Hello team
Has anyone used this Mass gainer.
I am looking for some feedback on the above and it's so cheap.
Any recommendations is welcomed.
Thanks
Hello team
Has anyone used this Mass gainer.
I am looking for some feedback on the above and it's so cheap.
Any recommendations is welcomed.
Thanks
Valid point.
Maybe to start and get into the rhythm .
mc donalds gives some good gains
Well, it gives 'gains'…..and then it takes….
Have not tried that brand. But when I was taking mass gainer protein, this was the one I used. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Isopure-Mass-Creamy-Vanilla-Natu…
Bulk Nutrients is my go to
Most of it just came out in my urine.
This super-high protein stuff isn't healthy and is mostly marketing BS, you just need to be in a positive nitrogen balance and caloric surplus.
Throw in some BCAAs and Creatine and you'll getting better results in a healthier way for less money.
It's not super high protein. Mass gainers are carb heavy.
I'm no expert in this subject but I recall that the concept of positive nitrogen balance is misinterpreted. The nitrogen isn't actually contributing to your growth. It is merely a measure of what's been broken down meaning consumption of nitrogen, like in many supplements, is actually non-beneficial.
I think of it as exhaust fumes. Fumes coming out the exhaust is an indicator the engine is running but adding more fumes to the intake doesn't make the engine will run faster.
It's not super high protein. Mass gainers are carb heavy.
Where did I say mass gainers are super high protein and aren't carb heavy? People who use mass gainers use them in combination with whey protein or whatever else, hence super high protein intake.
I'm no expert in this subject but I recall that the concept of positive nitrogen balance is misinterpreted. The nitrogen isn't actually contributing to your growth. It is merely a measure of what's been broken down meaning consumption of nitrogen, like in many supplements, is actually non-beneficial.
I think you've misinterpreted the concept of a positive nitrogen balance and how it relates to amino acids and muscle growth.
Pretty basic overview to understand the core concept - "Nitrogen is a fundamental component of amino acids, which are the molecular building blocks of protein. Therefore, measuring nitrogen inputs and losses can be used to study protein metabolism.[2]"
"Positive nitrogen balance is associated with periods of growth, tissue repair…. This means that the intake of nitrogen into the body is greater than the loss of nitrogen from the body, so there is an increase in the total body pool of protein."
I think of it as exhaust fumes. Fumes coming out the exhaust is an indicator the engine is running but adding more fumes to the intake doesn't make the engine will run faster.
That's.. in no way an applicable analogy for positive nitrogen balance.
You didn't spell out mass gainers and super high protein but ambiguity in your first few words did lend to it's inference
This super-high protein stuff
From your own reference
Therefore, measuring nitrogen inputs and losses can be used to study protein metabolism.
The measures are used to study protein metabolism. Increasing consumption of nitrogen will increase your nitrogen measure but it may not correlate to protein metabolism.
As for my analogy, it isn't specific to nitrogen balance, it's more to highlight the concept of measuring waste product/by-product and assuming that it is a direct correlation to the input or desired outcome. More waste product doesn't always mean more input, neither does it mean more/better outcome.
The product shown isn't super cheap. Many reputable brands have mass gainers at $10/kg. ON Serious Mass is an example. Google will give you list of vendors.
Just scrutinize the contents. There is no standard when it comes to "gainers". I can sell you a tub of sugar water and call it a gainer. It is unlike WPI where you are paying for a certain percentage of pure isolate.
Where from?
It's $10/kg in USD from US websites, all AU/AUD websites are closer to $20/kg when I google it.
You're right. Geez the price has gone up ridiculously.
Mass gainers used to be about 1/2 the price of WPI.
Just did a search earlier an the cheapest is about $15/kg (Maxx). Again, I'd stay away from gainers because they're an umbrella term for high carb shakes. Kinda like a mystery meat pie.
A "mass gainer" is just a standard protein shake with added maltodextrin for the huge calorie count. Realistically, the only people who need to use something like this are those that reaaallly struggle with eating (otherwise combining this with even an above average diet could easily blow your calorie count) or someone who is that physiological outlier and requires an insanely high calorie count. For completeness, a third type would be those using AAS but that's hopefully not applicable to yourself.
If you insist on something like this, it's best to purchase a cheap WPC or WPI from a cheaper online source like Venom protein or Bulk Nutrients, and then (as others have mentioned) add carbohydrates yourself. The easiest would be in the form of rolled oats (you can pre-blend them into a powder but should blend fine in a mix) plus fruit, yoghurts, etc. This should also be more filling which, depending on your situation, could be better or worse. More filling is good for those with a bigger appetite so that you don't consume several hundred calories from a shake and still need to eat (like you may need to with the mass gainer product) but could be detrimental if you struggle to eat enough. YMMV
That's why I use it, I was 5'10" 37kg out of highschool. Eating is not my thing.
Phooo…Too technical for me.
All I want is good muscle.
I am considered to be among them who have a very high metabolic rate.i eat lots and I mean lots and doesn't gain even 5gms of muscle.For my BMI I am lean.
Great views on making my own protein shake.
And that is something that can never work for me.its way too much work/effort for me.I have absolutely no time for this and not to forget being inherently lazy.
One of the reasons for me to have this protein shake is that it will motivate me to go for my morning run and ofcorse build muscle.
Will look forward to your feedback.
Judging by your comments thus far, the last thing you should be buying is any form of supplements. You seem to have trouble with the basics, so I can’t recommend spending money on supplements which will likely be used inefficiently (if at all, after 1-2 weeks)
In the wise words of Ronnie Coleman (RIP his legs), "everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weights."
Yeah buddy!
We are going off track.
Looks like none of them have used this Mass gainer before.
All good maybe will give it a go.
Thanks
Hey man, just wanted to let you know there's a community on Reddit you might be interested in for advice, tips & tricks, recipes, and of course motivation.
Thanks current.
I did have a read on the thread you shared.doesnt seem like anyone has used the product I have Shared.
Thanks anyways.
Thread closed.
Just make your own shake it's not that hard and is way healthier, cheaper and probs tastes better…
Milk, oats, peanut butter, whey, frozen fruits