Lots of people on here have well paying jobs.
For those that are PAYG / Contractors… have you used recruitment consultants? Are they just another 'step' in the process to the end client?
Did they push you forward for as many roles as possible or play a numbers game.. or was it love at first sight between yourself and the end employer.
Do Recruitment Consultants Work?
mousie on 14/02/2019 - 12:06
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- 8Yes
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Great question … I don't know as to whether they bludge or not, with giant green accept / red reject buttons on their desk.
If they haven't worked for you - why not - if they did what went well?
If they haven't worked for you - why not
I'd guess the main reason they may not have worked for Youfah (if they haven't) would be that Youfah doesn't run a recruitment company?
/jk haha
In my experience, they have worked very well.
But if you look at the reviews, you'll likely see that there's a whole mix - some will be good and some will be bad.
Their job is to "sell" you as an employee to a company for commission. If you're a highly marketable person, they will do whatever they can to place you in a role (and hence they will seem to be helpful). If they don't think they can "sell" you off, most aren't going to bother wasting their time. Some won't even bother returning your call or answering your emails. In a way, I understand it because many work on commission based on placements and the number of applicants means they might not get a chance to respond to everyone.
By the way, I've been through these agencies many many times and I've never had to pay them out of my own pocket. The company hiring me pays a retainer at commencement and the remaining commission once I complete probation (usually around 15-20% of my annual salary).
Great insight thank you
Did they push you forward for as many roles as possible or play a numbers game
It's best to avoid those agencies that simply try to push you into every single available job. It could really ruin your chances in the short term. It's not something that many people seem to know about.
The reason is, once an agency forwards your resume to a company (or a particular division of that company, depending on their agreement), the company isnt able to hire you directly for a period of time (usually about 6 months) without paying the commission. That effectively locks you out from the company and other agencies that may want to refer you to that company. Whenever you go to another agency, they often ask whether you've signed up with other agencies and if those other agencies have put you forward for any roles. They won't tell you this, but if you have been referred by another agency for a role in a company, the new agency will not forward your resume again, regardless of how qualified you are. Because if they do and you get hired for the job, the company has to pay the commission to the original agency that "introduced" you.
So when you do go to an agency, make it clear that they are to only send your resume across to the roles/companies you want to apply for only. Best to put it in writing in email too.
correct. just to be straight, if you are good they will call you. when you have trouble contacting them, that is the sign they are not interested.
always remember they work and get money from the employers, you are just a commodity, a thing.
you can say you want x y z but they dont care they will try to shove you into a b c positions.
they like to fish info from your, like who is your boss name and email and phone, they will forget you but contact your boss ask if they can help finding staffs for him/her.
Never had any issues with recruiters
I think if you're a good enough candidate then you shouldn't have any dramas
Follow the money. Recruitment consultants get paid when their candidate is selected and also stays in the job for a defined period. It's therefore in their interests to recommend a clone of the previous successful candidate so the employing company can sign them up. This is a two dimensional view of recruiting that really limits 'the best person' for the role.
So yes, recruiters can certainly get people jobs - but as an extra layer in the process they are forced to select conservative candidates.
Interesting perspective on potential confirmation bias with recruiters. I guess it also depends on how realistic they are in terms of being able to manage the expectations of their end client.
I've worked quite closely with recruiters (due the nature of my job) and have also personally gone through a few recruiters when looking for jobs.
In my experience, i found that they are great when representing you once you apply for a job they have listed. They tend to market you quite well and obviously want to place you as fast as possible so they will keep up communication with the hiring manager.
However, in terms of if you have not been shortlisted or if you interviewed but the employer decided to go with someone else, they are not very quick on providing you feedback.That being said, also if you submit your CV in hopes they will contact you when something comes up, that never happens. Unless you are a super strong candidate with major niche skills, they will bend over backwards for you.
Depends on what kind of role you're going for. General and Specialized recruiting are two different worlds from what I have heard/experienced.
Recruiters hiring for specialized roles definitely put in the work as they are earning their wage off fewer contractors. For recruiters in general fields like customer service it is definitely a numbers game but they are the gatekeepers for the majority of jobs so you're forced to deal with them.
I currently work at a big DC for a big Australian supermarket chain and they only accept new team members through recruitment agencies.
Once you prove you’re worth it the company will “purchase” you from the agency.
This is how I got in and many others, manager and people working in offices not included.
But if you didn’t like this job the agency at the time would offer you others that are currently available with your skill set or any other low skill set labourer/warehouse job etc
Hope that helpsBe careful though, worked many call centre contracts in my time and more often that not the carrot that is a full time position doesn't really exist.
That is what is happening now they are not offering any full time positions and only on casual basis if you want to jump ships
my experience as a candidate many years ago and now a employer - little success with them with professional roles
most are ex car sales people or washed out accountants
we are a company that employs about 100 people and when we advertise for positions we have to mark "no agents" as they just flood us with CV's- candidates on their books….
lazy!
Tried Randstad a well known recruiting company talked me into how I was really suited into this job etc. Turns out to be the biggest waste of time getting you into these jobs no one wants so they can reach their KPI
Do you mean do recruitment consultants work, or do they bludge?
Or do you mean are they effective?