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[VIC] Free Admission @ Islamic Museum of Australia

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Miss B on 16/03/2019 - 20:14 islamicmuseum.org.au (1124 clicks)
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Tomorrow The Islamic Council of Victoria are having open days at many of their mosques, as they have for the last couple of years. As part of this they are also opening the Islamic Museum of Australia for free to the public. As they note, gold coin donation is welcome but not required. It's normally $12 for adults and $10 for concession.

They will have the following activities:

Guided Tours: 10am, 12pm and 3pm

Meet and Greet Bachar Houli, Richmond Football Club: 1 - 2pm

Ramadan Lecture by Ismail Davids: 11am

Kids Activity - Build Your Own Mosque: 11am - 2pm

Book Reading: Aneesa and Jamal go to Masjid: 2pm

There is also a sausage sizzle for a gold coin donation.

There is more information here about the open day and mosques that are participating in the open day.

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  • FlatulentFrank on 16/03/2019 - 21:25
    +8

    Hey mods, just lock the comment section. There's nothing of value discussed other than people arguing and providing their one eyed opinions. This is for shopping bargains not politics.

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  • yoshi864 on 16/03/2019 - 21:25
    +16

    My hope is that the Xenophobia and hatred we see these days (even on this very thread) is on its last legs and that the new generation have more compassion and empathy to all humans, not just those that look and speak like them.

    • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 21:27
      +10

      I hope so too. The casual and hostile racism I've seen on Ozbargain is part of the problem. People should hang their heads in effing shame.

    • mathew42 on 16/03/2019 - 21:44
      +3

      I would like to share that hope, but it is hard when I look at the world leaders who have built their power on division, nationalism and personal attacks on opponents.
      * USA - Trump
      * Russia - Putin
      * China - Xi (President for Life)
      * India - Modi (Hindu Nationalist)

      • bajirao on 17/03/2019 - 13:48

        Why not include the Pakistani and Saudi and other Muslim leaders as well? What not talk about how those leaders treat their minorities? Your comment reeks of bigotry.

        • mathew42 on 17/03/2019 - 17:10

          USA, Russia, China & India are arguably the most powerful in the world and multi-cultural, multi-racial and multi-religious. In my opinion the current leaders of each of these countries has not encouraged their people to be tolerant. In the decade after the fall of communism, there was hope that the world was becoming a more open and compassionate place. The dream was that as China liberalised it's economy that intellectual freedom and the rule of law would also follow. I don't think that is the case any more.

          Sadly in all(?) countries there is mistreatment of minorities or even the majority by powerful. I have many significant issues with events in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. However it is more challenging to condemn those societies when looking at the example of more powerful nations.

  • jgdec on 16/03/2019 - 21:27
    +8

    Identity politics has made us into terrible human beings. Why can't we all just get along? I'll head there tomorrow and maybe even learn something.

    • Duck Mode on 16/03/2019 - 21:48
      +1

      Acknowledging oneself as gay/straight/aboriginal/asian/etc is not the cause of violence. Identity is often psychologically and culturally important to people. Hatred and intolerance of those differences is what causes the harm.

  • Miss B on 16/03/2019 - 21:29
    +43

    I'm not going to post this in the OP, because I don't think it's where it belongs. I definitely believe that free entry into other museums that normally cost money is worth posting. I posted and genuinely believe it is a deal and would have a week ago too if I had seen it. I may not have realised if I wasn't on the ICV page for something else, so maybe I wouldn't have posted.

    If all you feel when you read this post is hatred, maybe you should look to the ICV, who even at this difficult time are inviting and welcoming other people into their community, even though it may put them at further risk.

    If this was a religious paraphernalia deal where people are trying to convert others and the materials are always free I would not have posted. This is the Muslim community welcoming others to come and learn more about their community and their beliefs. It was planned before the attack in NZ. You absolutely have the option not to go and you can do it without spreading hate.

    • ozhunter on 16/03/2019 - 21:39
      +2

      This is the Muslim community welcoming others to come and learn more about their community and their beliefs.

      It would be interesting to see what they teach people about Islam, and what they don't.

      • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 21:42
        +17

        Seriously a ton of people including a 3 year old boy have just been murdered by an Islam hating terrorist and you still don't know when to quit? Islam like any bloody religion, is full of different cultures, cultural practices, streams, differing beliefs etc etc. Disingenuous comments like this are part of what creates terrorism. Stop trying to seed suspicion and make people fear a community, it's not on.

        MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 21:42 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
        • ozhunter on 16/03/2019 - 21:44
          +11

          Seriously a ton of people including a 3 year old boy have just been murdered by an Islam hating terrorist

          And that was a horrible tragedy.

          Islam like any bloody religion, is full of different cultures, cultural practices, streams, differing beliefs etc etc.

          Yes, and they aren't all good practices/beliefs

          • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 21:48
            +14

            @ozhunter: No they're not, but none of them are but MOST of them including the Islam mainstream are peaceful and not effing keeping secrets from you. Your choice to respond with suspicion in the wake of that mass murder is grubby and reeks of terrorist-sympathising.

            And it wasn't a tragedy. A tragedy is beyond someones control. An islamophobe made a choice, fuelled in no small part by this kind of terrorist commentary on the Internet. Enough is enough.

            • ozhunter on 16/03/2019 - 22:20
              +10

              @MessyG: I'm sure there are Muslims who are very nice people, doesn't mean I can't be critical of Islam.

              terrorist-sympathising
              terrorist commentary

              Really? It's like I have to like Islam…

              https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/muslims-force-pro-lgbt-le…

              Would you approve of what Muslims did here?

              • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 22:54
                +6

                @ozhunter: You're only proving my point. What you are engaging in is absolutely terrorist-speech, they are the weasel words present in what's his names manifesto and it's that banality of evil that makes it so. No one says you have to become a Muslim. But tolerance starts with an open mind, not criticism. And again you can hardly be critical of something if you're ignorant of it. Don't confuse your opinion with knowledge. If you had any knowledge or experience, you wouldn't be saying something as inane like 'critical of Islam'. But that's what Islamophobia, racism and terrorist speech all are. Lack of knowledge, lack of experience, zero tolerance, rigidity and inability to appreciate nuance. It is what it is. Keep defending your 'right' to 'criticize'. Your words are in the manifesto.

                • ozhunter on 16/03/2019 - 23:02
                  +2

                  @MessyG: Don't see how calling out Islam in what I consider to be wrong is terrorist-speech or being a terrorist-sympathiser…

                • belongsinforums on 17/03/2019 - 09:23
                  +6

                  @MessyG: your logic has a huge hole in it. i understand you're trying to defend islam. but saying something is infallible because its an ideology, and calling anyone racist who says otherwise, doesnt allow for discussion.

                • meowbert on 17/03/2019 - 10:05
                  +1

                  @MessyG: I agree, "Terrorist speech" is the worst. I only engage in "counter terrorist speech".

      • bmerigan on 17/03/2019 - 21:43

        Do you know what the crusades were? I bet that's not taught in Catholic school

    • mathew42 on 16/03/2019 - 22:13
      +7

      If this was a religious paraphernalia deal where people are trying to convert others

      Almost every organisation that holds an open day from schools to sporting clubs and religious organisations are trying to attract members. I'd be really surprised if that wasn't the case in this situation. I'm not saying it is wrong or that you should go, just that it is reality.

      • [Deactivated] on 16/03/2019 - 22:43

        Well said

  • CTJR on 16/03/2019 - 21:31
    -3

    Disgusting that some of these comments are being left up, and accounts in place. Absolute racist gronks.

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    • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 21:32
      +3

      I think it's beyond racism now. I think people who are STILL saying this stuff in light what happened truly are terrorist sympathisers. We saw it with ISIS on social media all the time, the stuff people say is exactly the same, it's terrifying.

      • CTJR on 16/03/2019 - 21:41
        +1

        At the end of the day, people click on this with an open mind, either to what is being offered, or the deal in place.

        Or they're a deadset rockape who can't read a room.

        • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 21:43
          +3

          There seems to be a lot on here tonight.

      • Xizor on 16/03/2019 - 21:53
        +6

        Please, lets not conflate prejudice with racism. Doing that is no better than those who slander everyone of a single affiliation either.

        • CTJR on 16/03/2019 - 21:58

          I'll stand by racist on this one. The lack of understanding about Islam from some of these single chromosome types makes it pretty clear that their view and/or limited understanding of it, is exclusively a "Brown people's religion".

