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You applaud his honesty??? You for real??? The guy went out of his way to sell you a fake product! Shut him down! What about other people who have been conned? Has he refunded all his customers on this product? Do you think he cares, that he lost one sale? He's a liar and a thief. Trouble is unlike you others won't realise it till much further down the track. It's pussy-footing around like this that let's these guys dupe so many people.
I -urge- you to report as many details as you can to BSA and Microsoft about this seller.
gotta say this is pretty disappointing - especially after the support cdkeys received that they would lie to a switched on crown like ozbargain and expect not to be found out - I think they've lost a lot of credibility now, and I would be surprised if anyone from these boards considers them a viable option now
Posted this above but I'll post again. :( Really sorry guys but it seems like our supplier didn’t tell us the truth about the windows product keys. He said they were OEM while they were MSDN. Again we are very sorry about this but please understand. This was not our fault and for the game CD Keys, we buy from different suppliers and for Steam and EA Download Manager games, we provide you the scanned images of the cd keys inside the actual box to show you that these are the real deal. Again please accept our apologies or at least take this in a neutral way. But we only buy the Windows keys from this supplier and other cd keys from other more reliable suppliers. Also for not telling us the truth, our supplier has agreed to provide LIFETIME replacement keys for ANY Windows CD Keys bought at cdkeysdiscount.com
This means if your key has problems (blacklisted, ie) you get new key - FOR LIFETIME!Best Regards,
CD Keys DiscountDoes this mean you'll stop selling the Windows keys though until you get a guaranteed OEM?
<Facepalm>
So you are sorry you are selling illegal keys but happy to keep going on selling them. If someone has a problem with a blacklisted key you will replace them with another illegal key.
</facepalm>You were lying until you were caught out. Don't make out like it was all a misunderstanding, you say you require a photo of the cd-key for games, why wouldn't you for an operating system? You knew these keys were illegal but loved the margin you get off them.
Why should anyone believe that any key you sell is legitimate? We already know what your guarantees are worth.
We are trying to find a supplier with OEM keys and for kasp's question, because for games we buy from other suppliers located in places like Europe, etc. -_- and this WAS all a misunderstanding, here's the chat that I had with my supplier.
http://www.picturestack.com/546/184/cfLproblemepN.pngI don't see what posting a chat screenshot is supposed to prove. That could have been between anyone, I wouldn't put it past you to just have a conversation from a friend and act like that's a supplier. Also what kind of supplier deals through MSN?
It's painfully obvious that the only reason this whole miscommunication story came by was because you were caught out. You had enough people telling you exactly what license channel you were using and why it was illegal but that didn't sway you. Even after you were caught and know 100% that the keys are illegal you are more than happy to keep selling them.
Yet you expect people to believe that your other keys are legit. What rubbish.
If you couldn't find out, the website just started last month. Check the facebook page and Windows 7 Keys I've started selling since about last week.. And this was not between a friend. You are being negative for things that you don't have any proofs for. If I have the scanned images of the Game CD Keys, How will you prove them not legit? I'm really getting tired of answering your negative feedbacks.. -_-
This is what happens when you deal with dodgy suppliers.
Why don't you check the Windows 7 keys yourself before you sell them?
Check them with this tool:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/Windows-7-Pr…if you're still selling the win7 keys on your website, then you are now knowingly duping the people you sell these keys to, even if your supplier agrees to replace them, you still have no right to sell MSDN keys - you aren't going to find any supporters here if you continue to sell these keys, regardless of the legitimacy of your gaming keys (which have certainly been bought into question because of the win7 keys).
We are trying to find suppliers with legit Win 7 keys. In the mean time, we have disabled the products on the website.
Thank you,
~CD Keys DiscountIt's kinda hard to take the word of someone who used 100% legit, and I guarantee you so many times in defence of the clearly illegal keys.
You have ruined any credibility you have but now are saying "Trust me these ones really are legit"
well done - it's good to see you both listen to the ozbargain community, and that you don't want to continue selling MSDN keys - certainly a good start.
