Hi OzBargain,
Please recommend me a dishwasher.
Looking for a medium sized one to put under an average sized kitchen bench. We will wash pots and pans alongside bowls and plates.
One that is easy to regularly clean would be a plus.
Hoping to utilise the Harvey Norman Amex deal. Lastly, a drying function would be very nice.
Thanks!
Edit: how did you get it installed?
Split Amex payments ;)
You cheeky monkey
Just bought an LG and had it installed last week. Was recommended by Choice magazine. I've found it easy to use and very good at removing baked on stains. JB Hifi sell them pretty cheap. Energy efficient and low water consumption to boot
A good wife/husband, can pick them up at HN if you're good?
People at HN probably aren't OzBargainers :(
Wash by hand
Not worth the time and effort when tired after work
Don't be lazy
Time is money
@onetwothreefour: Washing, rinsing and drying take over 10mins. Would rather a machine do the nightly 20mins of work after a day of corporate slaving.
Also uses a lot more water
I have a Bosch semi integrated one. works like a charm :)
Asko D5424SS. I have used LG, Fisher P and Miele, but the ASKO has the best height for large plates and bowls.
LG QuadWash White Dishwasher
XD5B14WH
We are on our second Miele - the first lasted 20 years but it was beginning to squeak so we replaced it. (We have one big living place so the dishwasher noise is noticable.)
I would be careful putting pots and pans into the dishwasher. The chemicals, and heat, can affect the finish of some pots and pans. I would check, online, for info on your particular cookware before putting them in. I always handwash my pots and pans and my good glassware.
Asko all the way - Only Dishwasher worth having.
Any particular Asko model you like?
+1 Get an Asko.
You'll find most dishwashers are of a standard size (usually 60cm wide, 82cm high), so just check the recess before you go shopping. If the house used to have a dishwasher in it, installation is easy - it's not much different than hooking up a washing machine (connect water hoses to the outlets under the sink, and get the drain pipe connected to the waste outlet on the s-trap). If you haven't had a dishwasher in there, then best get a plumber (try Airtasker or something).
I bought a stainless steel Beko model earlier this year from Able Home and Office for <$300. White versions were much cheaper.
Beko looks price friendly! I wonder how it compares against Bosch/Miele/Asko which are over 2x as expensive. Is Beko like the Xiaomi of dishwashers?
how did you get it installed?
DIY. Are you replacing an old one? Pretty easy if replacing an old one as the hole for the dishwasher and water/power is easily accessible. Not as easy to DIY if you're putting in a new one though!
This would be our first!
Get a plumber to do it. See if you can get free installation in the price.
Or watch a YouTube video and DIY if you have enough faith in yourself :D
A nice one from SEA would be my pick.
Just don't get a model produced in Thailand. They can cause a lot of problems and you will always be sending money over to Thailand to keep it working happily.
Same apply to other models too. Maybe the eastern Europe ones don't but don't do your chore too lol
Miele, otherwise Bosch
I didn’t like the made in Germany Bosch models. Didn’t feel as well built as older models and for a few 100 more could get a Miele.
Also is also good but I prefer the design of Miele better.
My Girlfriend is pretty good at washing the dish's you can borrow her if you want
Please recommend me a dishwasher.
I think you should get a dishwasher
I bought a dishwasher that has a 3rd drawer for cutlery - dont get one of these it makes the other shelves a lot shorter.
Once you have one you probably wont put pots and pans in as they take up too much space.
Thanks for that insight! Sounds like the 2 shelf configuration is best
I have an LG with cutlery shelf. It fits more into it than my previous whirlpool. That whirlpool didn't fit maxwell&williams standard plates very well - the spinning thing would hit the plates so they had to be positioned outside the spin zone.
The cutlery drawer is great but only in an 86cm (internal) high dishwasher. Most dishwashers are 82cm high, and if you have one of those with a cutlery drawer you'll probably end up removing the drawer and using a cutlery basket.
FWIW Asko call them "XXL'.
@Fobsessive my Miele has a 3rd shelf and all the shelves are height adjustable so it's not that big of a deal.