    • ozhunter on 16/03/2019 - 21:41
      +8

      Okay, but Islam isn't a race…

      • CTJR on 16/03/2019 - 21:41

        ……vintage Perf.

      • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 21:43
        +1

        Exactly. That's why it's terrorism. And terrorist speech.

    • robb6014 on 17/03/2019 - 06:57
      -1

      It’s funny how worked up the left get because we don’t all worship islam. Meanwhile Catholics are the butt of every Pell joke and don’t seem to care

      • buckster on 17/03/2019 - 09:10

        Because the Catholics are horrified too

  • MountFranklin on 16/03/2019 - 21:32
    +2

    Unjust hate speech is me exercising my "freedom of speech".

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  • TheDukeOfNukem on 16/03/2019 - 21:32

    Probably already been a tonne of terrible jokes,

    but will the snags be halal?

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    • bossmode on 16/03/2019 - 21:34

      The only thing haram will be the taste!

    • KingJuf on 16/03/2019 - 22:01
      +1

      Of course, there will even be halal water available ;)

  • apoy98 on 16/03/2019 - 21:41
    +1

    Maybe all these islamophobes should take advantage of this. Learn something new? Learn that we are all just people, and shouldn't be hated for our personal beliefs? Maybe realize that the way to end all these wars is to be accepting?

    Think about it.. if this "deal" can get rid of one person's islamophobia.. i think that's an INCREDIBLE bargain.

    Me <—- raised catholic, a third of my family is islamic, at present though i'm just agnostic.

    • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 21:46
      +2

      "“It is indeed my opinion now that evil is never “radical,” that it is only extreme, and that it possesses neither depth nor any demonic dimension. It can overgrow and lay waste the whole world precisely because it spreads like a fungus on the surface. It is “thought-defying,” as I said, because thought tries to reach some depth, to go to the roots, and the moment it concerns itself with evil, it is frustrated because there is nothing. That is its “banality.” Only the good has depth that can be radical." - Hannah Arendt, 1951.

      The Islamophobes, the Western hating ISIS, all of them are that insidious fungus, and a huge majority of them casually spread their views in places like these, until the whole word suffers these diseases. I don't really know if Islamophobia can be cured, but it can be loudly called out and everyone alerted to the evil in the room.

    • Enzalicious on 16/03/2019 - 21:47
      +9

      Islamophobes do not want to learn. Just hate.

      Today it’s muslims, tomorrow it will be someone else.

      • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 21:49
        +5

        I swear these people are so unable to articulate what is wrong deep inside them that they just lay it thickly onto another group.

      • MountFranklin on 16/03/2019 - 22:07
        +3

        Was Asians. The Muslims. Then Asian muslims. Then mind blownl

    • Incrediho on 17/03/2019 - 15:22
      +8

      Is it possible to have a rational fear of Islam? Or is any fear of Islam inherently a phobia?

      Is there literally nothing in the doctrine that could legitimately make one uncomfortable?

      Is criticizing a set of ideas automatically hate of those who hold/espouse those ideas?

      • King Tightarse on 18/03/2019 - 11:18
        +3

        That is a VERY good point.
        All robust religions and philosophies should be able to cope with scrutiny, questioning and criticism

  • m2stech on 16/03/2019 - 21:44
    +4

    Why can't we all get along and respect our differences, we all share offers and promotions and this is clearly one of them, why slam the person who posts it and those interesting in joining? not every post, service and item listed here is supposed to be relevant to you.

    • [Deactivated] on 16/03/2019 - 22:44
      +10

      It's the same situation as the gun threads, they were banned.

      Religion should also be banned from here.

    • belongsinforums on 16/03/2019 - 23:17
      +11

      not me, but some people are upset that some ideologies promote murder (see apostates) yet if you call them out on it, you're a racist

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      • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 00:22
        +2

        That's because there idiots.

        There's a differences between saying how it is and actually having hate for certain type of race

        • belongsinforums on 17/03/2019 - 09:20
          +1

          and theres a time and a place to criticise religion. and that place is the dinner table

          • [Deactivated] on 17/03/2019 - 21:51

            @belongsinforums: Yeah that last comment you made put me to sleep

  • Autonomic on 16/03/2019 - 21:51
    +11

    The comments in this thread make me think much less of the ozbargain community.

