Some decent monitor deals with Dell on eBay, thanks to the PONDER deal.
My pick is probably the S2719DGF for $527.20 - 27", 1440p, 155hz, TN, Freesync. General consensus seems to be that it works well with the G-sync update. Now out of stock Now back in stock, 9 available.
Other deals:
S2716DG for $655.20 - 27", 1440p, 144hz, TN, G-sync.
AW3418DW for $1,399.20 - 34" ultrawide (3440x1440 at 120hz), IPS, G-sync.
Just tested again, and works fine for me on the 2719. Have you got your store set to US or some other country perhaps?
Thanks for checking - I've tried checking out in a different browser as a guest and it works there. (Its a very old account (2001) and I've lived in a few countries since, but never had issues with a code before.)
This is a smidge below the global price for the S2719DGF, though obviously a lot better than the $819 listed on Dell Australia's website…
I believe this has the updated AUO TN panel for 2019, but while true 8-bit, it doesn't have its colour gamut extended beyond sRGB. Still, it's probably the best TN panel on the market right now.
Are TN panels as bad as people say? I've always gone IPS, but am after a 144hz+ screen for gaming and work. Worth checking out?
This one isn't that bad for its colour reproduction, and is well reviewed in that sense. The disadvantage compared to IPS for SDR gaming is the range of viewing angles, but if your desk is properly set up, that should be a very minor gripe for gaming.
For professional colour work, IPS is still king.
The disadvantage compared to IPS for SDR gaming is the range of viewing angles
That and it looks awful compared to an IPS because of poor colour reproduction. Doesn't matter if it's the best TN panel.
@Diji1: It looks worse than most IPS (outside of gaming anyway) for a number of reasons, but colour re-production is lower down that list from the numerous reviews and user feedback i've read.
@Xizor: I think the biggest issue here is that the ultimate execution of this panel should produce in excess of 90% of the DCI-P3, meaning it could pretty much pinch hit at the HDR400 standard when well constructed.
This Dell isn't that, but it's a competitive offering until such products emerge. If you're more focused on a rich image, the CHG70 might be the best choice to dabble in HDR gaming compared to typical IPS offerings, even for 120+ fps content if you use its motion blur reduction tech to the fullest.
Doesn't matter if it's the best TN panel.
Ah, yes it does. Read any remotely technical review and you'll be able to see that. IPS' strength is colour uniformity across viewing angles, and when well calibrated, colour accuracy as a result of that.
This TN update delivers better colour uniformity and accuracy compared to its predecessors, diminishing the trade off between the two, save for the viewing angle. In fact, because of how well perfected these technologies are now, people are starting to opt for VA panels like the CHG70 from Samsung and MSI's latest Optix offerings because they'll cop a tiny bit of ghosting in high FPS content for vastly superior contrast (a trade-off that's long been made in the TV market).
There's updates coming for IPS and VA offerings this year too, but the first one so far has been from Innolux with an IPS that sports a wider colour gamut, and it hasn't been particularly well received. TN isn't going to be the same compromise it was 2 years ago, especially when we start seeing 8-bit+FRC 240hz panels with extended gamuts.
@jasswolf: Interesting thanks. I am in the market for a new monitor. I initially looked at the CHG70 but the stand and quality control is just a bit too off putting. I'm completely stumped on what to get TBH, i may just cheap out on this Dell next time and live with TN for another year or so.
@Xizor: I'm holding out for a better TN implementation… even a scrub Viotek one that's out in the US looks very promising once calibrated, though I don't think it technically supports wide colour modes.
The 27" CHG70 has been as low as $470 before, so unless it's discontinued that's still a solid option on sale.
TN are just terrible to look at if your head is off centre, like leaning back in a chair. This monitor is slightly better in colour reproduction than other TN panels, if you're looking head on, but still bad compared to IPS/VA. The viewing angles on TN panels make me never want to use one again after experiencing IPS and VA.
