Envi-R Energy Monitor for $99.95 (Incl. Free Shipping) - Normally 139.95

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  [Deactivated] on 03/05/2011 - 11:10

  -1

  It seems to me that this one that can monitor 3 things at once for $79.95, while not looking as pretty, is much better value.

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    Megahowler on 03/05/2011 - 11:26

    The above monitor installs in your meter box measuring your entire households energy.. not just a power point like the one you have linked

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      oz-dxer on 03/05/2011 - 11:28

      But its a "C' clamp so you can couple it to any power lead.
      just depends on what the minimum current resolution is

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        c64 on 03/05/2011 - 12:48

        i think that only the active wire is clamped around. if you clamp around both active + neutral then the clamp will measure nett zero current/power. so clamping around an extension cord won't work.

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        turbodude on 04/05/2011 - 10:07

        It would have to be around only the active or neutral wire, not both.

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      [Deactivated] on 03/05/2011 - 11:33

      Fair enough. The fact it has a wireless read out makes that practical if you want to go around turning things off and on.

      EDIT That said, the website clearly indicates the clamp must be installed by a qualified electrician.

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        Click_It on 03/05/2011 - 11:43

        I have a similar (older model one from Jaycar) but essentially the same thing. I had my sparky install mine, cost my a 6 pack of beer. It took him 30 seconds, after seeing how simple it was I've since installed them myself for friends and family. There is nothing to it although I think technically it's illegal to mess in there.

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        Click_It on 03/05/2011 - 11:46

        Also, the whole house monitoring is second to none. I have a computer which tracks all the data. I have everything logged for the last 20 months. Great way to avoid / curb any future energy bill scares. Once you've used one of these you will throw away the other plug-in units.

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    mini_wombat on 03/05/2011 - 11:36

    +1

    I would disagree - different type of monitoring … you plug these things inbetween the socket and your device. These are great when you want to monitor a specific device which is plugged in (and not hardwired). The envi-R (or similar devices) is installed at the meter and tracks your whole house consumption. So I would say you can't really compare these devices.

    I got the device in combination with a solar system to minimize my standby so that I can make full use of the feed in tariff. I can see straight away on the display how much my solar system is feeding back to the grid and helps me maximising the saving. When you only track a few appliances you will not be able to do this.

    It is not a mainstream product and definitely not for everybody.

    (Personal opinion: every household should have a device like this … we use far too much energy in Australia.

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      jazzymc on 03/05/2011 - 13:12

      Hi mini_wombat,

      Just a question, if I buy just the standard monitor pack ($139.95), can that just be used for solar monitoring or do you have to buy the solar pack which is more expensive? I noticed in your comment above that you use it for solar monitoring and consumption monitoring, but purchased it for $139.95, so which one did you buy?

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        mini_wombat on 03/05/2011 - 13:33

        +2

        Hi Jazzymc,

        my deal is not existing anymore as I bought an envi-r + trec + bridge for $249.
        Looks like they do not have any package with the bridge anymore.

        Would not spend that much money anymore.

        In my opinion a second display is wasted money. I only use one as the envi-r can show the consumption and the production of the solar system (only one at a time … so you need to push a button to swap the display.). On top of that I have my inverter which shows also the production … so there is no need for a second device. The bridge is only necessary when you want the data online in google powermeter or my currentcost (http://my.currentcost.com/) (when you want to use this the device must be next to your router/modem (connect via included CAT5 cable ).

        You can also use the envi-r for only solar monitoring … so that you see how much energy your solar system is producing. No need for a solar package … what you will see on the display just depends on which cable you attach the clamp.

        Hope this helps.

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  Cheap Steve on 03/05/2011 - 11:22

  It would be very interesting to know a breakdown of your actual electricity costs. Particularly on stand-by.

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  neil on 03/05/2011 - 11:24

  +8

  The Yarra Libraries (Inner Melbourne) lets you borrow similar devices (Powermate and Lux Meter) for a few days so you can test all your appliances. http://www.yarracity.vic.gov.au/Environment/Education/Enviro…

  I suspect other libraries around Australia may have similar services.

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  Jean-Baptiste on 03/05/2011 - 11:24

  +1

  OP, could you link to the actual product instead of just the website? It's unclear what this $99.95 includes.

  For example, how many appliances/powerpoints can this meter measure simultaneously? For example, I purchased a meter that measures a single powerpoint for under $20, 3 years ago.