    Autonomic on 16/03/2019 - 21:51 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
    • King Steuart on 16/03/2019 - 22:25
      +3

      The ozb community has been shit for a while now. I used to browse here daily, but now it's just trolls and downvote ghosts.

  • ahly92 on 16/03/2019 - 22:01
    +4

    Thanks OP, will go and take the kids!

    Kids Activity - Build Your Own Mosque

    this will get the right-wing stirred up lol

    • serpserpserp on 16/03/2019 - 23:04

      I was just thinking that with 3 hours and the right amount of kids you could pour a pretty good foundation to get a new Mosque going!

    • ozhunter on 16/03/2019 - 23:11

      Lol, I'd say that's leans more on the peaceful side of things.

  • customundo on 16/03/2019 - 22:03
    +2

    Meet and greet Bachar Houli so he can teach you how to punch opponents in OZ rules footy

    • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 22:05
      +7

      Cos no ones ever done that before!

    • CTJR on 16/03/2019 - 22:06
      +9

      I have nothing else going on in my life, I must hang on to this incident 2 years later.

    • customundo on 17/03/2019 - 12:37
      +1

      Doing something illegal makes it ok if its in the past? Ok

  • PlushToys on 16/03/2019 - 22:03
    +3

    Politics, just want people to feel 'more sorry'.

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    • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 22:06
      +2

      Grow up kiddo.

  • Ti-au on 16/03/2019 - 22:05

    No matter what one thinks, always good to learn something new/different.

    Also ask them where is a good place to buy middle east treats and meats. - you ALL owe me.

    • jv on 16/03/2019 - 22:07
      +12

      always good to learn something new/different.

      that's not true.

      • Ti-au on 16/03/2019 - 22:08
        +1

        u can do better jv. At least make it witty.

      • MountFranklin on 16/03/2019 - 22:08
        +2

        Then you haven't learnt

    • [Deactivated] on 16/03/2019 - 22:35
      +1

      That's good your open minded.

      You visit any churches to learn something different?

      It's good to learn :)

    • montorola on 16/03/2019 - 23:39
      +3

      Username doesn't correlate

      • ely on 16/03/2019 - 23:50
        +1

        Sure it does; IHatePeople has just learned enough to decide that they actually hate people!

  • jv on 16/03/2019 - 22:06
    +1

    I'm going for the book reading…

    "Book Reading: Aneesa and Jamal go to Masjid: 2pm"

    • Ti-au on 16/03/2019 - 22:10

      "Book Reading: Aneesa and Jamal go to Masjid: 2pm"

      I didn't know you were 3 jv….

      hashtagWitty

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    • pennypincher98 on 16/03/2019 - 22:10
      +2

      Build Your Own Mosque: 11am - 2pm

      I believe this could be a high yield investment.

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      • jv on 16/03/2019 - 22:12
        +4

        BYO mortar?

  • pennypincher98 on 16/03/2019 - 22:08
    +14

    Nothing like a deal involving religion or politics to make everyone up on their soap boxes.

    • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 22:09
      -3

      Nothing like a deal involving religion or politics to bring out the people who don't know what to say but want to feel part of it so they replace contribution with cynicism. golfclaps

  • T-man on 16/03/2019 - 22:09
    +9

    No thanks, for safety reason.

    • gamemaster on 16/03/2019 - 22:15
      +5

      But being in Brisbane isn't the problem? face palm

      • T-man on 16/03/2019 - 22:16
        -1

        My location in Brisbane, it doesn’t mean I stay here

        • CTJR on 16/03/2019 - 22:16
          +6

          …..sure.

      • Lizard Spock on 16/03/2019 - 23:28

        Wow, in the penalty box …

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    • ely on 16/03/2019 - 22:57
      +6

      In all seriousness, I may go… but I won't take my four year old daughter along. Not because I think an attack like Chch is likely, but because a crowd of people like many of those posting here is much more likely and that's unpleasant enough that I don't want her near it.

    • anastasiastarz on 17/03/2019 - 02:40

      Actually I believe security will be super high tomorrow.

      Worked a french event the week after the french shooting, and a marathorn after Boston, security is always extra high after an event like that.

