Building a New PC. Would You Swap Anything out I Have Chosen?

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  cypher67 on 11/10/2018 - 17:09

  +14

  So basically the best of everything, are you trying to get talked down from the ledge or just want validation that you are spending as much as possible?

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    letthiswork1 on 11/10/2018 - 17:13

    I am pretty set on the main compenents.

    My main questions i guess is

    I can get 32GB 3600 Mhz ram for same price as 16GB of 4000Mhz - What would you do? Does the 4000Mhz make a huge difference
    Also around the AIO - Is the Thermaltake best option - To me they are a budget brand but perhaps they have changed

    It's a lot of money and i am curious if someone was spending the same amount if they would swap certain components around at all.

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      cypher67 on 11/10/2018 - 17:20

      +1

      Memory frequency has very small gains in the overall scheme of things. Amount of Memory will just enable you to do more things before you reach capacity of the machine. Very few application by themselves would use in excess of 16gb, however multiple application run at the same time could reach this cap. I would recommend doing some independent research of these topics prior to such a large spend, as opposed to the opinions of people in a forum. Everyones computer usage is different and only you will know what your preference would be.
      But seeing as budget doesn't seem to be an issue, get the most expensive stuff with the best flashing LEDs for epeen points.

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        letthiswork1 on 11/10/2018 - 17:28

        Hahaha exactly.

        Thanks for that i have been reading around and some people swear by higher frequencies and some say its practically pointless.

        Thanks for your reply.

        I can always add an additional 16GB if i want too, I think only time i would need more than 16GB is if i start playing around with some VMs.

        Cheers

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          cypher67 on 11/10/2018 - 17:35

          @letthiswork1: Question: How did you manager to ruin a computer via a spilt coffee yet the GPU is still perfect enough to sell for $1k?
          I smell lies!!!

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            letthiswork1 on 11/10/2018 - 17:47

            @cypher67: The GPU had proper shielding on it. seems like the coffee didn't get on anything to cause issues.

            I tested it on another machine and was all good. lucky break :)

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          CinnamonSnorlax on 12/10/2018 - 10:53

          -1

          @letthiswork1: Professional system builder here. You will not see a difference at all with the higher frequency under normal usage. Definitely go the higher capacity.

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      HighAndDry on 11/10/2018 - 17:33

      +2

      I can get 32GB 3600 Mhz ram for same price as 16GB of 4000Mhz - What would you do?

      The 32GB. You won't notice the speed difference, pretty much ever. But if you ever run out of RAM, that'll hit your performance like a brick wall.

      Also around the AIO - Is the Thermaltake best option

      Thermaltake are a respected brand, I wouldn't say they're the best option. I think industry-wise, EVGA has the best reputation for AIOs (not by large margin though).

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      [Deactivated] on 12/10/2018 - 06:23

      The speed needs to be compatible to the board, no point in having 4000 speed if the board takes 3400, I haven't checked your board compatibility, but you should always check, especially if you decide to swap boards just before cart. If you want the fastest RAM, make sure its the fastest RAM for your board. I would get the extra RAM. You got a lot of high end fast parts, make it all OTT.

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        magic8ballgag on 12/10/2018 - 08:35

        You got a lot of high end fast parts, make it all OTT.

        Could you please explain this? What does OTT stand for and why is it relevant?

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          [Deactivated] on 12/10/2018 - 10:51

          @magic8ballgag: OTT = Over The Top, If you have the latest and fastest parts, complete the build by putting in maximum RAM for maximum performance.

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  DogGunn on 11/10/2018 - 17:10

  Is this a legit post?

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  Archi on 11/10/2018 - 17:29

  I don't know… when I spill coffee.. its usually on my keyboard and not on the actual computer.

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    letthiswork1 on 11/10/2018 - 17:34

    If it helped it also ruined my keyboard.. The mouse survived though!

    I had it sitting ontop of my case… It got knocked over.. coffee went down and in lol

    Very expensive mistake.

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      dcep on 11/10/2018 - 17:38

      you need a new case without holes on top

      else it will bound to happen again

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        letthiswork1 on 11/10/2018 - 17:48

        The case is mounted on a wall above my desk. I just need to learn to not put liquids ontop of an exposed computer vent lol

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        HighAndDry on 11/10/2018 - 17:51

        +1

        I think if OP got a case without holes on top, his new build will almost certainly self-immolate the first time it's used to its limits. Did you see the parts in it?!

        On the other hand, that probably can't do much more damage than another cup of coffee so…

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        magic8ballgag on 12/10/2018 - 08:36

        you need a new case without holes on top

        Or maybe OP just shouldn't use their computer as a drink coaster.