Kasp if you haven't read my previous posts. It was a misunderstanding.. And I only bought Win 7 keys from this supplier. From others I buy game keys. Could you please stop with the negative comments -_-
How does that effect your credibility?
Just because you guarantee that the game keys come from a reputable supplier and are legitimate doesn't mean much. After all you guaranteed us the MS keys were legitimate and we all know how that went down.
Yes and I admit that I had no way of confirming that supplier's words but these I know, since they are in scanned images. Actually all Steam and EA Download Manager Game CD Keys are in scanned images from the actual dvd box.
I guess the fact they are scanned off the original product gives them a lot more chance of being legit than just being text - quick question though, do you physically receive the games stock and take the picture, or do you simply receive the picture yourself?
We receive just the scanned images of the cd keys. Ask any CD Keys resellers and they'll tell you the same thing ;) We use the same suppliers as with most of them :)
We receive just the scanned images of the cd keys. Ask any CD Keys resellers and they’ll tell you the same thing ;) We use the same suppliers as with most of them :)
I think it was CD Keys Here (or whatever their name is) that said the product originally comes from Russia, where piracy + economic conditions has forced the retail price extremely low in comparison to places like Australia, etc.
Makes sense really.. And I have no issue with purchasing the same, legal product from another country for a cheaper price. :)
The fact you receive only the scanned image means that you could be getting keys from an unauthorised source - meaning you could easily have the same situation with your games as you've had with your win7 keys - even if it's not your fault, you're reselling a potentially problematic item.
I guess I just see a lot of risk in the way you're purchasing and reselling licensing - I like the idea in theory, but it just seems that the more we hear, the more risk appears - just my opinion though - more than happy to be proven wrong :D
You don't seem to be understanding my point. Your word means nothing now, you have given guarantees which were proven to be BS. Why would we trust you now?
I think everyone should actually just import the physical media from overseas, ozgameshop, zavvi or play-asia. It might be a little bit more but at least you know 100% it is legit.
The cd-keys themselves breach the EULA so they aren't legit.It is debatable if they are legal. Steam seems to believe that the keys are stolen in the supply chain from Russia or received with stolen credit cards.
Also remember any steam key they give you is worth nothing if steam finds out since they will delete it.
Ok fine don't trust me then Kasp. Also, sometimes you have to take risks in your life. If you don't, you would always stay where you are right now. Sure if you are happy with the place you are in, go ahead but I'm taking a risk and I haven't had a problem with any of the game cd keys I've bought. The Win 7 I started selling right when I posted the deal on here so I had no idea they weren't legit. But game CD Keys I've sold quite a lot and haven't had a problem.
wrong box :/
Ok steam doesn’t have steam keys, they are regular keys, there are games that steam allows to be downloading provided the user HAS THE PHYSICAL PRODUCT. Steam do not consider a photo of the cd-key sufficient.
So, in order to keep Steam happy, I have to retain the physical product I originally purchased. Yet, when I purchase a product from Steam, I get nothing. Conflicting ideas. But that's beside the point… The CD key, thanks to EULA's, ARE the product you purchase. You DO NOT own the software, you own a license to use it - the key. If Steam allow a user to download a product from their network, then they have an agreement in place with the publisher - Steam are already making their money.
There is a loss it costs them money to host the content. They provide this service to encourage people to use their platform. Not to give the competition a free distribution network.
See above. You are approaching this all wrong. They are not in competition with the CD key sellers - the product has been bought and paid for by someone, Steam have made their money..
The games aren’t selling in Russia for $20. Russia’s prices are more in line with Asia’s, at the end of the day if AAA titles were selling for 20 dollars on release they would lose money like mad. Australia does get rorted but like I said I am 100% for importing, but I am against cd-keys.
Have you been to RU recently to confirm this - I know I haven't. Piracy has reduced the pricing of original software over there to such an extreme - or so I am lead to believe. If all of these games are stolen, then I am sure Steam/publishers would know what range of keys were illegal and would have blocked them all.
