Xiaomi Pocophone F1 128GB/6GB $433.35 Delivered @ Hkbns eBay

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  spriggan43 on 03/03/2019 - 02:25

  +12

  Looks nice but No band 28. Am I doing this right?

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    zooboy on 03/03/2019 - 03:11

    +14

    you forgot no nfc

    • garage sale on 03/03/2019 - 08:43 Comment score below threshold.
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        willus259 on 03/03/2019 - 13:06

        +8

        I have to take my wallet out to pay for stuff like a pleb if I buy this phone?! What?!

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        p1 ama on 03/03/2019 - 16:59

        +1

        happy carry your wallet and pull it out to pay for things

        You're making it sound like this is not what the overwhelming majority of people do. I get a morning coffee/tea every day and almost always eat out for lunch. When I'm in line, almost everyone pays with card. Only a small minority actually use their phone to pay.

        Having tried it myself, I find it much slower to have to unlock my phone, go to the right app and do all that stuff whereas I could just keep my card in my pocket and pay in a second.

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          dotJaz on 03/03/2019 - 17:19

          +3

          @p1 ama: Huh? It takes literally less than 1 second to unlock and pay. You don't need to go to "the right app".

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            bargainparker on 03/03/2019 - 19:44

            +1

            @dotJaz: you must be the fastest gun alive. It takes me 5 minutes to find mine 👌

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        cv05 on 03/03/2019 - 19:09

        +1

        @garage sale - not sure why the downvotes, I'm with you. Don't take my wallet anywhere anymore, so convenient to fingerprint unlock phone and hold it to the terminal.

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          xavierod on 03/03/2019 - 19:44

          @cv05: Watch payments even better

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            bargainparker on 03/03/2019 - 19:44

            @xavierod: Telepathy next

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        Bargain80 on 03/03/2019 - 20:16

        +3

        Band 28 is not a problem if you use Vodafone network. I never use NFC and never will so it's not a problem as well.

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        lostn on 04/03/2019 - 09:41

        +2

        Find me a phone with the same specs and B28 for this price.

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        lostn on 04/03/2019 - 18:38

        +1

        people are more likely to forget their wallets than phones.

        I'm the opposite. I forget my phone quite a lot. Wallet I've never forgotten though, because it's in my pants. And also muscle memory to always check since it's always in the same pocket. For my phone, which pocket I put it in depends on what I'm wearing, and I don't have the muscle memory habit of touching a pocket to check for the phone.

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  hopper on 03/03/2019 - 06:57

  +8

  Those specs mostly match my $1000 note 9 🤔

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    Snoopy113 on 03/03/2019 - 18:50

    +6

    I think this phone only has 3 Gorillas in the glass wheras your note has 5 gorillas

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      hopper on 03/03/2019 - 19:31

      I think the flat surface is more robust than the curved surface 😔

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      Bargain80 on 03/03/2019 - 20:14

      Not sure if the phone can even fit one gorilla

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  FindMeADeal on 03/03/2019 - 07:21

  +1

  This is massive phone for the price.

  If you do need band 28 and NFC… Oneplus 6 (8gb RAM and 128gig storage) is good value for money on what it offers.

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  Snacky on 03/03/2019 - 07:50

  +2

  Great phone, I just can't stand the notch :(.

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    pinkybrain on 03/03/2019 - 08:18

    +4

    same here..

    more notchless phones are coming so wait it out
    and eventually this stupid notch madness ends

    thanks to stupid apple for making notches more common
    and the android makers stupidly following apple.

    the notch totally wrecks a bezel-less design

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      garage sale on 03/03/2019 - 08:40

      notch has to do with shorter phones and larger screen areas. the left and right notch usually has info such as signal strength, transmission type, missed called, missed sms, etc and the camera in the middle. this leaves 1920x1080 clear for images ….. if they remove the notch like on my nokia then the phones is about 8mm longer …..

      you can loose the notch if you want a longer phone.

      if you can come up with a design that fits the same amount of information into to the screen and phone size with no notch then patent the design as you would be smarter than the phone designers and have solved a problem they couldn’t.

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        pinkybrain on 04/03/2019 - 00:22

        I am talking about when using it in immersive mode
        where no info is showing at all…

        https://www.imore.com/iphone-xs-storage

        of course you need the signal info etc under normal usage
        but it disappears when you are in immersive mode.

        but now there is permanent cutout when using it in immersive mode.
        and if you don't want to lose that part of the screen
        then you need to be out of immersive mode and in full screen mode
        which makes the movie/display even smaller than an iphone 8

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        lostn on 04/03/2019 - 09:44

        Turn the notch into a forehead.

