NZBGeek birthday VIG $20 sale is back on. 24 hours only starting from 12:00am on the 20th December GMT for a 24 hour period. Otherwise you will have to wait till 2019 Black Friday for the deal again.
Ended up paying via my credit card as the purchase is handled via another payment system and not stored on NZB directly. Otherwise can pay with US $20 Amazon giftcard or bitcoin.
Which NZB site?
NZB is just the file format.
Or u talking NZB.su?
Or maybe nzbs.org
Yeah that one also!
Dot org.. didn’t wanna post the actual website
Take Hydra2 stats with a grain of salt a great performing indexer and great for obfuscated files
Indexer Total % of all enabled
NZBGeek 225 67
NZB Finder 46 14
Drunken Slug 37 11
I have just discovered my PFMonkey is having issues. Usually super reliable too. However, forgetting PF is down at the moment (it is also very hard to get invites) I would recommend Geek over PF anyway.
PFMonkey is dead mate, owner shut it down a few weeks ago.
Thanks for letting me know.
Thanks op! I missed the Black Friday deal and thought I'd be waiting until 2019 for sure.
How does this compare to similar sites? I've never paid for this sort of thing before but if they are reliable and have decent content I could be swayed.
Geek has great content but NZBGrabit is my fav.
There are a few "that shall not be named" but haven't worked out what sites those are. :)
the****sa is one that I know of
Ohhh please tell me more…..
I don't understand how they manage to keep going with these lifetime subs, but they have been surprisingly good so far.
Geek is great
For the benefit of the rest of us who have no idea what this is, and have looked at the website with only a login page and no info… what the heck is this??
Usenet indexers. That should give you enough to go on.
The first rule of usenet is the same as the first rule of Fight Club.
The first rule of Usenet is you don't talk about fight club?
Exactly. Now you've got it.
Username checks out
"No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service"
Haha, some indexers don't even have login pages.
NZBs are basically torrents that point to a direct download server instead of peer to peer.
ssshhhhhhhhhh
how are these paid indexers different from the free ones? Do they include searching and keys for the encrypted ones?
Works great for automation.
Usually you get more API calls/fetches etc. Or so I've heard.
This and also Geek is great for obfuscated releases
You can buy $20 gift card on Amazon
Instead of using a pre-selected amount (starting from $25) you can enter your own amount and put down 20
Bugger was in a rush when posting, didn't see a custom option.
I've got dog and drnknslug… not sure I need this but it's still tempting considering it's a one-off payment and it'll bolster my searches….
Same, (although I forgot about slug), but I use Geek a fair bit, mainly for sports that aren't coming up on Dog.
Can vouch for these guys, have been using them ever since the greatest indexer of all time closed down a few years ago now.
Always find they have all updated tv shows available within a couple hours of airing in the USA.
Only criticism would be lack of 4K content.
Anyone know what the price is outside of this promotion?
$8 a month
Stop spreading false information. It's USD$4 every 6 months.
Mate this is the best way to get Linux distros. GTFO here with that nonsense.
It is crazy to see the differences in reactions on this site. Just yesterday I saw some hero call someone out for mentioning switch piracy and they got about 30+ upvotes and the next day nzbgeek is on the front page with 70+ upvotes 😂 lol.
I'm not judging, I've got one of the best sonarr/Plex setups going around… Just funny how people are happy to promote this but oh don't mention pirating switch Games.
@Binchicken22: It's like the Ozbargain community is made up of different people with different opinions, with no guarantee of the same group of people in one post compared to the next. I'm sure most who pirate aren't going to pop off in a thread about anti-piracy, just (most) anti-piracy people aren't going to post in this thread.
Lifetime is normally $30 USD
Save that $20 and join a private one (created from RIP NZBMatix), run on donations. inbox me for an invite.
Hi soulblaze, any chance you could send me details? I was pretty bummed when NZBmatrix went down and havent been able to find a good replacement since.
Cant msg u - try nzbgrabit. Find it really good. I'm with Geek, NZU, dog, simply, omgwtfnzbs and always go to grabit first.
For sonar (TV Show search) i use the other as it doesnt allow api searches.
nzbgrabit is so goddamn ugly though!
Dog has by far the best UI I think.
Although, would be a non issue if using Sonarr/CouchPotato/Radarr, which is why I tolerate dr*nkenslug's UI!