Steam doesn’t make advertising revenue. They are promoting their own products, theres a bit of a difference there. They want people to buy games so they make money. It’s not like coke ad’s pop up or anything.
No, but they are selling other peoples products, via their advertising. Think Google Ads when searching Google. Google makes money for everytime you click - same as Steam.
Steam takes 30% of the sale price when the game sells on steam. No more no less, your assumption is wrong.
… I said;
Fact of the matter is however, if a publisher/distributor decides to go with Steam for their release, Steam has already inked their profits. They probably take the same cut no matter what the final product sells for, as their distribution point is pretty fixed.
SAME THING.
So, in order to keep Steam happy, I have to retain the physical product I originally purchased. Yet, when I purchase a product from Steam, I get nothing. Conflicting ideas. But that’s beside the point… The CD key, thanks to EULA’s, ARE the product you purchase. You DO NOT own the software, you own a license to use it - the key. If Steam allow a user to download a product from their network, then they have an agreement in place with the publisher - Steam are already making their money.
Steam's service, Steams rules, they say cd-keys aren't legit without the physical product it makes cd-keys not legit on their service. Please explain to me how steam gets money when you buy a game from a cd-key place. You keep saying they make money from this but how???????
See above. You are approaching this all wrong. They are not in competition with the CD key sellers - the product has been bought and paid for by someone, Steam have made their money.."</div>
They are in competition with them, they both sell games on-line, what's unusual about this they then get steam to deliver the product for them.
How have steam made their money? They make money through games purchased from steam, not games purchased from Russia. How do you even come up with this conclusion? It is like saying every shop that stocks coke gets money when I buy a coke regardless of the shop.Have you been to RU recently to confirm this - I know I haven’t. Piracy has reduced the pricing of original software over there to such an extreme - or so I am lead to believe. If all of these games are stolen, then I am sure Steam/publishers would know what range of keys were illegal and would have blocked them all.
AAA titles cost millions upon millions to make, the developer couldn't afford to release them initially at 20 dollars. It would bankrupt them. The big problem Russia has with video games is the fact that most shops over there sell boxed pirated games that they get for dirt cheap and sell for big profits. The piracy is very professional over there. Asia also has this problem but you don't see the prices you get at cd-key places.
You do realise that the keys are an algorithm that passes a checksum. Its not like the keys go 0001, 0002, 0003 etc. A bit harder to ban a range if they are not sequential. Also imagine the logistics involved to work out which cd-key is with which box where.
No, but they are selling other peoples products, via their advertising. Think Google Ads when searching Google. Google makes money for everytime you click - same as Steam."
It doesn't work like that. Steam would be paying advertising revenue to themselves. They make money when someone buys the game from steam. They encourage people to buy games so they get their 30% cut of the profits. They do not receive advertising cash from publishers. Saying steam makes advertising revenue would be like saying Apple.com makes advertising revenue for plugging their Ipad on their website.
Please explain to me how steam gets money when you buy a game from a cd-key place. You keep saying they make money from this but how???????
Let's try and do baby steps then…..
- Supplier has a cool game that they would like to spread to a whole heap of people
- They contact a heap of distributors, including Steam
- They pay these distributors, including Steam, to provide people with their gamesI will admit that I don't know Steam's internal workings, but I can guess that they certainly aren't in this business for the fun of it. If you take a cd key, from wherever, and put it in Steam, Steam makes a profit. Be it from a pre-arranged fixed value, or a percent per item added - I don't claim to know, I just know they aren't some non-profit organisation.
They are in competition with them, they both sell games on-line, what’s unusual about this they then get steam to deliver the product for them.
They are in competition for the original sale, sure. But for the costs, no. If you get a game from Steam, I can guarantee that Steam is taking a slice.
Saying steam makes advertising revenue would be like saying Apple.com makes advertising revenue for plugging their Ipad on their website.