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    mini_wombat on 03/05/2011 - 11:53

    +1

    Added: https://store.smartnow.com.au/product.php?id_product=10

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  oz-dxer on 03/05/2011 - 11:27

  Your $300 saving is over a year i expect, which is a good saving.
  Your airconds alone seem to be using $260 of power in standby (@22c KWh)
  Assuming that you have small units (having 4) and they are used for 8 hours a day for 5 days equates to about $50 in power to keep cool over summer.
  4units x 1.5kw x 8hrs x 5days x $22kwh = $52.80.
  Its interesting the costs as they probably cost $5-6,000 to buy and install :)

  Doesnt seem worth it for 5 days doest it……. until its stinking hot………

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    mini_wombat on 03/05/2011 - 11:52

    +1

    Hehe … fully agree. I would have never installed 4 aircons. But they came with the house we bought … so not much of a choice. Crazy. Thought about selling them on ebay … but not worth it.

    By the way: The previous owners had a energy bill of around $300 per month … we are down to $120 and now with the solar system we are at $30.
    Yep … that is down from $3600 to $360 (!!!)

    How did we do this:
    - change the downlights from 50W to 20W or retrofit to LED in always on zones (we have around 40 downlights)
    - Pool pump is now managed … runs only 2 hours on night tariff
    - bought energy efficent appliances which you can time to the night tariff (our washing machine, dryer, dishwasher only runs after 11pm, 5* fridge)
    - eliminated nearly all standby (we are down to around a 100W always on standby). Only appliances on: Alarm system, greaywater pump, heating, electric garage door, Wirless LAN, Mediaserver, 2x alarm clocks
    - Aircon runs only on days over 30C max for 1 hour … usually only one room is cooled down + bedrooms for kids.
    - lights are turned off when not used

    Our daily usage is now around 6-8 kWh. We would be able to go down even more but we are home nearly all the time and work from there. The standard Australian Household uses 18 kWh.

    You can save without a energy monitoring device .. it just helps you a little bit.

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      oz-dxer on 03/05/2011 - 12:07

      I have a 2.1kw solar system and still use 40kwh per day
      I operate a business from home, (plus the family (kids) are lazy turning things off. Although they seem quite capable of turning every switch they pass on…..)

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        mini_wombat on 03/05/2011 - 12:48

        It all comes down to house size, number of people, time at home and type of business. But 40kWh … wow … that is a lot.
        Not sure about your tariff but I reckon you don't make money on your solar system (too small) and might even pay more now as you can't feed back to the grid?

        Hehe … kids … tell me about it … especially Xbox, TV and such things use a lot. Link the pocket money to their consumption. My kid turns off the computer at the powerpoint to save standby and is now really good with the lights … took 2-3 months.

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  oz-dxer on 03/05/2011 - 11:36

  Or for $17.50 (if still available) you can monitor individual points
  http://www.rockby.com.au/MO021210.pdf page 8
  i used it successfully to check pc power usage on running VS standby etc.

  I think jaycar, electus and altronics also have them.

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  h4lcyon on 03/05/2011 - 11:40

  This has a clamp that goes in your meterbox, so it monitors the whole house.

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  Vladdo on 03/05/2011 - 11:40

  I'm guessing you need to get a sparky in to install such a device? Is it a big job?

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    h4lcyon on 03/05/2011 - 11:42

    In QLD yes, but it's pretty simple. Take the clamp, clamp it around your main power cable and your done.

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      Click_It on 03/05/2011 - 11:50

      Exactly what he said. It'll take you twice as long opening the box as it does installing it. If you do get a sparky negotiate his fee first because it will only take him 30 seconds, that's if he is slow :)

      And since it's probably exactly the same as my older model, the D-Cell battery in the meterbox (handles the wireless transmitting) lasts for years. Mines 2 years old and still showing full battery. This was the single best investment to my house in years, I still love it. Make sure you get some software to log everything, or use the google one.

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  CatseyeHardcast on 03/05/2011 - 11:41

  Agree that you can't compare devices that monitor individual power points to this one.

  Not sure if this is a bargain.but only because I don't know of other devices out there that do the same thing..(monitor the entire house holds consumption, not just a single powerpoint like others have mentioned)

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  h4lcyon on 03/05/2011 - 11:44

  +6

  BTW - if you are in QLD you can get a similar device for $50 installed + up to 15 compact fluros and and a water saving shower head.

  http://www.climatesmarthome.com/

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    [Deactivated] on 03/05/2011 - 11:47

    I'm not in QLD :(

    But that's a cool deal.

