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Western Digital RED 8TB Internal NAS Hard Drive $318.40 Delivered @ Futu eBay Store
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katatoniq on 14/12/2018 - 10:19 ebay.com.au (311 clicks)
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It just gets REALLY expensive when you need 5.
Which is you're a data hoarder like myself, you do, as a ZFS RaidZ2 is the only option.
nods sagely
Yea, that upfront cost is always the killer - I'm sitting on 38TB, which is almost full, and I'll need to break into 8TB drives real soon.
I'm definitely a data hoarder, but ZFS isn't the only option for storing mass amounts.
Well, no, BTRFS exists also, but all the other solutions (like unraid) don't do bitrot protection, and I really don't want to worry about PAR-ing my files.
ZFS is set and forget, free, and idiot proof.
Not to mention, for less than 5 users (without dedup), the overhead un hardware is…. nothing.
@MasterScythe: Is bitrot a real thing? Well, I mean, I know its real, but does it happen often, and can it be widespread (i.e. impacting a large percentage of data on a drive)?
@MasterScythe: Most will not protect you from Bitrot they will only let you know that it happened and you can restore the file from your backup. Unraid offers the same with Dynamix File Integrity
Wouldn't you be better off jumping pot higher capacity drives then? - say 12TB.
I want six but I can't justify the expenditure. Argh.
You won't regret getting six if you can give up sex, drugs and rock 'n'roll fir abiut a month :)
For me, try 5 x WD Red 10 ;)
Four for the WD 4100 PRO NAS set up in a RAID 10 config, plus one for the storage shelf as a redundancy if/or when one of the original four drives fail. I never regretted the outlay.That said, these drives are robust, slower spinning @ 5,400rpm but operate cool 24x7. They are 'fit for purpose NAS drives. They are slightly noisy, but never laboured. In ten years, I have never had a WD HDD failure, but plenty of Seagate HDDS that saw their maker within 1-2 years of operation (& under warranty).
@et tu brute: I had a 4 seagates die on me, pretty much one after each other, it wasnt pretty. I have 4TB Reds now, but still have the replace seagates as Parity drives so they still keep things warm in there unforunately
Thanks, I didn't know about ZFS until coming across this comment.
So did you build your own NAS running ZFS? Is it much cheaper than buying a RAID NAS like this one?
Also, is it true, you can't add capacity drive by drive with ZFS?
I like the idea of starting with a few drives and then add more and more as required.
Cheers,
Loz
Yeah, 6TB is my sweet spot but I just couldn't justify paying more per TB
@OP
Probably worth mentioning in the title/description that this is a NAS Hard Drive, not external or internal PC/Laptop HDD.Cheers for the suggestion - done.
why not for PC internal use?
I'm happy with the two 6TB Red's in my desktop (reaches around and touches wood).
.Reds are only 5400rpm, there will be improvements in having a 7200rpm drive.
I just got myself one of these for an internal drive. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Toshiba-8TB-7-2K-6G-3-5-512E-Ent…
$280 for an 8TB Enterprise drive, that'll do.
@ AdosHouse
"Reds are only 5400rpm, there will be improvements in having a 7200rpm drive."Depends on what purpose you intend to deploy them for. If using WD RED as a NAS drive, running them at 5,400 rpm is fit for purpose if your NAS is operating 24/7. A faster 7,200 rpm operating in that environment & under those conditions, desn't need the fast speed for red/write and will only fail FASTER if operating 24/7 Yes, there are WD RED Pro drives that spin at 7,200 rpm, but these are expensive and very few scenarios exist that would see the need to deploy these over the standard WD RED.
Good luck if you go down that line. Make sure you have a spare drive on hand just in case of failure.
@et tu brute: I was just saying for everyday use for an internal PC drive a 7200rpm drive would (generally) be better.
I now have the Toshiba Enterprise drive as a general game and data drive for my PC, and the enterprise drive has a better MTBF than a WD Red. But I will also be backing all that up to my NAS which has a 8TB WD Gold in it.
@AdosHouse: says who..
For most purposes
most people won't noticed difference between 5200 and 7200 rpmI got a mix of green and red hdd in my internal pc myself and I don't take notice of which drives is 7200 or 5200 from my daily usage.
only thing I do notice is the 7200 is slight hotter..
compare to Seagate IronWolf 8TB, which one is better??
7200rpm and 256m cache, $308
Because these drives are specifically designed for purpose, i.e. as NAS drives and also for 24/7 surveilance systems (although WD Purple drivews are built for that purpose). Theses drives run at a slower 5,400rpm because of 24/7 environments they are usually expencted to operate in.
For a pc, you are better off with hdd's specifically designed for that device. I use the higher performing, faste @ 7,200 rpm WD Black drives which are actually cheaper than WD Reds. For even cheaper drives you can use the WD Green (econo drives) or WD Blue (basic cheap WD drive).
Wow, people are really harsh with their neg votes
I notice that too. I wonder why people are receiving negative votes for their positive, helpful & accurate comments. Go figure?
P.S. I gave you a +, now we sit back and watch to see who gives you a neg ;)
Good to see 8TB creeping up on best-bang-for-buck 4TB drives, based on the cost per GB.
6TB drives are still more expensive per GB at this point and the good old 3TB drives just don't make the cut any more.