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Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee Headphones US $165 (~AU $229) Delivered @ Massdrop

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This deal was last mentioned in June. There are a few hundred units left for current drop with shipping expected on the 19th of September. There are rumours Massdrop might turn the HD58x Jubilee into a perpetual drop like the AKG k7xx.

I believe these are the best headphones you can get under $250. These were designed to be like the original HD580 Jubilee released in the 1990s. However, reviewers like Zeos, have said they resemble much more to the recent HD660s when the HD58x's felt pads are removed. I have provided a link to Zeo's review below.

The question many people will have is to get these or the HD6xx (HD650). Which one is better? I have tried both cans and can provide an opinion. Of course, when it comes to headphones, opinions are subjective and I recommend others to try before you buy. I was lucky enough to have a friend as an audiophile geek who owned both pairs. That said both the HD6xx and HD58x will hold their resale value very well.

I prefer the HD58x over the HD6xx. Firstly, being someone who owns a pair of Stax, I would only be looking for a V-shaped sound signature from a dynamic headphone. The winning points of the HD6xx is its clarity, separation and soundstage. This is why the 6xx considered a leading reference headphone. However, when compared with EARSPEAKERS, there is no competition. My Stax absolutely destroys the HD6xx and purchasing such a headphone is considered a downgrade. My favourite song is Hotel California (the dual guitar riff is amazing!!) and it would be an injustice to revert back to dynamics for this song (unless maybe its the HD800s). One area that electrostats performs poorly is low frequencies (think EDM). In that case, for many electrostat owners, it would make sense to compliment their gear with a V-shaped sounding headphone (eg Vmoda cans are pretty good in this area). In my opinion the HD58x, with felt pads on, are the best bass headphones in Sennheiser's HD5/6 series. I also feel they are much less fatiguing to listen to than the 6xx.
Secondly, without felt pads, the differences in PREMIUM sound quality between the 6xx are negligible. Hard to describe because this is a subjective opinion. In a blind test, we would be able to tell the difference between a 6xx and a 58x. BUT if asked for the price differential, I think many people would say it'd be very small. Now the 6xx sells for $307 and the 58x sells for $230. In that case, the 58x provides a much better value proposition. If massdrop says it would no longer produce the 58x Jubilee tomorrow, I would not be surprised if this headphone appreciated above $250+ on the second hand market.
Thirdly, like the 6xx, the 58x seems to be a very durable headphone and a bargain for the price. I'd say the build quality is a tad poorer than the 6xx. Not a dealbreaker tbh as I think the 6xx is very durable… also its made in Ireland, not China like the freaking AKGs. Hey AKG, teach your manufacturing factories to properly solder mmmkay??? Also, those who hated the blue hue of the 6xx, will be glad to know this is not present in the 58x. However the 58x is very shiny and it can pick up scratch marks quickly.
Fourthly, like the 6xx, it is a very comfortable set of headphones and again a bargain for the price. Often this is an ignored quality on this forum but I believe to even consider a pair of headphones, you must make sure such cans can sit on your head for hours. There is a sub-cult in the headphone community who even collect ear pads. I own a pair of Stax L300s and spent $200 to get a pair of lambskin earpads alone…I HAVE NO REGRETS. Anyways back on topic. The HD58x earpads are slightly harder than the 6xx but I wouldn't be too concerned as they are made from velour. Like Sennheiser's 5/6 lineup, the HD58x would suit those with a more oval head shape. Go for the AKG k7xx if you have a larger/more rounded head shape. Again, my words mean very little unless you try these out. What is more concerning is the clamp force, so please flex the headband to make it more comfortable.
Overall, you cannot go wrong with the 6xx or 58x. If you do go for the 58x, your money could go into an entry level dac/amp like the Fiio Q1 Mk II ($100 used) or Topping NX4 ($140 used).

Anyways that's my review. I typed this up after three coronas so if you felt hit by a wall of text, I do apologise. Will try to paragraph when I'm a bit more sober. Peace!

Zeos Reviews the HD58x Jubilee:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJUL3wuY4O8&t=3s

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  • What is your favourite song of all time? Please comment here. :)

    • +1

      Iron Butterfly - In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida

    • +1

      Eminem - Drug ballad

    • +2

      Nights - Frank Ocean

      • Definitely in my playlist when testing out headphones :)

      • I fell for it. Jokes aside, that's a very good song from Rick Astley. Shame its become a meme.

    • +1

      Anything by Miley Cyrus, they're all amazing.

      • Party in the USA is hands down one of the songs at social events.

    • +2

      lcd soudsystem - all my friends

      Happy with my 598s for now but always been very happy with Sennheisers.

  • +1

    are these easy to drive? currently using a500's off a creative sound blaster z.

    • +1

      Very easy to drive at 150ohm. They would sound pretty good off most mid-high end laptops.

    • +1

      I've had mine since July, nothing comes close to these for the price. I even prefer them over my 6xx's for some music.

    • +1

      Hardware Canucks also reviewed them - and he mentions driving them straight off his motherboard audio, so a sound blaster z should work just fine.

      See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZtGFdurGmU

      If you really want an amp, you could look at a schiit magni 3 ($200), or a topping a30 ($150-ish from random chinese ebay/aliexpress sellers), or the JDS labs element that Zeos used in his review ($400-ish?).

      I'd try without an amp first - you can always spend more money later.