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    mini_wombat on 03/05/2011 - 11:56

    Great deal … looks like a similar device. When you are in QLD this is a must in my opinion … !!!

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      altomic on 03/05/2011 - 16:58

      I did the Queensland climate smart $50 deal.
      It's excellent. gives a good idea of what power you are actually using. and what uses it.
      Turn on a device and watch the meter climb.
      70% of the day/night our energy bill is <300watts per hour (everything goes off except the fridge, phone, cable modem).
      Low wattage globes everywhere.
      use free standing lamps instead of the multiple globe "chandeliers".
      put a 200 watt power supply in my comp (the original had blown).
      no standby items allowed.

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    Charlotta on 03/05/2011 - 18:10

    +1

    Most Queenslanders are probably aware of this Qld State Government program from the TV advertising. Also a number of local councils will pay the $50 gap for you - including Brisbane City Council. Check the website of your local Qld council to see if they do this.

    The hidden T&C in this 'deal' is that when you sign on you actually sign-over to the State Government the right to the carbon inputs from the emissions saved by your lowered consumption. So if your motivation is to lower emissions (rather than or as well as costs) you will effectively be thwarted by the State Government making less effort to lower their own emissions because they are using your reductions to off-set their need to make reductions. I'm not sure for how long they "own" these savings of yours. I wasn't aware of this condition until after the electrician had finished the work and when he asked me to sign his computer-screen. As it was electronic signature I didn't get to keep a copy to re-read it later - which seems dodgy if it is a contract. Not sure how long the cooling off period of this contract might have been!

    Re the 15 compact fluro's - many people are not aware of the need for caution in the handling and disposal of CFL bulbs. Mercury gas from broken bulbs is toxic if inhaled in a closed space - so if one breaks stay clear, open windows and use caution to clean up. Similarly much greater care needs to be taken with disposal of CFL's when they lose their brightness. They should go un-broken to recycling plants whereby the mercury can be recovered and thus kept out of local eco-systems. Some local council libraries are now accepting them for disposal/recycling.

    I think there are efforts and regulations in some overseas jurisdictions to replace and to ban CFLs that have any mercury - but Australia is a long way behind in this - and particularly behind in public education about the risks, proper handling and channels for receycling/safe disposal.

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  giggity on 03/05/2011 - 12:16

  "tracks your entire household's energy use"…

  erm… isn't what everyone's existing power-meter already does?

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    mini_wombat on 03/05/2011 - 12:32

    +2

    It tracks it in real time … which means you can see how much power your house uses at the moment (so it track Watt or Kilowatt). That helps you to adjust your usage and track down devices which use a lot of power.

    The normal meter installed tracks only how much energy you used (so it tracks kWh … Kilowatthours).

    Example:
    Your usage at the moment is 0W. You turn on a light (which uses 40W) … so the display jumps to 40W.
    When you leave that light on for 1 hour … your meter would show 0.04kWh more.

    kWh is a measure of energy, whilst kW or W is a measure of power…

    So really hard to find out instantly which electric device consumes a lot power when you only have your energy meter … as you never have only 1 device running. (Not impossible … but really difficult and time consuming to do.)

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    altomic on 03/05/2011 - 17:01

    if you have the wireless meter then you can walk up to a device, turn it on, and then check how much power it is using.

    rather than walk outside, check power consumption, walk inside, turn on item, walk outside and try to compare the archaic dial meter before and after.

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      mini_wombat on 03/05/2011 - 17:18

      +1

      Careful … the Envi-R is not really wireless to run around with it …it still needs to be attached to the power plug. Just the transfer of the data is wireless … so you do not need a data cable from the meter to the Envi-R.

      There are some devices available which are completely wireless and run with a battery.

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        warrenkole on 03/05/2011 - 17:54

        Well that put a halt to my purchase.

        I assumed that the LCD unit (the white thing in the picture) was battery operated so that you could walk around the house with it checking every appliance's power usage.

        Can you suggest any other similar devices that are portable? Thanks.

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        mini_wombat on 04/05/2011 - 13:44

        @warrenkole: somebody posted a different deal in this thread:

        http://www.megabuy.com.au/mains-wireless-power-monitor-p2042…

        This one works on batteries … but does not have all the features of the envi-r. Similar price (not sure if you can get it anywhere else cheaper than in the link posted).

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        [Deactivated] on 04/05/2011 - 14:16

        Someone else also mentioned the Efergy product:

        http://www.topbuy.com.au/tbcart/pc/Efergy-Energy-Saving-Mete…

        It's cheaper (~$75 delivered) and it's go an ad with Johanna Griggs in it!