        Move the notification bar down a little bit. Same length phone.

        You can try to hide the notch but unless it's an OLED, it's still pretty obvious due to the backlight.

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    p1 ama on 03/03/2019 - 17:00

    Then disable the notch. I've never really understood why people are so anti-notch. It's there if you want it, disable it if you don't want it and you're back to where you would have been if there was literally no notch.

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      pinkybrain on 04/03/2019 - 00:17

      what do you mean disable the notch?
      it is a permanent missing part of the screen
      how do you make it show that part of the screen when in immersive mode?

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        Lu99ke on 04/03/2019 - 08:17

        In most notched phones, there are settings to permanently Balck out the top of the screen either side of notch… Effectively moves the top of the screen down to the bottom of the both and returns you back to a flat design….

        Even if your phone doesn't have that setting there are apps avaialble that do it.

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          lostn on 04/03/2019 - 09:46

          @Lu99ke: You can still tell the notch is there due to the backlight coming from the black side bars.

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            bargainparker on 04/03/2019 - 14:24

            @lostn: Picky. It's a great phone.

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          pinkybrain on 04/03/2019 - 15:49

          @Lu99ke: so what is the point of having an all bezel display then if you are just going to how black bars on the top and bottom?

          If you look at something like the mi mix 3 or other designs that have notches at all, now that is what a true all bezel display should look like.

          these stupid notches just ruin the screen when you are in immersive mode (ie showing all the display up to the bezel)

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            p1 ama on 04/03/2019 - 17:07

            @pinkybrain:

            so what is the point of having an all bezel display then if you are just going to how black bars on the top and bottom?

            Instead of thinking of the notch as a missing part of the screen, think of it as an additional piece of screen you are getting if you want it. If you don't want it, then disable the notch and you will have a black bar up the top where the camera and earpiece are. This is (quite literally) what every single smartphone in history has done up until the recent innovations (e.g. Mi Mix 3) which have a sliding (or other) design allowing it to hide the earpiece and front camera.

            If you disable the notch on this phone, it will look like the Galaxy S9 screen, just a rectangle. Think the issue is that you've just not used a phone with a notch before and are ranting and raving about a non-issue.

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              pinkybrain on 05/03/2019 - 08:45

              @p1 ama: it is a non issue to you
              but for many people who hate the notch it is an issue..

              anyway there are newer phones without this notch,
              and many phones in the future will definitely will be notchless

              You still haven't argue against my point about the notch looking shit in immersive mode.

              If you hide the notch like you said
              then you lose a portion of the top part of the screen so what is the point of the getting a fully bezel less display?

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              pinkybrain on 05/03/2019 - 08:46

              @p1 ama: what notch phone do you own?

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            lostn on 04/03/2019 - 18:17

            @pinkybrain: I don't mind having a black bar. But when there's part of a bar there cut out, it's distracting and hard to ignore. You will notice it whether you want to or not.

            Hiding it is an ok solution. But then you have a forehead but no chin and the lack of symmetry is also easy to notice.

            I personally don't have a problem with small bezels like with the S8 and S9. There's enough screen that I don't find myself wishing there was more of it.

            If you disable the notch on this phone, it will look like the Galaxy S9 screen, just a rectangle. Think the issue is that you've just not used a phone with a notch before and are ranting and raving about a non-issue.

            The artificial black bar and the notch do not look the same. Even with an OLED display, you can still see the difference. But with an LCD, you can't turn off the backlight.

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              pinkybrain on 05/03/2019 - 08:45

              @lostn: what phone do you own?

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                lostn on 05/03/2019 - 19:15

                @pinkybrain: S6 -> S8 -> S10 as my daily driver.

                I have other phones for part time use.

                Depending on the display, black LCD does not look like black bezel because the backlight can't be turned off.

                You can arguably call it a first world problem, but so is wishing there was slightly more screen on a forehead which was the reason the notch was invented.

                Instead of thinking of the notch as a missing part of the screen, think of it as an additional piece of screen you are getting if you want it. If you don't want it, then disable the notch and you will have a black bar up the top where the camera and earpiece are.

                If you disable the notch on this phone, it will look like the Galaxy S9 screen, just a rectangle.

                Let us put this claim to the test.