@Deviner: Yeah fair play.. I just love the categories in grabit. But either all… we can get everything :)
don't inbox me anymore lol i have a bazillion already
Lol. Damn.
I use these guys and planet. Honestly I find planet better, but this is a pretty good deal.
If you are going to automate, you need the additional api calls that paying provides.
Subscribe to an indexer and newsgroup access, then setup a Raspberry Pi with nzbget and radarr, and you're sorted…. for those linux distro updates.
I use Sonar which is pretty good also.
Sonarr is for TV, Radarr is just a Sonarr fork for movies.
You actually don't need paid indexers for automation. It does make it easier though. NZBHydra can set api and download limits for free indexers. I use a lot of indexers and one of the best free ones is NZBFinder
Can someone explain what this is? Can I watch stuff on it? Is it like the dark web?
I don't really understand any of the lingo above.
Just found this article, explaine everything pretty much.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.howtogeek.com/71315/the-how…
Lifetime memberships are junk. Ive been burned by before with Cerberus on android and dognzb
I was just thinking that, 2 or 3 years is $14 and I doubt they'll last that long!
Indeed. As soon as indexers start handing out cheap memberships is almost guaranteed that they're ready to do a runner
Other than price and possibly speed, how does this compare to using a VPN like NordVPN? (inb4 lol vpn pleb #usenetmasterrace)
Like comparing unicorns to toe nail clippings. A simple Google query will give you a basic idea of how usenet works, and where the indexer fits into it.
Usenet is basically a combination between torrents and emails.
It works similar to torrents in that you need an index site.
On the index site you download smaller "index" files - torrents vs nzb files are similar.
Your downloader app then takes that file and then uses it to know where to download your large file.
The difference is torrents are downloaded from every user using that torrent (peer to peer). Usenet is downloaded from a single server (similar to downloading emails with attachments).
With usenet you don't "share" it back out between people and you don't have to wait for people to be online to get the last chunk of it - generally the server will have a copy of every single "email attachment" going back a number of years.
That's a decent description but super important to understand, for the non-informed, that the only major similarity is with the downloading of a single, small file that pipes into your download app.
Torrents are a pretty dodgy and dirty method of downloading as, with any peer to peer solution, anyone can contaminate a torrent file and spoof thousands of seeders and have everyone downloading viruses as that torrent will be top of a search engine etc.
That's extremely common with free sites.
Whereas NZB's are generally vetted to some degree and can be nuked quickly if/when either a dodgy NZB is uploaded or if it doesn't meet certain standards (a movie labelled 4K that's actually just 720P etc).
Also, you're not reliant on seeders to download - so if you're looking for a super old episode of MASH or something, you are only contending with the NZB's retention as opposed to it's popularity (seeders).
Thanks for the comments chaps! Yeah I see the benefits and differences. Key benefits: max connection dl speed as from server, easier to download older content that might not be as shared anymore, never seeding/sharing only downloading, easier automation if you're into that.
For someone that is on a great internet connection, downloading popular torrents, has an existing VPN, and doesn't care for automation, the difference isn't as enticing to switch. Probably something to consider for the future before renewing VPN subsription.
That's a pretty good summation.
One last point to note as well, is most servers will send download content over port 443 (which is the https web port), and it sends out encrypted.
So to ISPs it will generally just look like you're downloading lots of large files from a website.
Unless they use some sort of advanced traffic analysis the ISP servers / shapers and filters think it's just normal web traffic.
download content over port 443 (which is the https web port), and it sends out encrypted.
not quite
using port 443 doesn't mean it's encrypted. it's just the traditional port used fo encrypted http (https). You need to make sure your setup is actually using SSL. That can use any port, 443 is the traditional resereved port for that purpose.
Unless they use some sort of advanced traffic analysis the ISP servers / shapers and filters think it's just normal web traffic.
Not quite right either, They will see (large amounts of) encrypted traffic and that's it. they can't really break it open and see the contents (unless you're using old encrytion methods). What they can do is see which server you're grabbing content from (unless you're using a VPN) and then throttle it.
not quite
using port 443 doesn't mean it's encrypted. it's just the traditional port used fo encrypted http (https). You need to make sure your setup is actually using SSL. That can use any port, 443 is the traditional resereved port for that purpose
I was attempting to simplify my point.