        EDIT Ah damnit, it was half that on COTD a week ago.

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  hellrazorone on 03/05/2011 - 12:46

  Why is the cost so much different to the UK?
  Currently the EnviR units are GPB$50 each (on eBay or Amazon) which equals AUD$76
  So why are two units in Australia $259.95?
  Are the units here any different?

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    mini_wombat on 03/05/2011 - 12:56

    +1

    The plug will be different … (you need to plug in the monitor … uses around 3W). Don't think that there are any other differences … (UK runs the same Voltage as we do.) As usual … UK and US are always cheaper. Only problem it is sold by the manufacturer Current Cost and they do not ship to Australia.

    99.95 including shipping is the cheapest I found for the Australian model (which should be only the plug).

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    tassie Pete on 03/05/2011 - 19:55

    They're even cheaper than that, as there's 20% VAT included in the £49.95 UK price.

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  mini_wombat on 03/05/2011 - 13:02

  Haha … enough posting now from me … feel like a rep (no I am not in any way linked to this company … :-) … just very passionate about energy saving.

  Ok … the deal has 4 positive votes compared to 121 for the Asian Beer Collection deal … mhhhhhh ( I somehow expected this … haha … at least I can buy now a lot of beer with my savings from my energybill.)

  You can save energy even without this device! But it helps a little bit.

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    [Deactivated] on 03/05/2011 - 18:54

    I'm a big fan of saving energy, but this does seem to be similar to a bunch of other products around the same price (like this and the aforementioned different but to be used for a similar purpose 3-mains one).

    Add to that the legal need for a qualified electrician (and a practical need in my case - my fuse box and main switches for the building don't have anything visible I could attach this thing to) and the fact you've provided us with the information we're going to learn anyway - ie leave stuff off, not on standby…

    I mean, the only competitive products I've found are priced the same, and everything you're going to learn from it, while interesting, is going to be fairly obvious common sense stuff.

    It's certainly not worth a negative, but it doesn't really grab me as anything special.

    shrug

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      mini_wombat on 03/05/2011 - 20:12

      This device is also not bad … I like that you can use batteries and carry it around. You also would need a sparky to install it.
      It is only single phase (not a problem for normal households) and only can track one signal … so not ideal for a solar system :-). You also can't connect it to the net or upload to google powermeter. So some less features.

      The price of this deal good when you are in the market for this device and need the features (its good … not great … as you get it cheaper in other countries.)

      As you mentioned … you do not need such a device to save energy.

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  hellrazorone on 03/05/2011 - 13:21

  I really appreciate the information (getting a solar setup happening within the next month) so I would like to monitor the savings and reduce energy use wherever possible. I guess it's a nice to have not an essential, a lot of people (myself included) are probably more attracted to the money saving element of solar power systems. Such a large initial outlay for these monitors, might offset whatever savings I could make, given that they might only last 3 years.

  I guess the main reason people might not vote for this is down to the cost. The distributor is charging 200% of the overseas RRP (after currency conversion), then reducing it by $40. (Plus with the overseas model the USB cable is included with each device sold, whereas I think only once cable comes with their bundles). So when this is applied to the deluxe solar package its $259.95 - $40 = $219.95 (for 2 x Envir and 1 x USB Cable)

  If the "special deal" made it competitive with overseas retailers (and they weren't skimming a cable of each bundle) then I'm sure they would sell more. Just wish more retailers would learn that selling a high quantity at a lower profit might be more profitable (i.e. LogitechShop).

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    mini_wombat on 03/05/2011 - 13:46

    Hehe … agree. The cost to the Uk is high … still it is OZBARGAIN … and not UKBARGAIN :-). Would love to get it cheaper here. But it makes no sense to compare to overseas prices when you can't get it delivered here. (Did you know that a yogurt in Germany costs only 20 cents … or a bottle of premium german beer is only 60 cents … so then we should also not vote the beer deal so high. Haha.)

    Most people forget that the AUD is changing value very fast … so when you do a supply deal over a year - a retailer might not get the savings from a higher AUD instantly. (esp. when you have things on stock like most small non online businesses do). But that should not be the customers problem … hehe …

    Back to the topic:
    I hope mine lasts longer than 3 years. As any electric device I hope for 10 years. Might be rally outdated by then. But current cost wrks also on tracking water and gas usage on this device. Interesting.