Apple is different again though, because they control the distribution (iPod) and retail (iTunes).
Quite simply (I'm very much over this topic) - Steam will not be losing money. They are the distributor, any time an item is registered or downloaded from them, they would pass the cost onto the publisher. If they aren't, then their business model would've failed years ago.
I don't really care if Steam doesn't make money - I'm more interested in the developer of the game making money (you know, the people who actually do all the hard work). I'm personally a big fan of steam, and purchase most of my games from them, but I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep if steams profits went down - I mean, they did make around a billion dollars in 2010, so they aren't missing out!
Let’s try and do baby steps then…..
- Supplier has a cool game that they would like to spread to a whole heap of people
- They contact a heap of distributors, including Steam
- They pay these distributors, including Steam, to provide people with their gamesThat's ridiculous. Steam makes money on each game sold by the steam platform. Just the same as EB, Big W etc make money each unit sold. They buy the unit from the publishers and then sell it on with a margin slapped on top. Just like every other industry.
I will admit that I don’t know Steam’s internal workings, but I can guess that they certainly aren’t in this business for the fun of it. If you take a cd key, from wherever, and put it in Steam, Steam makes a profit. Be it from a pre-arranged fixed value, or a percent per item added - I don’t claim to know, I just know they aren’t some non-profit organisation.
Steam do this to encourage people to use their platform. They do not receive money for this they are doing it as a service to the gaming community and perhaps get people out of the brick and mortar stores for their next purchase. If steam was making money from these cd-key places why would they say that without the physical box the games are illegitimate in their eyes and will ban them. IT MAKES NO SENSE.
They are in competition for the original sale, sure. But for the costs, no. If you get a game from Steam, I can guarantee that Steam is taking a slice.
Steam does not make any money from accepting cd-keys shops. If they made money from them they wouldn't have such an issue with them.
Apple is different again though, because they control the distribution (iPod) and retail (iTunes).
Steam receives no advertising revenue. They make money selling the games they promote. Every sale on steam means they make more money, they do not get paid by the publishers for promoting games. After all a lot of indie games with absolutely no clout and hardly any financial backing get promoted as well.
I think everyone should actually just import the physical media from overseas, ozgameshop, zavvi or play-asia. It might be a little bit more but at least you know 100% it is legit.
What's the difference between say, selling just the CD keys of said imported media and shipping the DVD box?
None- exactly, the DVD itself is worthless as without the CD key (license) the software itself is worth nothing / not usable.
I don't see why there's so much negativity about selling CD keys. Regardless of whether you pay more or pay less for the product, the fact is that game dev has already produced the game and sold it to a retailer. If the retailer decides that he wants to save on shipping by selling just the CD key without the box — whats wrong with that?
Steam is just a middle man selling games to get profit, they are no different to any EB or Game reseller. Why insist on paying money to them?
Well there is a huge difference. Steam says that for a game to be valid you have to actually have the physical box.
The reason they say this is because of cd-key places. Steam allows people who bought a phyical copy to add it to their steam collection and perhaps convert some people into using steam. They do not do this so their direct competition can have a free delivery service. Yes cd-key shops are in direct competition with them.
It's like walking into Subway with an unlimited refills McDonald's cup and refilling your coke. Sure you bought the coke but you did not buy it from Subway. After all why not just walk into EB grab the game and take off without paying? after all you did purchase the cd-key.
Steam is well within their right to tell these companies to piss off and ban the keys. After all it costs steam money to supply the game to you and cd-key shops do not pay steam a cent. Steam also takes exception since alot of these cd-keys they say are actually stolen.
If you are downloading the game from Steam doesn't it make sense to listen to what they have to say on the matter?
the thing is, Steam has a vested interest in cd-key suppliers not doing well - more business for them - in the same way cinemas try to limit people bringing in outside food/drink - it's not cause the coke for the supermarket is harder to clean off their floors then the coke from their stall, it's because they make money out of their coke, and none from the outside coke (seen as though we're on coke analogies :P)
I can certainly see Steams point of view, and I'd take the same line if I was running Steam, but it's certainly not something to gauge the legalities of cd-key suppliers, for that, we need impartial parties.