I've had no issues fitting things in it which fit in my Asko with 2 shelves.
the middle shelf is adjustable to one of 2 positions on mine, in the higher position it is pretty unusable. with the benefit of hindsight I would take a plate in with me and see how it fits and if it hits the spinner.
Great idea, bringing in some of your own plates to test
Yeah - bought a 3 shelf dishwasher and within a day the top cutlery shelf had been removed.
Got out the old container from my previous dishwasher to put the cutlery in. Works much better.
it can be removed??? I gotta check this out. It will be going if I can - where do you buy a basket from?
Something like this? Just make sure it fits your dishwasher - I have a half of these currently in there and it works a treat. To be honest, it came with my last dishwasher so I've never had to buy it.
Yeah I could just slide it out and then move the other draw upward - not sure if this is standard or a select few but give it a try!
The Bosch 6 series had 3 tray but you can always take any of them out if needed. Can even change height of the middle tray to get more clearance on the bottom one
Bosch Series 8. I use it and I see it in many nice homes.
Quiet AF.
Series 8 looks like a great piece of tech. Any idea what the difference is between the Series 8 models ActiveWater and Built-Under?
https://www.harveynorman.com.au/bosch-serie-8-activewater-60…
https://www.harveynorman.com.au/bosch-60cm-series-8-built-un…
Rule 1 of being an Ozbargainer: Don't link HN
True, but I'll try price matching somewhere else!
I think it's all to do with facade design.
Personal recommendation: Siemens have 5 year warranties vs. the usual 2 years. We got one and are very happy with it.
A number of Bosch models were recommended by Choice. (They were series 4 and 6 models).
A dishwasher repairman (hint: don't get Westinghouse) recommended either Dishlex if we didn't want to spend much/were moving soon as he was finding they were lasting as long as other typical brands or Siemens if we were staying put and wanted something that lasted longer as he was mainly getting call outs on 7+ year Siemens models, so he seemed to think they lived up to their longer warranty.
Re brand - I guess we've been lucky. Our Westinghouse is going strong after three years. The Miele it replaced had been visited by the Miele repair people at least three times in the same period.
I've heard mixed reviews like that about Miele too.
That's good yours is behaving. Our Westinghouse was great to start with - it was a Choice recommended model and had good reviews on Product Review. But after 3 years it started playing up with different errors, and around then I also noticed bad reviews popping up on Product Review at the same time with similar issues. Motherboard and heater ended up going along with a slow, undetectable leak developing at the 4 year mark. The recent Choice reliability results for Westinghouse have also dropped off around the same time, which is disappointing as I actually really liked the Westinghouse dishwasher designs. I hope they've lifted their game again because I would consider it down the track if I start hearing more stories like yours again.
I got a DeLonghi a couple of years ago, It has been really good so far. Gets clogged a lot less than the westinghouse it replaced.
Its the first one with the cutlery drawer right at the top, which I was a bit hesitant for, it takes a little more time to pack, and does sacrifice a little stackable height elsewhere, but allows much more 'usable' space in the bottom for larger items. It is as easy or easier to unpack compared with how we used to do cutlery all random in the basket
Another thing to keep in mind is the size of your main items, I tend to favour certain dishes now because I generally cook/serve and pack the dishwasher and I know what fits best. The top shelves are usually (always?) adjustable, I prefer it lower, so the top area is larger for medium sized things, but that makes the bottom a little small for our former 'main' dinner plates, so they almost never get used anymore, along with large round pasta bowls, that never seem to stack well.
Granted these things probably shouldn't really weigh in equally in terms of washing quality /lifespan etc. But those things are really hard to tell objectively from the showroom floor.
So we generally go with something that 'feels' good, and isn't twice the price of all the others.
Bosch is very popular these days - especially the made in Germany models if that is within your budget. The Harvey Norman deal is only $50 cashback right? For an appliance which will probably cost somewhere from $700 to $1200 you may be better buying elsewhere with a deal which Harvey Norman won't price match - make sure you do your research!