                If you look at the screen to body ratio of notched phones like XS Max, it's 84.4%. For the S9+ which has both a chin and a forehead it's 84.2% only a fraction less than the notched phone. What did you actually gain in screen ratio from that notch? 0.2%. This is because Apple could not eliminate a slight black border around the four sides of the screen.

                Meanwhile, S10+ which has no notch, a slight forehead and slight chin plus a hole punch (I'm not a fan of that either) is sitting at 88.9% which is higher than the XS Max and most notched phones.

                For comparison's sake, the Pocophone F1's ratio is 82.2%, which is less than the S9+ with a forehead instead of a notch. Oops.

                So did you really gain more screen for that notch? Notched phones look like they give you more screen due to their shape, but actually the notch came at a cost, which is a black border around the other sides that they could not reduce.

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  MojoMiwo on 03/03/2019 - 11:32

  +1

  Great phone.
  Positives
  - Fantastic battery life, great performance, gtray value, dual sim, Can install customised roms (eg LineageOS 16.0), camera descent, notch can be hidden, Android 9 pie update available
  Negatives
  - No NFC, When wearing polarised glasses screen goes black (polarised) but installing a glass screen protector seems to have fixed this issue.

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    Lu99ke on 04/03/2019 - 08:19

    Camera only decent once you install lineage OS and the Google camera port .

    Easy for people that are that way inclined.. but 95% people won't

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    Melbro2006 on 04/03/2019 - 12:55

    A friend has been using it and good value for the price but there are no decent protective covers for this phone.

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  furyou on 03/03/2019 - 17:01

  +3

  is hkbns good/bad?

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    KinghtRider on 03/03/2019 - 19:55

    +1

    They are good. Ordered a OnePlus 6 and it arrived in perfect condition. If they have a lot of sales there may be a slight delay in post.

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  p1 ama on 03/03/2019 - 17:02

  +1

  My opinion is that the Xiaomi Mi 8 is a nicer phone than the Pocophone F1 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Xiaomi-Mi-8-Dual-SIM-6GB-64G…)

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    willturner on 04/03/2019 - 00:34

    Would prefer mi 8 also.

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    lostn on 04/03/2019 - 09:50

    +3

    No headphone jack.

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  Alan Laz on 03/03/2019 - 20:20

  +1

  I have one of these, my LG G4's faults (battery and heat) got me in the end.

  The lack of an app drawer on the Poco was a 5 minute distraction, but all good now

  Screen is good, VF performance amongst the tram tracks excellent

  It's a wifi hot spot duirng the week and never misses a beat

  Nice images

  NFC? I just tap my card; never used NFC on the LG (soometimes I even use cash; does my bank need to know how much frivolous spending I do…)

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  NVidia Sucks on 04/03/2019 - 11:31

  get Xiaomi 9 Instead

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    nickj on 04/03/2019 - 12:25

    Areas where the Xiaomi Mi 9 wins: Has band 28, has NFC, has Gorilla Glass 6, weighs 10 grams less, snapdragon 855 instead of 845, and in-display fingerprint reader versus rear fingerprint reader; Areas where the Xiaomi Pocophone F1 wins: has headphone jack versus no jack, a bigger battery (4000 versus 3300 mAh), and price (~AU$450 versus ~AU$630 using ballpark prices, so around AU$180 less) : https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9507&idPhone2…

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      bargainparker on 04/03/2019 - 14:31

      No point talking about who wins what when they are not really in similar price range. That's almost $200 difference.

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        nickj on 04/03/2019 - 17:13

        Agree completely. The subtext was that the Mi 9 is a better phone, but it's another 40% of the cost. Would make more sense to compare the Mi 9 against old flagships that have come down a lot in price, to roughly the same price range, such as the Samsung S8.

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          p1 ama on 04/03/2019 - 20:01

          @nickj: The Mi 9 wipes the floor with the S8, would be fairer to compare it to the S9.

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            nickj on 05/03/2019 - 16:08

            @p1 ama: Sure, but then you have a big price jump, and the reason for comparing it to the S8 was to keep the price range similar. In the Samsungs you'll pay more for the same chipset as the Xiaomis, but the flip-side is that the Samsungs will usually be via an Australian store with all that entails (ACL, 2 years warranty, option to return to manufacturer or retailer, credit card options with the right card like price protection or extended warranty, and TRS refund), and most of those things you simply don't get when purchasing a phone through an overseas seller on eBay.