It's not really like that though. You are paying the cinema regardless to watch a movie, sneaking in a water they do not care about. You are not giving steam a cent when you use a cd-key place.
It is Steams service, why would they allow a competitor to use it as a free distribution platform?
What these companies are doing is abusing steam, steam has been incredibly good to the gaming industry and things like this will just turn them into the next activision. I wouldn't be surprised if in the near future steam removes the ability to add games from outside because of cd-key places.It's bad enough that all the cd-keys are bought by the same Russian guy which pretty much has dodgy Russian mafia dealings stamped all over it. They then go and abuse one of the best services to happen to gaming which is Steam.
Not all my keys are bought from Russia -_-
Wow.. You really love Steam, don't you?
You do realise that for any game that ISN'T from Steam, adding it in does nothing, and effects Steam in no way whatsoever - right?
Most of the keys being sold on this website say that they are for EADM. Just because you CAN buy that same game from Steam, doesn't mean that buying a legitimate, original versions CD key robs Steam of profits. Unless you think that for some reason me buying from Retailer X rips off Retailer Y…..
I really don't understand all this Steam fanboyism - why the hell do you think it is so amazingly awesome? You get charged almost full RRP for a digital copy, yet almost all of the expenses associated with that high RRP are related to shipping, packaging and middle-man costs. So whilst each member of the retail chain snaps up 5-10%, Steam must rip a massive profit on each item.
Yes it does actually. If you buy a game from their direct competition and then use steam as a delivery platform it does effect them.You buy a product from Retailer X but then get Retailer Y to supply it it does actually rip them off.
A few facts about steam, if a publisher sells from a retail shop they get 30% if they sell through steam they get 70%. The publishers are the ones who set the prices. Steam is trying to get them to remove the price discrepancy between Aus and the US and constantly pressures publishers to do huge deals. For example I picked up GTA 4 for 5 bucks and Battlefield bad company 2 for 15. You ever seen their holiday sales? Absolute madness.
Yes it does actually. If you buy a game from their direct competition and then use steam as a delivery platform it does effect them.
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You are aware that if you buy a CD key for EADM, you are 100% UNABLE TO DOWNLOAD IT FROM STEAM. Yes?
As an example: I purchased Batman:AA recently (physical copy) and the CD key included in the case activated it on GFWL. Strangely enough, I was unable to activate against Steam, as it was not a Steam generated key. The same goes for EADM keys..
I am not talking about EADM or GFWL. I am talking about their steam keys. They do have a specific category for steam keys on their site. We have proved their Windows 7 keys are BS, and that their steam keys are ripping off steam.
Really confident that their EADM and GFWL keys are legit?
OK, let's take a step back for a second then.
Let's assume that these keys are from legitimate sources - we have no reason to suspect so far, and they do provide photo evidence of the retail product. Let's NOT jump on the whole "stolen dvds/criminal money laundry ops/etc", we'll just make the assumption that someone, somewhere, has purchased these game cases.
If they are Steam keys, that are on retail products, then there is no loss to be incurred by Steam that they wouldn't have taken if the product was bought by a regular user in the country of origin anyway.
If the game cases (with a Steam key) is being sold in RU for $20, and the same item is being sold in AU for $90, then clearly someone is taking a larger piece of the pie somewhere along the way.
If Steam loses money when someone buys from RU, then that is their problem - not ours. I find it very hard to believe that this would be true though.
Honestly, considering the amount of advertising on Steam's program, I'm sure they don't really give a crap where the CD key came from - they still get a cut anyway. The chance of a user spending more money after using their program is probably the larger driving force.
Fact of the matter is however, if a publisher/distributor decides to go with Steam for their release, Steam has already inked their profits. They probably take the same cut no matter what the final product sells for, as their distribution point is pretty fixed.