  • amsaini15 on 16/03/2019 - 22:10

    I definitely hate to see innocent people suffering irrespective of their religion.
    At the same time, I hope muslim people and countries around the world should do more to condemn fanatics (again irrespective of religion)
    Also religious, political leaders, social media companies like Facebook, whatsApp, google, etc should be forced to invest heavily in protecting communities against hate photos, videos and comments. If above all do their job, we will not see this repeated again.
    But personal motives, corruption and corporate greed will never allow to bring this in control.

    I would have visited if I was living in VIC.

    • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 22:13
      +5

      Mate just because you didn't see Muslims all over the world condemning fanatics doesn't mean they didn't. They did, loudly over and over and no one was listening because everyone was too busy seeing what they wanted to see and using them as an outlet for their fear. But I agree with you, social media needs to lift their game in weeding out all the terrorist speech - from all groups.

      • mathew42 on 16/03/2019 - 22:31
        +5

        The problem is that those in power define 'terrorist speech'. One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. For example where do you classify the Kurds?

        • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 22:38
          +3

          No, those in power don't define terrorist speech at all. ISIS were never in power but they were the masters at it and frankly all the anti-islam white supremacist rubbish sounds exactly what ISIS were posting all over FB and Twitter at their peak, but with the labels switched around.

          • mathew42 on 16/03/2019 - 22:51
            +1

            @MessyG: Are Kurds freedom fighters or terrorists?
            What about the Chechen Rebels?

            What about Falun Gong? China is persecuting the followers?

            • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 22:56

              @mathew42: GTFO with your whattaboutism, they're weasel words.

              Terrorist speech is an 80 page manifesto some of which spouts what's been written on Ozbargain. If you can't see it you're clearly a terrorist sympathiser.

              • mathew42 on 17/03/2019 - 00:29

                @MessyG: WRONG My point is that in conflicts it is very rare for one side to be 100% morally right. There isn't right or wrong only pain and suffering. You started this by stating that social media should censor terrorist speech. In response, I asked you to define a group as terrorist or not. Facebook struggles to determine if a photo of breast feeding is pornography and you expect them to determine if a group is terrorist or not?

                I've chosen not to read the manifesto of the mass-murderer, because I am confident in the assumption that it contains little of value, however if I did read it, I'm also fairly confident that I could pull out sentences and you would happily agree with them before learning the source. It is the total document and knowledge of the author that add context.

      • Eeples on 16/03/2019 - 23:13
        +1

        My issue is not mainstream Islam condemning Islamic terrorists (I think they do actually).
        My issue is mainstream Islam being largely silent and hence giving tacit approval of anti-gay, misogyny and other social justice issues.

        But, of course, the thread isn’t about that.

        And, of course, this isn’t the time.

        • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 23:16
          +2

          And yet here you are. Having your issues.

          • Eeples on 16/03/2019 - 23:21

            @MessyG: Yeah, i think I’m in shock; like most people I suppose.

            • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 23:24
              +2

              @Eeples: Have you ever even spoken to a Muslim about your issues? Have you ever thought that many of them may have the same issues? Like any Christian who might have those same issues? Or any atheist who lives amongst ultra conservative atheists? Or Jews? These issues are not unique to religion. Bigotry is not unique to religion. To specifically have those issues just with Islam when they are widespread is not right.

              • Eeples on 16/03/2019 - 23:36

                @MessyG: I don’t see how saying other religions are backwards (in terms of supporting social justice issues) just like Islam somehow makes Islam all fine and dandy.

                I do agree that religion is used to maintain tribalism. Just another reason to dislike it.

                • MessyG on 16/03/2019 - 23:37
                  +1

                  @Eeples: But you didn't. You said Islam was. All religions are backward in this regard.

        • Taita on 17/03/2019 - 12:24
          +1

          Sadly most news outlets are not interested in what mainstream islam says or does. That's why most don't get to hear what mainstream Islam says or does.

  • ely on 16/03/2019 - 22:10
    +22

    Damn, all out of negs before even hitting the end of the post. All of the idiots claiming that this is only politics and not a deal, ironically being political and suddenly unable to recognise a discount when it's staring then in the face - if I had some more negs I'd be giving them to you!

  • notbad on 16/03/2019 - 22:15
    +4

    So disappointed with the ozb community and admins
    Please take thiess racist and bigot comments cown ASAP

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