Usenet uses the standard ports of 119 for non-encrypted NNTP traffic and 563 for NNTP over SSL/TLS (encrypted). Usenet server providers, as well as having those standard ports, present their server on multiple additional non-standard ports as well.
They also often serve their encrypted traffic over 443 which is non-standard (as well as 563).
For firewalls that only allow web traffic through 80/443 - usenet will work using this port.
However my point is usenet servers will often present encrypted traffic over port 443 and use tls encryption (usually tls1.2). Their reasoning is to attempt to mask the real purpose behind the traffic, so it would not make sense for them to serve unencrypted data over 443.
Not quite right either, They will see (large amounts of) encrypted traffic and that's it. they can't really break it open and see the contents (unless you're using old encrytion methods). What they can do is see which server you're grabbing content from (unless you're using a VPN) and then throttle it.
That was my point, unless they want to go into DPI and advanced techniques, it will appear to most ISPs as encrypted "web" traffic because it is TLS traffic over a TLS port.
@lysp: The port doesn't make it encrypted. You can use port 119 and encrypt. You can use port 443 and it's not encrypted. You've over simplified. Port numbers are irrelevant. You need to force/tick SSL to actually encrypt.
DPI still won't be able to inspect the traffic. Unless they do a Man In The Middle and send you a fake cert, then decrypt & inspect. Eaay im a corporate network, but fairly hard for an ISP.
@[Deactivated]: I'm not sure where I said that the port number is what makes it encrypted. What makes it encrypted is most usenet hosts choosing to use 443 as an encrypted service port.
This is a standard used by most usenet hosts.
https://support.usenetserver.com/customer/en/portal/articles…
Unencrypted 20, 23, 25, 119, 3128, 7000, 8000 and 9000
SSL 563, 443 or 8080
https://help.easynews.com/customer/portal/articles/2190531
Non-SSL ports 21, 23, 25, 53, 80, 110, 119, 8000 and 8080 available
SSL ports 21, 23, 25, 53, 80, 110, 443, 563, 8000, and 8080 available
https://support.newshosting.com/customer/portal/articles/221…
Port: 119
Additional NNTP Ports: 23, 25, 80, 3128
SSL Ports: 563, 443
https://www.ngprovider.com/usenet-alternate-server-addresses…
Port: 119
Additional NNTP Ports: 23, 25, 80, 3128
SSL Ports: 563, 443
So while it isn't RFC standard, it is usenet standard (convention).
@lysp: You said
download content over port 443 (which is the https web port), and it sends out encrypted.
The port doesn't send it out encrypted. You need to tick the SSL encryption ootion when choosing the port. Just using port 443 doesn't mean it sends it out encrypted. You need to force encryption. Otherwise it probab5 isn't.
@[Deactivated]: "it" is the server/service, not the port.
If you look above, the non-ssl ports are never 443.
If you don't enable encryption in the client, the connection will fail.
@lysp: Rubbish i used 4 different newsgroup providers. I can use 443 with/without ssl. Try it, I bet you it eorks. Also i can use ssl on various other ports, including port 89, it doe6 mean that its not encrypted
Again , and I'll type it s l o w l y.
Using port 443 does not mean your connection is encrypted. Its just a port. If i drive my csr in the bus lane, it doesn't make my car a bus. If I wear a police uniform, it doesn't make me a police man. If I wear red, it doesn't mean I'm a communist ot a swannies supporter. If I use port 443, it doesn't mean my connection is encrypted. If I use port 25, it doesn't mean I'm sending an email via smtp. If I used port 21, it doesn't mean I'm using fto. If I used port 22, it doesn't mean I'm using SSH. If I used port 23, it doesn't mean Im5 using Telnet.if i used port 70, it doesn't mean I'm using Gopher. If I use port 79, it doesn't mean I'm fingering you. If I use port 80, it doesn't mean I'm using unencrypted http/web traffic.
Port numbers are suggested/traditional protocol usage. Using the ports doesn5 mean you actually are usimg that protocol.
Telling people that using 443 means their traffic is encrypted is wrong. Or as I originally said "not quite" you might mislead people into thinking that they're using a secure protocol when they're not.
Using port 443 does not mean your connection is encrypted.
I 100% agree with you. And I 100% didn't say that it's encrypted purely because it's port 443.
you might mislead people into thinking that they're using a secure protocol when they're not.