So I guess if you don't care about dulling and colour wash outs when you shift your head around a bit, this monitor is probably the best TN going around and it's a good deal at that price.
Thanks - that's what I thought. IPS it is! ;)
I went from an IPS to a TN (Dell & Samsung). I dunno about other people but i find it pretty easy to position my monitor and my head so this is rarely an issue. I find it a bit baffling others gripe about this unless they are using it for off-center media viewing, in which case monitors are just terribly bad value for it anyway. That said i am on the look out for a good IPS deal ha!
@Xizor: FTC have the xb271hu for 760 after discounts
nevermind they literally just price jacked it to 1100
rofl
Honestly, once you go ips you can't go back.
That would be a bad decision if you only played competitive shooters or wanted the greatest advantage.
I have both side by side. TN isn't that bad but its the best for gaming. I can't game on my IPS vs my gsync TN panel. IPS is absolutely horrid for FPS games.
I went from IPS to SVA, no regrets.
I went from IPS to this. Honesty I'd take 155Hz over anything.
How does this new panel compares to the Acer Predator Xb271HU? Price of the acer is AUD663 on sydneytec ebay
Sorry forgot to mention the one i was looking at was a TN panel
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Acer-Predator-XB271HUA-27-in…
Close call, because GSync has black-frame insertion as part of its offering (ULMB), so a fairer comparison would be the GSync version of this panel, which you can see here.
You'll have to decide if that's a feature you need to further smooth out motion blur, and get closer to an appearance of 1ms persistence, which is what all these blur reduction technologies are trying to do at the moment, though that comes at the cost of panel brightness. It also cannot be easily enabled in combination with adaptive sync (because it often doesn't work very well when you combine them).
If I was buying today, I'd be looking for deals on Samsung's CHG70, but that seems to be on the verge of being discontinued, and has already seen some great sales, like this:
Damn $100 less then what I paid for my AW3418DW
Same, although I bought it nearly 12 months ago. beautiful screen.
Yea, it's been getting lower and lower from what I paid for it in December. I've just been claiming the difference back with my 28 degrees.
It will only continue to drop in price, they're overdue for a new model.
I have seen them cheaper but that only happens like once a year. This is a very good deal and if you are in the market I would jump on it! Just ordered the S2719DGF, thanks for posting it mate
is LCD ok?
Are there cheaper high-res 27" Dell TN monitors not necessarily for gaming, just basic work?
Not in this sale - there a couple of other 27" around $400 pre-discount, but 1080p only.
Yes. If you just need one for work, you don't need high refresh monitors. 60hz will do you fine.
Never even thought to check if a non G-Sync advertised monitor could actually be compatible…. mind blown!
$527 is a bargain for a 27" QHD G-sync TN panel from a reputable brand I reckon - good find!
Man, I just told myself I don't need a new gaming monitor.
Does dell ebay sneds receipt that can claim tru TRS?
You are going to take a monitor o/s with you?
They don't always check the items.
Really?
Every time I've been at TRS, they literally make you take out the item and place it on their counter.
@Deviner: Well, the last time I went through customs they didn't ask to see the items, even though I had them in my carry on luggage, but I must have just looked trustworthy. 😉
When I ordered in Dec last year, I got a proper invoice that would have been suitable for TRS.
I have an ASUS TN panel next to an old IPS Dell and the ASUS is just awful to look at.
The Dell S2719DGF actually has much better colour depth then standard TN panels. It's not quite IPS but for gaming it's very good and i don't think you can get anything comparable 27" 144hz and gsync for even close to that price.
The IPS in the same series has already been linked and the colour depth doesn't mean TN looks good compared to IPS.