    Good luck with your solar system … hope you got your RECs fixed in the contract as they were going down two weeks ago by 20%. I only have my system for around 4 weeks now and the monitor made a lot of sense to maximize the solar system. But it all comes down to turning off the devices :-).

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    h4lcyon on 03/05/2011 - 19:02

    +1

    If you get an energy monitor before you solar is installed, just make sure that you also clamp the cable coming from the solar in the reverse direction to the power once the solar is installed (get the installers or sparky to do this)

    Most energy monitors don't care about the flow of current, so if you solar system is producing more power than you are using (power is flowing back into the grid), the meter will show the output of the solar minus what you are currently using.

    Or if you are using more than you solar is producing, it will show what you are using minus solar output.

    So the only time it is accurately reporting what you are using is at night.

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  skysky on 03/05/2011 - 13:50

  How sensitive is the clamp?

  Would it work in a property where I have multiple power meters in the same meter box?

  ie. would the emf from the other power meters affect the accuracy of the results?

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    mini_wombat on 03/05/2011 - 14:26

    Not an expert … but I think it should be fine. I have two clamps installed and the cables are next to each other (one consumption of the house the other one is for production of the solar system.) The readings are absolutely fine when I compare it with my meter and inverter.

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  RayEarth2133 on 03/05/2011 - 15:42

  If I import from UK - are the units in Australia and UK exactly the same? I read somewhere that EURO models are fixed to 230V and Australian model is variable voltage?

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    turbodude on 03/05/2011 - 16:27

    thats not the only concern. The other is that they transmit an RF signal from meter box to desktop unit and some countries use different frequencies (legally can't use frequencies intended for other coutries if it doesn't match). I couldn't tell you what the UK uses though.

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  bitcoinorbust on 03/05/2011 - 18:44

  -6

  35w for an alarm clock and a microwave in standby ? those readings are not even in the right ballpark of normality, same as the AC readings if its like that 24/7. this device obviously SUCKS.

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    mini_wombat on 03/05/2011 - 19:23

    Love your post.

    How do you know? Do you know what devices I have? Interesting that you can judge my energy consumption better than I can. Even without a energy meter … hehe

    I can give you a little more explanation:

    Alarmclock:
    It was a 20 year old german alarmclock wich sets the time wirelessly (even changing to daylight saving time). It connects to a time server (distributed like a radio signal in Germany) and sets the time every hour to the second exact. This time signal is not existing in Australia (wonder why Australians are always late … ? ;-) and the clock uses up all the power to try to connect … similar to a mobile phone in an area with no reception. I replaced the clock with a normal 3-5W one …

    Aircon
    These are 4 units … not only one. So 34W in average per unit. (One unit is around 20 years old and uses 50W. The others are new and use each around 27W. And this is not even much. Google the net and you will find heaps of people with high standby usage. You don't want to know what they use when they are turned on … 8000W :-) Yeah!

    Examples:
    http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1615103
    http://forums.energymatters.com.au/energy-efficiency/topic59…

    So it is not the device which "SUCKS" it is the aircon.

    Microwave
    Same here … the microwave sucks. I am even lucky with 35W … some people have nearly 80W.
    See example here: http://www.productreview.com.au/p/panasonic-nn-st676m.html
    I have also a Panasonic microwave as commented in the link. I bought it without looking at standby consumption. Not really clever. So my good deal (I got it half price) is not really a deal. Who really looks at standby consumption when buying a device? Everybody should.

    I would suggest you rethink your negative comment. It just shows me again Australia has still a lot to learn about energy saving …

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      bitcoinorbust on 03/05/2011 - 22:27

      -2

      i suggest u rethink your assumption that your meter is accurate. all you have shown is that others have made the same assumption as you. try thinking of power consumption in terms of heat. an alarm clock consuming 35w would be very hot to touch.

      based on your implausible readings i stand by my neg that this device is inaccurate and therefore SUCKS!!!

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        mini_wombat on 04/05/2011 - 00:28

        +1

        Mhhh … I fully agree with you.

        All these people (there are more examples on the net … I just linked 3) have faulty energy monitors and measure their devices wrong. (As they all use different types of energy monitors … they all suck.) They all read the power of these devices wrong. Also the energy meter of the electricity company would not show this high usage.

        And I really thought I made some huge savings on my electricity bill. I should contact my energy provider and tell them they need to adjust my bill. Looks like their meter is also faulty … ;-)

        Thanks for your help.