Ok steam doesn't have steam keys, they are regular keys, there are games that steam allows to be downloading provided the user HAS THE PHYSICAL PRODUCT. Steam do not consider a photo of the cd-key sufficient. So your first assumption is flawed Steam has no drama offering the service to people who bought the physical product but does have an issue with people using cd-keys. This is because they offer this service as a benefit to their members and encourage people to use their platform.
There is a loss it costs them money to host the content. They provide this service to encourage people to use their platform. Not to give the competition a free distribution network.
The games aren't selling in Russia for $20. Russia's prices are more in line with Asia's, at the end of the day if AAA titles were selling for 20 dollars on release they would lose money like mad. Australia does get rorted but like I said I am 100% for importing, but I am against cd-keys.
Steam doesn't make advertising revenue. They are promoting their own products, theres a bit of a difference there. They want people to buy games so they make money. It's not like coke ad's pop up which they get paid for.
Steam takes 30% of the sale price when the game sells on steam. No more no less, your assumption is wrong.
…100% legit LOL
Thanks for the proof. It was obvious from the get go, but it's unbelievable that people were trying to justify how it's legit.
I bought Bulletstrom cdkey from this site and it doesnt work. The website does not allow to contact the client. until they get back to me i am advising people not to buy from this website.!!!!
until they get back to me i am advising people not to buy from this website.!!!!
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what are you waiting for?Sounds heaps legit. Selling MSDN keys and even their game keys are not working. These cd key places are just dodgy. More than likely they will just flick you another dodgy cd-key and hope it works.
I suppose they will keep banging on about their keys being 100% legit and this one bad key just managed to slip through.
Ok you bought the game and sent us an email saying that it does not work on steam. As I stated this in the above, JUST BECAUSE A GAME IS LISTED ON STEAM DOES NOT MEAN IT CAN BE ACTIVATED BY STEAM! This key was for Games for Windows Live. And you need to download the game via torrent, etc to activate the full game.
Here is what I said previously.
":/ Let me make this clear in case you guys don’t know. Every game published by EA can be activated ONLY by EA Download Manager REGION-FREE (Except for BulletStorm because the publisher for some reason went with Games For Windows Live and for GFWL keys you have to get the game from somewhere like torrent to activate). Just because it’s on steam, it doesn’t mean it can be activated on steam.. I think this is what everybody is misunderstanding. Thinking that every game can be activated by steam.. Also most Steamworks title like Orange Box and Call of Duty usually ARE region-locked and if they are we will state in our product description and we can also activate the game for you."
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They have contacted me again and instructed me on how to install this game, the reply was quite quick as well. Service from the company seems to be excellent.
If I buy Dragon Age II now, will I get the key before release so I can pre-load on EADM or will I have to wait until release day before I even get the key?
If you have already ordered, you will get keys tomorrow or day after tomorrow.
Hello, What about Crysis 2? If I buy it now, when will I recieve the key?
Do you really sent the scanned picture and offer lifetime support?
Thanks
If this deal goes ok I have several friends interested in buying game keys.Same as above. You'll get it the day before or of release.
Don't know how you read my mind but yes that's my answer :) And yes you will received scanned picture and will receive support if you experience issues with the key. But we are not responsible for hardware not being good enough to run the game, etc so please read the system requirements since of course, this is Crysis 2 we are talking about here ;)
If you find better price we can give you bigger discounts to match price. Just contact us :) Also isn't there a rule or something that prohibits you from advertising other CD Keys store at another cd keys store's deals page? -_- If not, I think there should be.
i might buy if you can get it for $19.99 crysis 2 key and you guarentee it is legit and will work forever.
nothing will work forever nubzy not even the big screen you cant afford!
bought it from cdkeyshere $1 more than these guys but its legit
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Thanks, CDkeyAdmin
I applaud your honesty (this time). Its a shame that that you guys made a bad impression on your store on Ozbargains, I hope you clear things up on the legibility of the game CD keys.