Isn't IPS a better choice? Just checking…
Pros and cons on both. Unless you're paying $1000+ to get an IPS with 144hz+ then you get IPS with 60 or 75hz. TN doesn't reproduce colours as well and viewing angles are poor, but it is relatively cheap to get a 144hz or even 240hz panel. IPS reproduces colours much better than TN does, but you cannot get 144hz without paying through the nose. If you have the cash to fork out for an IPS with 144hz it's definitely a good choice.
I have gamer mates that kept telling me about 144hz and how good it is, I don't usually care for that sort of stuff, my standard 1080p was fine. I just upgraded to a 144hz screen and I can't believe the difference for gaming. If you're playing fast paced FPS or the like, 144hz is a huge difference. The difference is day and night!
If you're not interested in fast paced gaming, then an IPS screen at 60hz would be fine. You also need to factor in that for 144hz+, you need to have a graphics card that will have enough power to feed the 144 frames per second. You'd need a ridiculous GFX card to pump out ultra graphics at 4k at 144hz. I went with a bugdet 1080p 144hz panel and it's good enough for me.
If you're a competitive gamer, TN panels are capable of much shorter response times, and are typically better value. You can get high refresh with g-sync or freesync for reasonable prices. To get the same capabilities on an IPS will be very expensive. But you still won't be able to get 2 ms response on an IPS.
If you aren't after a competitive advantage, go for the one that looks nicer, which is IPS.
Thanks OP, bought the USB-C one with IPS panel in the end!
can't see the S2719DGF on the Dell ebay store, is it out of stock?
Yep, thanks. Have marked it above.
I'm looking at the AW3418DW 34". Item location: Sydney, Estimated between Thu. 21 Mar. and Thu. 28 Mar… WTF!? I'm 30 mins from Brisbane.
Thanks, just bought a S2716DG.
Finally moving on from 1080p. Time to watch out for a better GPU. Dont think my GTX 970 is going to cut it.
Hi Guys,
Just got a notification from my watch list. The Dell S2719DGF is back in stock
Been umming and ahhing all day yesterday with these monitors!
I've got a Dell 28" 4K and it's been pretty handy playing Civ/Football Manager in a window at 1440p and being able to just change windows without the alt-tab
I dont really play FPS, so my brain says I don't need 144Hz. ….My heart however wants the 144Hz goodness!
I got a S2719DGF at the end of last year for a smidge under $500 from dell online, great monitor, it sort of sucks if you're not straight on with it but I'm not looking at my monitor from an angle so it's fine, but it was also the absolute cheapest 144hz+ non curved monitor i could find online and for that price it's amazing.
edit: works well with the gync update with overdrive on @ 155hz
Which display port cables did everyone buy to get these puppies up and running @ 155hz?
I went the S2719DGF route.
Any recommendations on DP -> DP or DP -> mDP would be appreciated :D
YOU SIR ARE THE MAN!
They're cheaper then most other options (in store and online) AND they include shipping! Wohoo!
And you don't have to worry about whether the 20th pin is wired or not:
I'm pretty sure Dell provides a cable with the monitor that is capable of it's maximum hz.
Reports say its only HDMI, which is up to 144 hz.. If you want to overclock to 155 you'll need DP
This code seems to not be working? Anyone else?
Hey guys, there seems to be a bug with this code. eBay tried to fix it on their end but some accounts just won't work. I switched account and it worked perfect.
Just got an email from Dell regarding my S2716DG:
We have been informed that due to a stock shortage we are unable to fulfill the monitor you have ordered according to our shipping time frame. Sincere apologies for this.
Due to the issue, we would like to offer you the following options:
The estimated time that the monitor will be fulfilled is within 8 weeks. If you are willing to wait, we can still process your order and upgrade the warranty from 3 years to 4 years.
You can visit our official website: https://www.dell.com/en-au and look for a monitor that you want at an equal/similar price and we can fulfill it instead.
Cancel your order and we can provide a full refund.
That's infuriating
The PONDER Code on the S2719DGF returns "This code can't be applied to your order." Is that just due to Dell being slow to enable the code?