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[WA] Cat Haven - Free Adoption of Adult Cats (This Weekend)
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Have camped near Koalas. Would not recommend as pets.
Not sure why you're getting negged.
If you have a cat and don't keep it exclusively indoors or contained in an outdoor run, there's close to a 100% chance that your precious little schnookums is amusing itself by contributing to the ongoing destruction of Australia's biodiversity.
Hunting small animals is part of their biological programming and the reason why they are not a good pet to keep in this country.
I'm not. If you don't understand how replying to a thread works, I am not surprised you don't understand why that comment is getting negged either.
@[Deactivated]: Sorry, I just tapped the reply button under the wrong post.
Please feel free to report what I wrote to a mod and request that it be placed under the correct post if it's going to keep you up at night.
@Pantagonist: The only thing more boring than outrage culture is the constant outrage at outrage culture. Nobody cares.
@[Deactivated]: Yep, let's all apsire not to care about anything, including adopting cats, then see where that gets us. Sound good?
Spoken like true ignorant. There's a 100% chance your the most destructive species ever known, I think you should be kept indoors.
@raybies: Assuming you're the same species as me (in spite of any chromosomal abnormalities you may possess), does that mean you should be kept indoors as well?
Instead of calling me an ignoramus, perhaps you could try to refute my point by posting some scientific evidence that shows cats aren't having a detrimental effect on native wildlife?
I'll be waiting right here.
@Pantagonist: They're carnivores of course they need to eat. It's also in their genes to explore their environment until they find the scent of another animal. They're here now, they have feelings just like humans, dogs and most animals… you can't make them forget they're a feline, but there are domesticated cats who are completely useless at hunting bcos they're too physically useless or bcos they lost the will to exert themselves, just like they are people who don't go around enslaving and murdering everything that isn't in a cage. Read a little, there are 100's of books on feline behavior they have a complex and diverse culture. Don't let those violet human tendencies cloud your limited cognition.
@raybies: So the best you have to offer is fluffy anecdotes apparently based on 100s of books whose names you refuse to cite?
Here's an article from the RSPCA about this very issue. It contains citations from scientific journals like "Applied Animal Behaviour Science".
I'm pretty sure the RSPCA like animals (as their name would suggest). Their comments about cats killing wildlife aren't likely to come from murderous human desires; rather an acceptance of the sobering facts.
It's cool that you have a cat as your avatar and seem to think they're a superior species to humans, so I'm assuming there's some congnitive bias at play here.
@Pantagonist: The whole article is predicated on cats being introduced in to an area w/ endangered species (humans already killed pretty much everything in urban areas) and used 4 of those 100's of books as references; here 70,000 more for you https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_n_20?fst=as%3Aoff&rh=n%3A…
This is not a scientific debate, it's a philosophical one.
Again nobody is disputing they are hunters, the problem is stupid people who think they can change their behavior, and dictate what should have the right to life and not, bcos they say so. If you want to change something start w/ yourself the most dangerous species known, or are you resigning yourself to being a narcissist (in ability to feel empathy but for themselves) hypocrite (u are a more destructive species).
I agree more native species should be kept as pets.
https://www.popsci.com.au/science/sorry-cat-haters-science-i…Again nobody is disputing they are hunters, the problem is stupid people who think they can change their behavior, and dictate what should have the right to life and not, bcos they say so.
I think you'll find that you're the only one talking about right to life and killing cats. I've only mentioned keeping them indoors or contained. The RSPCA article says the same thing. Creating a straw man doesn't help your argument.
humans already killed pretty much everything in urban areas
Certainly not the case in the urban area where I live.
I agree more native species should be kept as pets.
I never said that? Native animals are better off wild.
This is not a scientific debate, it's a philosophical one.
No, you're just trying to turn it into one to suit your agenda. Again, all I'm saying is that if you have a cat, keep the damn thing contained (which is also what the RSPCA is saying).
Just wondering if you think we should also be protecting cane toads, feral pigs etc?
@Pantagonist: Yea and I said spoken like a true ignorant; I have tried to keep our cat in, and he got feline urinary stress and lost 6 teeth until we let him out and everything cleared up.
@raybies: That's presumably because he was used to being let out and wasn't trained to be indoors / confined from a young age.
A cat that has experienced living outdoors beyond the owner’s property boundary may become distressed if suddenly kept totally indoors. In these cases cats may begin to display behavioural problems due to the stress of confinement and their health and welfare may be compromised. For these cats extending their access to the outdoors via an escape-proof enclosure or specialised backyard fencing is highly recommended. Enclosures and fencing should not be electrified. A gradual reduction in the amount of time that the cat spends beyond the property will also allow them to adjust to containment to the owner's property over time.
https://kb.rspca.org.au/Is-it-okay-to-keep-my-cat-at-home-al…
I'm not really sure why you keep calling me ignorant when there's a wealth of information out there about these topics yet you seem to be the one who's chosen not to look any of it up?
@Pantagonist: I call u ignorant bcos u have nfi idea, and quote the obvious without taking in to consideration the personality of the animal.
All humans should be locked up bcos they will torture native species to death with knuckledusters… that's the kind of idiocy u spew.Again you exhibit a very high level of ignorance or you're a sociopath/narcissist devoid of empathy; my cat was born in to captivity and from a young age has struggled for a bit of freedom, he's not stupid and knows there's an outside w/ a compulsion to check it out. Since gaining some freedom he likes to greet my wife when she gets of the bus, sleep in a bush outside and roll around on the grass, and I've never seen him hurt or hunt anything.
As much as I would like him to always be indoors, what kind of askhole would I be for depriving his liberty specially when he gets so stressed about it?
@raybies: I'm trying to have a rational debate with you about the broad impacts of cat ownership in Australia yet you now seem to be fixated on talking about your own cat's psychological issues.