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  DarthAntz on 11/10/2018 - 17:39

  +1

  I once spilled hot tea all over a keyboard at work. ruined it, dead forever.

  I swapped it with a keyboard on a computer of someone who was sick that day. problem solved forever.

  I'd by all those parts, build that computer, then post on ozbargain about if you could have got better value from spending $5k on a pc.

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  HighAndDry on 11/10/2018 - 17:40

  +1

  Background, I spilt coffee all over my PC (Don't ask how).

  Com'on, online advice isn't completely free. What's the story? Spill it! (pun absolutely intended)

  As for your actual question:

  CPU: 9900k - $799

  Utterly overkill, about a mile above the value-for-money sweet-spot even for hardcore enthusiast overclockers. But if money is no object…. I'd probably still go with an AMD Threadripper. But you'd have to change out huge parts of your build because it's a different socket, etc. Also depends a little what you want to do with it. Really can't imagine there'd be much you'd be doing (in a consumer, not enterprise environment) that the Intel Chip would be better though.

  Mobo: ROG Maximus xi Formula (Mainly for Duel lan ports) - $729

  Again, miles above the performance per dollar sweet spot but ASUS makes nice motherboards. I'm rocking a ROG Mini-ITX Gaming board and yeah, sweeeet. Change it out for an AMD X470 chipset one if you swap to an AMD Threadripper build.

  RAm: 16GB 2 x 8G Corsair Veng 4000Mhz $529

  Definitely go with 32GBs of slightly slower RAM. Outside of literally nothing but setting CPU overclocking records, you won't see a difference in not going with 4000MHz RAM.

  HDD: 1TB 970 Pro (Currently have the 259 950 pro but its too small) $620

  If money is no object, could get two of these for a RAID set up. Just don't use RAID0.

  GPU: GTX 2080 Ti (I have my old 1080 Ti but its the Aorus Extreme with inbuilt waterblock) - ~TBA 2k

  It's an RTX 2080Ti isn't it? Don't go buying a GTX2080, I think that could only land you with an eBay knockoff.

  CPU Cooling:: Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB 360 TT Premium Edition I want to go AIO but i am not sure on what the best one to go with is. #270

  Look here for recommended coolers. I swear by TomsHardware reviews. Apparently the Enermax Liqtech 360 is the best for Threadripper builds, otherwise go with the CoolerMaster.

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    letthiswork1 on 11/10/2018 - 17:51

    Thanks for your replies they were really good!

    Mentioned above what happened with the coffee haha

    I was browsing the intel thread on reddit and everyone is saying stick with the 2700x which i totally understand but i am just old school with my intel dedication.

    I will look at the 32Gb of 3600Mhz Corsair then!

    Yes RTX 2080Ti!

    Will checkout TomsHardware cheers!

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      HighAndDry on 11/10/2018 - 17:53

      Yeah. I mean, I know coffee is expensive these days but that cup of coffee probably broke some records…

      Post back with build pics once it's put together! That'd be amazing to see.

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        letthiswork1 on 11/10/2018 - 17:54

        Thanks Will do!

        Will place my pre-order for the 9900k tomorrow so its probably still a week out from now.

        Living the single monitor life on my laptop at the moment. Funny how much you miss multiple monitors…

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          HighAndDry on 11/10/2018 - 17:58

          @letthiswork1: I get what you mean with the monitor situation. I think it serves as a pretty indicting commentary on how people's expectations and perceived required living standards can inflate.

          I remember having a 19" CRT back in the day and thought that was amazing. And yet one of my 2 24" monitors died recently, and I basically couldn't function for a week getting used to only being left with one 24-incher.

          Reminds me to be a little more forgiving when kids these days complain about what seem to be ridiculous first-world problems: I probably complain about ridiculous things too, just without being aware of it. Different perspectives and all that.

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    N1NJ4W4RR10R on 11/10/2018 - 19:06

    I agree with this guy.

    Although I'm biased on AMD vs Intel…Intel's acted to scummy for my liking and AMD's been great for the low end, and make Intel actually do stuff on the high end.

    Should work out cheaper that way as well? Though I can't remember threadripper prices right now (lol)

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  [Deactivated] on 11/10/2018 - 17:54

  you dont need an i9 9900k for gaming. the 9700k and 9600k do just as good as a job

  if you want the cpu for productivity then you should switch to threadripper or ryzen as you get much much better value.

  also dont even bother looking at intel's comparisons of 9th gen vs zen+ they rigged the whole thing and disabled half the cores on ryzen to get better results.
  its starting to feel like intel is using scummy marketing tactics to cover up the fact that they cant keep up with AMD.