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        turbodude on 04/05/2011 - 09:39

        +2

        I have a CurrentCost Envi and also one of the $30 plug in energy meters from Jaycar and both tell me that my Panasonic microwave uses 80watts on standby (gets switched off at the wall when not in use now). I had just assumed that there was something wrong with the mircowave but haven't had time to investigate further as to amoutn of heat produced etc. When I get a chance I will use my Fluke true RMS multimeter to do a current measurement on teh microwave to check accuracy of the energy meters. I have tested the rest of the house both with the Envi and the plug in unit and everything else seems to use a reasonable/expected amount.

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    John Dough on 03/05/2011 - 20:12

    Well thought out reason to neg! Your judgement obviously SUCKS.

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  wfdTamar on 04/05/2011 - 08:06

  I got the Efergy one from ebay UK. Need two clamps for Power and Hot Water. Has Windows software.

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  slix_88 on 04/05/2011 - 08:20

  A couple questions:

  1. Can you use this device to measure TOTAL energy use for the house? For example, I think I have 3 separate rails for powerpoints and 3 separate for air conditioners alone. Can I have this concurrently connected to ALL rails?

  2. What's the wireless distance like? There's probably like a direct line of 25m of where I want the reader to be with tons of bricks and concrete in the way.

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    turbodude on 04/05/2011 - 09:46

    I have a had a CurrentCost Envi for a couple of years and have it permanently connected to Google power so I can log daily usage (I have a 5.7kW soalr system coming and want to estimate payback period).
    1) Yes it measures total house energy usage. It will measure instantaneous power usage (switch on light, see power reading increase) and also daily, weekly and monthly energy used. I have 3 phase power with loads shared across the phases and I had to get 2 additional clamps (plug into the one transmitted box) and the reading is an addition of all phases.
    2) I go from one corner of the house (meter box) to the diagonally opposite corner (kitchen) and it works fine. Going through maybe 7 walls diagonally.

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  turbodude on 04/05/2011 - 10:04

  +3

  I have a had a CurrentCost Envi for a couple of years and have it permanently connected to Google power for logging. I wanted to check accuracy so for a period of 1 month took readings of my main power meter (the one in the meter box owned by Western Power/Synergy) once before work and once after work and I was getting readings that were no more than 1kWh different to the Envi reading (total reading per day approx 20kWh). Since the main meter only displays in whole numbers I am satisfied that the Envi is accurate enough. I am sure that there would be a small single digit innaccuracy either way since the Envi only measures current and not voltage but as a device to change your power usage habbits I think it is fantastic. I have reduced my power usage average(averaged over a year) from 40 units/day to about 20 units with the Wife and kids at home. Biggeste killer by far was the reverse cycle aircon.
  It is great to be able to leave the house or go to bed at night and know that everthing is off because I know that my base/standby power usage is 200watts. Anything higher and I know something is left on.

  If you consider that at a cost of 22c/kWh, a saving of 20 units a day equates to $4.40/day whch equates to 4.4x365 = $1606 per year. I am now a strong believer in the saying "if you can measure it you can manage it". One of the best purchases I have ever made.

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  nhutty on 04/05/2011 - 10:39

  nice deal, i've been eyeing out the Envi-R for a while now and because of this deal i snapped up the deluxe Solar White model which comes with 2x Envi-R units and can monitor my solar as well

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  hellrazorone on 04/05/2011 - 11:17

  +3

  The silly thing with this promotion is that its cheaper to buy one Envi-R For $99.95, then in a separate order buy another one for $99.95 (with a USB cable for $14.95) than to purchase a deluxe package.

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    unicorse on 04/05/2011 - 23:10

    That's true for all the solar packages. I just placed an order for an EnviR ($99.95) and a separate order for a TREC and USB cable ($69.90), saving about $10 from the kit price.

    Note that you'll need to use a different email address for each order as I've been advised by Smartnow that it's officially one voucher per customer (I know, it's not what their promo email says, but they've honoured it and it's too late to argue… here in Melbourne it is anyway.)

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  st33p on 04/05/2011 - 11:19

  Thanks - the discount makes it closer to UK price so I'm happy :)

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  MementoMori on 04/05/2011 - 15:12

  If you guys like that, you might like this - http://smartenergygroups.com/

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    mini_wombat on 04/05/2011 - 20:02

    Great site … like the product (not so mainstream but the functionality looks advanced ;-).
    Also check out www.ata.org.au (not a similar product but a great forum for renewable energy and energy saving … ).

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  tassie Pete on 10/05/2011 - 10:58

  Thanks, I've bought one of these. Nice to get a discount, plus good service & really fast delivery from the smartnow people.