Compliance Plates - Does It Matter?

bargrin on 15/11/2018 - 01:07

Hey

Was looking at getting a brand new car as bit of a sale on coming to end of year.

However, as we so close to end of calander year I asked sales person what the go is about getting a new one with compliance plate of 2019 delivery in Jan.

Yet got, what i think is sales talk, that a 2019 compliance plate adds no value to car unless you get a July 2019 due to finical year, is that right cause sounds strange?

My view is, if you have choice of a car as a Dec 2018 or Jan 2019, better to get the 2019 plated even if built in 2018. Its worth a whole year extra.

Automotive

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  • pegaxs on 15/11/2018 - 01:39
    +1

    Mentally, yes. If you plan on selling it in 2~5 years, go with compliance plate as late as you can get it. It’s not that it really matters, but there are a lot of people who will come into this thread soon and spray off about it. They are the people you will be looking to sell it to.

    Cars have two dates, build dates and compliance dates. Some are close together, some are not. Slow moving models can be 2017 car with 2019 compliance, so compliance date is not a date to go off. Always go off build date and VIN. This will designate the correct year model of the car. You can get a ‘18 build 19MY car due to the way new year models are released. Or you can get a ‘19 compliance car that’s a 18MY.

    But yes, if it’s this time of the year, wait a month. But just to let you know, at the point of sale, some car dealers will have your car already in the system. So make sure if you want a 19 plated car, that it is. Or else, you might get an old stocker with a 18 plate on it, even though it is a 19MY.

    InB4: @spackbace comes in and tells us how it’s all different in WA… :P

    • spackbace on 15/11/2018 - 01:42
      +1

      WA sells off compliance date not build date 😁

      And look where op lives 😉

      • pegaxs on 15/11/2018 - 01:45

        Dude, I’m in Singapore, I swear, it’s only you and me awake at this time of night…

        Side note for OP (because spack replied and I can’t edit my post)

        Have a read of this thread that has some info on VIN/build/compliance stuff… might be the info you are after…

        • spackbace on 15/11/2018 - 01:47
          +1

          It's only 1047pm lol

  • spackbace on 15/11/2018 - 01:41
    +2

    As a car salesman, year makes a difference, though the price difference could already be justified. You'll find many dealers clearing 2018 stock but charging full price for 2019.

    What sort of car are you looking at?

    • bargrin on 15/11/2018 - 02:29

      ok, this could be case as I wasnt haggling much but they were coming down a lit bit without me pushing.

      was looking at the Kia, I think the only "bargain" new car prices in terms of specs and warranty out there.

      • spackbace on 15/11/2018 - 02:57

        Warranty is neither here nor there, don't buy a car because of 2yrs extra warranty.

        Which kia? Last I checked they have more than 1 😂

        • bargrin on 15/11/2018 - 03:16

          started looking at cerato baseline at $21k but then saw they doing a sale on Sportage Premium coming down to maybe $30k

  • Ocker on 15/11/2018 - 08:02

    There is (a) the build date and (b) the compliance date.
    If you buy a car in February 2019 with a build date of December 2018 and a compliance date of January 2019, then it is effectively already one year old when you buy it. When selling you would need to advertise the car as a 2018 Sportage.

    • tanksinatra on 15/11/2018 - 08:28

      My understanding is that you can advertise it any way you wish.
      You can advertise by build date, compliance date or model year. Just be clear on which you're using.

      Most buyers would check the build date on the plate anyway.

    • spackbace on 15/11/2018 - 10:18
      -1

      When selling you would need to advertise the car as a 2018 Sportage.

      Wrong.

      Again, WA sells off compliance date. OP is from WA

      • tanksinatra on 15/11/2018 - 10:48

        Bear in mind that sites like Carsales list both dates anyway (unless the seller has withheld it).
        When time comes to sell you'd probably prefer both dates to be newer.

      • Ocker on 15/11/2018 - 17:07
        -1

        "The compliance plate is always stamped with a later date than the build plate, often by month, to take into account the six to 12 weeks in can take a car to be shipped to Australia.

        It’s the compliance date that determines what year model a car is – at least when it’s new.

        And this is where it gets murky. While you can legally advertise a car with a 2014 compliance plate as a 2014 model, the reality is car dealers – and the industry – will value it off the build plate. So if it was built in 2013 but sold in 2014 it will still be considered a 2013 model – and valued as such."

        • spackbace on 15/11/2018 - 17:25

          Having worked alongside valuers and managers, I can assure you that a car is valued and sold as its complied. Not built.

          Don't quote articles and think you know, I have the first-hand experience in the actual industry you're trying to form an opinion on!

          • tanksinatra on 15/11/2018 - 19:06
            +1

            @spackbace: Having had cars assessed I can tell you that used car dealers will look at all the plates on the car (as well as condition, mileage, market sentiment etc). I've even had a dealer ask me to send them photos of all the plates before they would give me a quote on trade-in.

            After all, why wouldn't a car dealer be expected to use all the information at their disposal? I know I would!

            • spackbace on 16/11/2018 - 19:31

              @tanksinatra: There's a difference between asking to see them, and valuing it based on different years.

              • tanksinatra on 16/11/2018 - 20:14

                @spackbace:

                There's a difference between asking to see them, and valuing it based on different years.

                It all factors into their equation. They'll advertise it off the compliance plate as will their finance/insurance/etc but at the end of the day they'll need to shift it to a buyer. Given how easy it is to check when the vehicle was actually built (most websites list it these days), having the dates match up will make negotiations with buyers a lot easier. And that's worth real money.

          • spackbace on 16/11/2018 - 19:30
            +1

            @spackbace: Aww did someone get butt-hurt at my truths 😂

            • pegaxs on 17/11/2018 - 14:41
              +1

              @spackbace: Hmmmm… Who to believe. The guy that's been a car salesman for years, or some random dude who traded a car in at some stage in their life.

              It's a tough ask.

  • bargrin on 16/11/2018 - 20:21

    So how can I confirm with other than the dealer I am going to get a 2019 compliance plate?

    That is, I assume to get a 2019 compliance plate there is an authority in WA who issues the compliance?

    So when I order my car can i ask the dealer for a reference number to confirm my ordered car with the WA authority, will be in fact 2019 compliance plated?

    • spackbace on 17/11/2018 - 00:36
      +1

      If it's delivered in 2019, it'll have a 2019 compliance.

      Alternatively, get it written on the contract - "vehicle will be 2018 built/2019 complied" etc

      • pegaxs on 17/11/2018 - 14:48
        +1

        This.

        Get it written into the contract. When it's time for pickup, check. Don't sign anything until you see it and confirm the plate. If it's not "complied" '19, then refuse delivery.

        Then get ready for the unending dealer bullshit to ensue once you refuse to sign.

        Then, once you sign for the wrong car that you didn't want, feel free to come back here and complain about and argue with all the people that say "I told you so."

        • tanksinatra on 17/11/2018 - 21:26

          This. Get it in writing. Check before you accept delivery.

  • Euphemistic on 18/11/2018 - 06:34

    It will make less difference to the value of the car than the overall condition and kms after about 5yrs.

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