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    letthiswork1 on 11/10/2018 - 17:56

    I saw that on reddit. Very dirty testing!

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      puzzles2 on 12/10/2018 - 01:40

      +1

      It's up to you but if I were in your situation I would be voting with my wallet and not supporting a company with such shady practices.. Plus AMD's ryzen seems like solid competition now, if I were building a new build I'd go with AMD personally.

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    Zachary on 14/10/2018 - 12:35

    also dont even bother looking at intel's comparisons of 9th gen vs zen+ they rigged the whole thing and disabled half the cores on ryzen to get better results.
    its starting to feel like intel is using scummy marketing tactics to cover up the fact that they cant keep up with AMD.

    WHat really? They did it again??!

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  N1NJ4W4RR10R on 11/10/2018 - 19:08

  +3

  Just curious…but was your previous CPU in the Coffee lake gen?

  Because that would be amazing irony.

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  gimli on 11/10/2018 - 20:28

  why are you selling your 1080ti. WHy don't you use it and buy a better GFX card later?

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    letthiswork1 on 11/10/2018 - 21:21

    It has a built in waterblock and i dont want to go watercooling again.

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  idjces on 11/10/2018 - 22:40

  I brought the fastest 256gb m.2 drive available at the time. The lack of space was a hassle and down the road i changed to a reasonably priced wd 1tb m.2 drive. Couldn't notice any actual difference in speed, but the extra functionality in every day use was night and day. I also ended up downgrading my high speed ram in favor of cheaper, higher capacity ram.

  Honestly i'd scrap all your high end parts as you won't notice any difference other than a benchmark saying something ran fractions of a second faster.

  If you want to spend a lot of $, put most of the funds into the gpu(s) and monitor, that's what makes a real world difference. Run sli 1080ti's or rtx2080ti's.

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  [Deactivated] on 12/10/2018 - 06:15

  Honestly if you are spending that much money on top end gear, fill that beast up with 32gB of RAM. broom broom

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  dimitryp on 12/10/2018 - 10:37

  Are you looking to do some serious overclocking?
  If you're sticking with factory clocks or doing a bit of OC then you dont need a new cooler or premium RAM. I'd go for slower ram but 32GB for future proof (i regularly get close to my 16gb limit in my current PC).
  Depending on your storage use (mostly games?) i'd maybe go for a smaller cheaper SSD (nvme) and get a big cheap spinning disk (or a home NAS) to keep your big archive stuff (movies, games you dont play anymore, etc).
  Same with mobo, dont need to spend $700, i'm sure there's cheaper dual-LAN boards out there, or just put a $50 LAN card into another board.
  And even though i plan to get a 2080ti myself (because i waaaaant), 2x 1080ti's SLI will outperform it for less $$, so you could consider that instead.

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  letthiswork1 on 12/10/2018 - 16:03

  +1

  Bit of an update for those who may be interested.
  Wont have the parts until end of next week. Depending on if MSY have the 9900k ready on the 19/10

  I ended up settling on the below build.

  I ended up going a full ROG build….
  I have decided to hold off on the 2080Ti until some ray tracing results come out.

  Case: Corsair 750D
  CPU : 9900k
  Mobo: ROG Maximus xi Z390 Formula
  RAM: 32GB 4 x 8GB 3600Mhz Corsair Veng PRO RBG
  GPU: GTX 1080Ti Aorus Extreme with Waterblock
  HDD: 1Tb 970 Pro nvme + 4Tb HDD
  Cooler: ROG RYUJIN 360
  PSU: ROG Thor 1200W

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    gimli on 12/10/2018 - 19:12

    Forgive my ignorance but is ROG the Asus build. If so why do you need to wait for msy?

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      letthiswork1 on 13/10/2018 - 00:33

      I have pre-ordered the 9900k from MSY. Not released yet

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  Whisper Quiet on 17/10/2018 - 09:45

  Don't get Thermaltake for water cooling. They are one of the worst brands for that. They use aluminium for their rads and blocks. This cpu waterblock only has a copper backing plate but not internal. You need copper rads and blocks for proper cooling, plus with aluminum it degrades faster and gets lots of metal build up stuck in the rads and blocks, plus any coolant will also get stuck in there. Which causes a lot higher temps when the flow is blocked or has build up. Could cause pump failure and so many other issues. AIO coolers arent the best. Ive never used one but had friends that had issues all the time (companies don't use the best parts for them). If you're going to water cool you have to go custom loop. Its a bitch to build but looks and works so much better