If people follow the instructions for settings it up incorrectly they could be insecure. This could be due to the wrong hostname, wrong port or wrong settings on the client.
If you follow the setup instructions correctly, there is nothing to be mislead by. Setup instructions come with the hostname and port in the same email / wiki / website, so usually you'd follow those rather than a post on a forum. You wouldn't get the hostname from your signup email, and then use a port from a non-related forum post.
Try it, I bet you it eorks.
@lysp: You said
download content over port 443 (which is the https web port), and it sends out encrypted.
and you just said
And I 100% didn't say that it's encrypted purely because it's port 443.
Hmmm reminds me of Pauline…
When I had 100 mbps cable with Telstra I could download any nzb file from news at 100 mbps.
Basically, if you have a decent newsgroup provider, you can download as fast as your ISP will let you.
Yeah i found AussieBB is pretty quick for US & EU servers (max'ing out the 50/20 link). The other week I grabbed & unpacked and moved a h265 100mb (~20mins) vid in 23s i was thinking of upgrading from 50->100 but IMHO it's not much use.
Been with Geek for over 5 years now and great site, especially for series indexing.
Between them, Dog and Slug I get pretty much everything I'm after.
Same combo as me and was tempted to pick this up to compliment the other two in case Sonarr/CP/Radarr can't find something.
Do you reckon it'd add any value to the mix or would you just stick with Dog/Slug if you were me?
On a personal level I think it's definitely worth it mate as I find more often than not any Dog hosted NZB's that have been nuked can be found on Geek due to the reposting (Obfuscated) method they use to bypass the DCMA hits.
I've actually dropped dog. Slug and geek have been enough for all my needs.
I also plug in a bunch of free ones into nzbhydra just in case but those have a low hit % compared to slug/geek.
Silly question how do you get a rss feed of your cart? The RSS link/icon isn't showing on the View Cart page (the faq shows one).
This is actually the best NZB indexing site out there! It has 99% of the things you would want!
Any good indexers for books?, I miss "usenet-crawler", fallen back to Planet?
yea its called #bookz
Thanks will break out the old hexchat
Is there any way to trial their index? I don't want to pay if they don't end up having things I'm looking for.
Is their stuff repacked?
There is plenty of free ones out there. Trials too. Paid gives you more API requests and downloads. https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/wiki/indexers
The first rule of us*net…
Any Android apps that pair with these I can use on my smart TV?
Most NZB apps I've seen tend to be mainly for viewing/adding downloads to a client on your PC/Server that's doing the downloading and giving you the ability to load NZB's off your phone that trigger a download on your PC's client and monitoring their progress etc.
sonarr/radarr on an always-on server (eg. raspberry pi) which automates the download of content and can also run a plex server on it to manage the content and deliver it to your smart tv via it's plex smart tv/android tv app.
do australian tv shows come up on any index?
Alot do, but it depends if the release group has any members over here to capture them.
The best site to get older/obscure tv shows is actually a torrent site 'BTN' which apparently is hard as hell to get on. Most of their stuff is submitted by individual users so they have alot of content the main release groups don't bother with.
Alot of the BTN stuff ends up on the indexer sites though.
it gets timed out on sab no idea, have tried combinations of ports
This is an indexer not a provider.
Ah..thanks have 500gig on uE
I thought usenet was going out of fashion when they started getting sued for copyright about 5 years ago.
I'm pretty knowledgeable about a lot of tech/pc/geek stuff but god damn most of these comments are gibberish to me and I feel like this is a rabbit hole I'm gonna go way too far down in
It just a better alternative than torrents
You need:
1) an indexer so you can find content. NZBGeek is an indexer for nzb files. Piratebay is an index site for torrents
2) a download program nzbget or sabnzb (utorrent, deluge)
3) a provider. Unlike torrents, usenet is not peer to peer and you download from servers. You have to pay to provider to access content.
There is plenty of information out their and tutorials
Best to have both. My searches fallback to NZB for older or less popular content (low seeders).
Once you have sorted your indexer, you can buy blocks with providers when they are on-sale, generally no expiry date. Most people don't need a monthly subscription. "Astraweb\Newsgroup direct" are examples of block providers. When on-sale should be able to get 1TB blocks with no expiry for ~$40
You should have min of 2 providers (un-related), to maximise your success.
How does this compare to NZBs ?