a concrete barrier.

  • Hyena on 17/03/2019 - 09:33
    +2

    And here's me still sitting here clutching this:
    https://i.imgur.com/pceBrDa.jpg

    • Springfield on 17/03/2019 - 10:18

      If you have a reservation, should only be about 3 months to go.
      Lucky you!

  • funnysht on 17/03/2019 - 10:27

    i think this is scheme to buy a tesla

  • ecdysis on 17/03/2019 - 10:35
    +1

    I think $2000 is in US dollar? AUD will be $2800…

  • customundo on 17/03/2019 - 12:01
    -1

    Perfect timing. My 2 year old one has too many fingerprints on the screen and I don't have time to clean it

  • trantonz on 17/03/2019 - 12:21
    -1

    Just put an order for my like new 2000 corolla. This would be a game changer for my life.

  • dtpearson on 17/03/2019 - 12:46

    I don't get it, autopilot is still showing at $4,300 and self driving is $7,100 how do you get $2000 and $3000?

    I have a Model 3 P on order, but I think I would swap to an S if I could get a P100D under $170k. Resale "should" be better on a P100D Model S. Hell the cheapest P100D on Carsales at the moment is still $250k! The cheapest 2015 P85D is still going for $107k, so depreciation should be reasonable ($15k - 25k per year)

    • [Deactivated] on 21/03/2019 - 18:10

      I doubt you have a Model 3P on order, they haven't opened up the order books in Australia, so at best, you've just got a deposit for any model 3. And you can get a P100D for under $170k, they just lowered the price to $165k, brand new, but it goes back up tomorrow.

  • c64 on 17/03/2019 - 13:27
    -2

    yes, for the unbelievably low price of only $2000, you too can die in a grisly car crash https://www.newscientist.com/article/2095740-tesla-driver-di…

    • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 13:47

      Payout sold seperatly

    • dtpearson on 17/03/2019 - 17:21

      We are so lucky that humans never make a mistake driving resulting in an accident……

      • wholistic on 17/03/2019 - 22:33

        It's incredible how Tesla invented car accidents and they are all covered up by the media and no one talks about them /s

  • Issun on 17/03/2019 - 14:00

    Wait so you can actually have a full self driving car now legally?

    • team teri on 17/03/2019 - 14:20

      Of course not. Fancy marketing. It will be years if ever before the software is up for it. And then many more years before it is legal here…

  • CDG on 17/03/2019 - 15:19

    any cashreward??

  • striker5950 on 17/03/2019 - 15:45
    -1

    how much for a model 3 performance white on white with full autopilot and performance package?

  • No ONE on 17/03/2019 - 20:38

    Thanks. Just got one for the wife.

    • Slo20 on 18/03/2019 - 05:57

      My wife’s an older model but she’s already self driving.

  • Trubargain on 18/03/2019 - 10:53

    Does anyone actually have Tesla, who wants to share experience so far. Is it really worth replacing normal petrol/diesel car?
    How much time it takes to fully charge? Suppose, I want to drive from Melbourne to Sydney, how many hours I have to wait at super charger station to hit the road again with 100% battery.

    • spaceflight on 18/03/2019 - 21:04

      Is it really worth replacing normal petrol/diesel car?

      You would only consider one if you are going to spend the same amount as a Tesla on a petrol car.

      If a Tesla costs you $130,000 and the petrol car you are looking at is $90,000 then you have $40,000 to spend on petrol.

      That's 20,000 litres of petrol once petrol reaches $2/L.
      That's 200,000km of driving if your car gets 10L economy.

      If you don't care about money then they are a nice car, quiet to drive and fast.
      I don't like the TV based controls, I prefer buttons and a smaller display screen.

      • Trubargain on 19/03/2019 - 00:30

        I am considering the 40k version. The cheapest possible.

    • [Deactivated] on 21/03/2019 - 18:22
      +1

      Economically there is no argument for a current Model S, unless you're in the market for a $150k+ car already. As a car it's much better than the equivalent German car here. It's faster, way more high tech and just as luxurious (if not more so than many). Melbourne to Sydney would require 2-3 supercharging stops at about 30 minutes a pop. (Depending on car battery size/state of charge when you get there). You don't charge to 100%. If you're going on a long road trip, you charge 100% overnight at home before the start of your journey, put the heating/cooling on while it's plugged in (that uses heaps of battery), and put range mode on too while it's plugged in (optimises battery temp for long distance, and make the car switch to FWD more of the time for better efficiency). When you get to the first supercharger station, you charge to 80% only (ideally 20%-80% charge), as the next supercharger station is only 200km away, and you can skip the middle one and hit the third one. They are located all the way up the Hume, Euroa, Echuca, Gundagai, Goulburn. So you'd hit Euroa, skip Echuca, Hit Gundagai and skip Goulburn (potentially). Basically Melbourne to Sydney is an extra hour in charging vs taking an E class that doesn't need to fuel up, but you're probably going to stop for an hour total eating and with toilet breaks, so the trip duration is negligible. One thing I have noticed with supercharging, is that when I do stop to supercharge, I get something to eat, and while an 80% charge is ideal, lunch usually runs longer than planned and I'll come back to the car with a full charge. The last 20% takes the same time as 20%-80% charge.

      TLDR: A $150k German E350d is a worse car than a $150k Tesla Model S. It can however do Melbourne to Sydney without stopping, and the Tesla will have to stop and charge 2-3 times. The total drive time can be an hour quicker in the Mercedes, but taking into account stopping for food and toilet breaks, it will probably take the same amount of time.

  • Samsungnote10 on 18/03/2019 - 13:50

    I actually test drove a tesla a few months ago,

    surprised by how nice it was on the inside,
    however it was brnad new and may not age well

    it wasnt the LUDACRIS version though

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