https://www.pccasegear.com/products/45388/xfx-radeon-vii-16g…
$1099 for XFX Radeon VII at PC Case Gear. I'm not sure when its released, but at that price its pretty much the RRP of $700 USD.
I was considering it, but I have an overclocked Vega 56, the performance gain to cost just isn't there, even if I sold the Vega 56 for $500. I'm glad I jumped on Vega 56 at release, I just wish there was better upgrade options for AMD cards.
If you've been on ebay lately you'll see that you're not going to get $500 for you vega 56.
That only increases my point that upgrading isn't worth it.
We are in violent agreement.
I AGREE!
From what i believe the Radeon 7 is a bit of a flop at its current price.
I've looked at a few benchmarks and feedback, it is set to a voltage higher than it needs to be, it can have improved cooling by applying a few washers to it increasing mounting pressure, this allows it to be overclocked to 2Ghz by many people.
What this means is that, if AiB replace the reference cooler and BIOS, it could be a real winner. If people are happy to tweak a $1000 GPU, the reference model is also a winner. It is a damn shame it has to be done to a high end GPU at all though.
I did not know any of that, however you could do as suggested or just buy RTX2080
Is absolutely a shame AMD's offerings are just so meh. Supply issues from vega, pricing issues from Nvidia…bad time to buy.
Really hope Navi does launch Q3, want to be building a PC with vega 64 ish performance without selling my soul (or buying that awful ASUS vega 64/a 2060).
I believe it was announced that it'll be released Q4. I won't get any significant performance increase from Navi I believe, sucks for me.
I think the goal of Radeon 7 is to lower the power consumption of Vega. Ideally it should be priced at 50%~60% of 2080 (or Ti), not parity, and as 7nm matures the price will come down and this may end up being the case. They may even do a 45~50 Vega unit card with sub-8GB HBM units (a single HBM unit won't work) which should mean the power and price points that make sense can be hit.
DX11+Crossfire was a flop, as DX12+mGPU and Vulkan+mGPU are finally optimized by the game engine builders (instead of AMD/nVIDIA like in DX11's case) I think we can see some real performance from Vega.
Until then it will have to be one big fat hungry card, which AMD haven't from the get go designed Vega to be.
Radeon 7 is the left over chips from their professional cards that didn't sell. They've had some features disabled and sold them as a gaming card. AMD won't be making much money on these and cannot sell for cheaper without losses. They are fantastic for high end video editing and for other professional software that can utilise the hardware.
I reckon they'll hold off till Navi in Q4, no Vega 50 or its like.
You don't think that Vega will take Polaris's position in the mid range?
Polaris at 7nm?
@drew442: HBM is so expensive, I don't think it will. I'll have to see, but I believe Navi will be scaled.
@FabMan: Samsung are working on a lower cost but lower bandwidth HBM tech. If you google it you'll find something, I reckon the radeon vii was never meant to be but there needed to be something at CES. A 7nm Vega with a few less cores and cheaper HBM at RX590 money would have killed CES.
….or do the sensible thing and wait for a 7nm flagship Navi card?
AMD is staying smug on the issue, which points to a decent uplift in the microarchitecture performance (modern rasterisation perchance?). It seems like in 2019 AMD will crush the likes of Nvidia and the RTX 2080 Ti. And we should see some normalisation for PC Gaming in 2020, with competition from the PS5 and the Xbox V.