You've also been calling me ignorant as I'm not considering your own cat's issues despite the fact that you only divulged that information in your previous post and not prior to calling me ignorant the first time.
Not really sure where I can go from here, other than to ask whether you followed the RSPCA's suggestions for getting your cat used to being confined?
We have laws that deter humans from beating up native wildlife through potential prosecution. The same laws do not apply to cats. Saying that all humans should be locked up as they will potentially harm wildlife is false equivalence. You don't see domestic dogs, birds, fish, rabbits, hamsters etc. roaming the neighbourhoods without human supervision. Why are there standards different for cats?
If you want to change something start w/ yourself the most dangerous species known
I agree with sentiment.
We do stupid things like bring cats to Australia and allow them to roam freely as if they were still living in their native lands without thinking about the ecological implications. If it weren't for human interference they'd still be roaming wild around north Africa and the Arabian peninsula. Now that we know what we know, it would be great if we could make some small adjustments to our relationship with them such as keeping them indoors or contained.
I've already made that psychological and behavioural leap. Are you prepared to do the same?
@Pantagonist: http://www.australasianscience.com.au/news/january-2012/dome…
Whilst the overwhelming number of wildlife injuries and deaths were attributed to motor vehicles (1,256), the next highest cause of injuries and death was recorded for dogs (238), with cats at 152.Where's your outrage puto???
Where's your outrage puto???
Tiny sample size from a study that's 7-8 years old. Have a look at more recent studies like the one from the ABC article in the post that I originally responded to. In recent times there have been more concerted efforts to quantify the problem more accurately.
Also, I guess you didn't read this part of the article you posted:
“This should not be seen as a ‘get out of jail card’ for cats though”, said Mr Holderness-Roddam. “They still account for a considerable amount of wildlife mortality, and they spread a nasty disease called toxoplasmosis which kills bandicoots.”
Your turn.
Any free shipping?
Yea they use Fastway :P
In a satchel?
Great promo,but there is no such thing as a free cat.
Finally I can get myself some puss1e
Great place. Bought (i.e. paid for) lovely cat from them many years back. Staff at that time were very helpful and couldn’t do enough to please.
couldn’t do enough to please
Better get it checked out
Fantastic place to go for a cat. They ask a lot of questions and try their best to screen people wanting to adopt. They also provide a lot of good advice for first time pet owners.
They will push hard for you to buy something as a payment for your cat (e.g. bag of science diet food), and you probably should because they may not be breaking even on the adult cats. If purchasing a bag of cat food is going to break your budget, then you might not be in the financial position to own this kind of pet.
I agree on principle though be warned: my cat got hooked on science diet and has refused to eat any other dry food for 12 years. I buy on sale and it's fairly comparable to other brands but when it's not on sale ….
its a damn cat. whiskas is all it needs.
Don't adopt a cat please
My two little girls are wonderful companions and our house is setup so they can't stray onto the street. The only thing they catch is insects. However, they aren't cheap to maintain and they need cat sitters when we go away so "spontenaity" can be an issue.
A little worrying time of year to do this as so many people get pets for Christmas presents and then dump them the second they're inconvenient in January.
Free would just encourage it imo.
Think of it like long term renters in Byron competing with AirBnB.
They kick out all the unprofitable cats before the Christmas period then rent out the spaces at elevated rates during the holiday period to moggies with rich owners and plenty of disposable income. Then when everyone's back at work they let the unprofitable cats back in for another 10 months and the cycle continues.
Hopefully less chance of that seeing as they're adult cats and not kittens to be abandoned "when they're no longer small and cute".
Interesting that places like this rally against pets for Christmas, yet a week out they run a free adoption promotion.
It's also a time of year when lots of people are on holidays, so it is a great time to introduce a new pet to the family and spend some time getting it settled in.
I think that makes it a great time to run something like this.
Go to this everyone… get a cat… there are SOOOO many that need homes right now
It's this weekend only. Not a long running promotion.
I think because of the heat and the weather to come they are trying to free up spaceMy wife did some shifts at cat haven a short while ago. The place is basically run from donations and that small shop and most of the folk who 'work' there are volunteers. I know this first hand. Wifey wasn't paid, no discounts, no free stuff.
they often run 'deals' like this because :
a) they just cant afford to keep that many cats on the shoestring budget they have, coz they pay for all the vet checks and stuff when the cat comes in
b) when kitten season hits, which is about now/spring, there is a massive influx of new cats, so any incentive to prospective owners helps.they really do screen folk to make sure cats are homed to their 'Furrever' homes, so thats what makes their job so difficult. These folk are cat lovers, doing this to keep the animals safe and happy. Shjrt43 bo
that last bit of text is thanks to our cathaven cat jumping on my laptop keyboard btw. Timing! If u want a cat and are prepared for the responsibility (feeding, caring about them), as well as the keyboard jumping, do the world a favour and adopt.
peace
ps of course once you bring the cat home, you are now its slave… cat haven doesnt tell you that part lol
Get an adult cat. While kittens are cute and stuff, the adult ones are already settled and easier to manage. I recently adopted one, although it was more the other way round. She was a stray, couldnt find anyone interested in taking in another pet, and I didnt trust any of the shelters or rspca to not put her down after a few weeks. So I've kept her. Yesterday she finally felt comfortable enough to use me as a bed while I watched tv. If things didnt pan out for her she wouldnt have been put down months ago had I not kept her.
This. A few month ago we adopted 2 four year olds and they're mostly a pleasure (double trouble though)
I'd be stearing of the dimmies in WA this weekend.
great place to meet single middle aged women?
Adopt a cute cat now for Xmax only to see them on the street after the New Year. What a waste of resources.
People who do that shouldn’t own a cat, but most owners are responsible adults.
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