      • A very respectable reviewer and a video I'd suggest everyone watch. Also take a look at Joshua Valour's video, although I feel he's very biased towards the HD6xx in his review.

        Just expanding on your amp recommendation, also think about getting a DAC and AMP second hand. The audiophile community is renown for taking great care of their equipment so you will definitely encounter a bargain on the used market. I'd recommend signing up to Stereonet which has a great community. Just the other day I saw a pair of HD800 (series above 3xxxx) go for $800. This is a steal. In terms of DAC/AMPS, you can often find a SCHIIT combo for $200-$250 there. Personally, I'd recommend an OPPO HA 2.

      • +2

        I'd rate the Topping stack above the other budget options, especially considering you can pick them both up for around $230 during Aliexpress sales. The D30 is a much better DAC than anything Schiit offers in that price range, and except for having a slightly higher output impedance, the A30 is on par, if not better than the Magni 3. Replace the opamps in the A30 with some v5i's and you got a pretty amazing little unit.

  • Prefer the HD6XX

    • Okay, have you tried both?

      • Does it count if I have HD600 and HD6XX?

        • No, unless you have tried the HD58x.

        • +1

          @JuliusSeizure:
          Hmm, the reviews are mixed, but ultimately very close to the HD6XX going by the reviews. Not sure if it would be worth owning both but might pull the trigger anyway.

        • @reactor-au: All good brother. At least now others know.

          Don't pull the trigger. Try them before you buy - go to Stereonet and see if there is can jam happening in your area. That being said, I am of the believe that these cans will hold value upon resale.

        • @JuliusSeizure: 8 hours left, not much time to decide :P

        • @reactor-au: Haha, it'll be back. Just depends how long you want to wait.

          Just to help you, we currently have a very cruddy AUD/USD. You can wait a few months for the FX to improve. The mining industry is getting out of a 6 year slump which should help.

        • +1

          @JuliusSeizure:
          Yeah might not be a bad idea, already have enough 'phones and use the ANC wireless ones more and more these days simply for the convenience (not to mention smartphones doing away with audiojacks).

        • @reactor-au: tbh I think the fuss about the audiojack removal is overblown. Always a good idea to keep an adaptor in your home drawer and one in the case of your portable cans.

  • +1

    ordered a week or so ago.. will A/B with my HD600's

    • Would be keen to read your review! Many people are selling their HD600 and HD660s.

  • personally not a fan of the hd series, sounds perfectly, but not comfortable on my head. old school m50 is better.

    • The M50 is a closed back. Do you prefer any open cans?

      • had an akg k501 open back and it sounds lovely, also comfy. hd 5/6xx series are too tight for me

        • Ah good choice. Try looking into the k7xx if you can. Sennheiser purposely makes their spring steel headbands stiff so they will last for the promised 10 years. Under heavy use, a pair of AKGs will have trouble staying firmly on your head after a few years.

  • +1

    As a previous owner of both HD6XX and these Jubilees - yes their sound signature is quite different. 6XX's have more lower frequency presentation, sound generally a bit warmer. I had these hooked up to a DragonFly Red which paired really well; lovely warm/intimate sound (e.g. Neil Young/George Harrison) and great mid's & raw guitar sound (G3 concert/most rock).

    Jubilees i found less warm and not as detailed in lower frequencies. Treble on other had was very detailed and more forward/better sounding than the HD6XX's, which worked wonders for old school rock/punk rock (Van Halen/Ramones). Overall i didnt enjoy them as much as the 6XX as most songs sounded better on the latter due to warmer sound/bass/wider soundstage.

    Please note that these are my subjective impressions and your experience will greatly depend on your listening preferences and what you power them with (an amp & DAC are recommended). If you are interested in trying a new flavour of sound, get these as they are fun (as are the HD6XX's). You can always put them on ebay if they dont suit.

    (NB. I love trying out new cans and have tried quite a few in the last two years. Im now thoroughly enjoying a pair of KZ ZS's (+ foam tips) playing mostly Pink Floyd)

    Edit: for some reason the Jubilee's ended up making your ears warmer than the HD6XX - due the different (cheaper) materials used. This can be fixed with custom earpads i guess

    • Thanks for taking the time to post a short review! Did you try the HD58x Jubilee without the felt pads?

      I've never had the chance to try the Dragonfly Red. How do they compare against Fiio's mid-range dacs and the OPPO HA 2 SE?

      • +1

        I just used the standard pads they came with. some reviews put a lot of emphasis on different pads and impact on sound quality (mainly bass presence), i can't comment from experience, but worthwhile trying if you want to spend the extra $$$

        My favourite DAP is the Fiio X5ii and i found the Jubilee's just couldnt compete with the Fidelio X2's, which are the cans i ended up keeping. The Jubilees & HD6XX were also a tad fatiguing (im sensitive to treble fatique) if i remember when used with the Fiio (not so much as problem with the dragonfly).

        DF Red is great fun; very portable, runs off your phone (iOS/Android) easily or as usb DAC/AMP. It has a lovely warm sound to it with very nice mids, although not quite as detailed or with as large a soundstage as the Fiio X5ii. It was a tough choice getting rid of it, but i wanted to cash to get some nuraphones :P

        • Oh not the earpads, there are a bunch of felt pads in the driver caging. They act as dampeners. Upon removing these pads, your soundstage and clarity is increased (at the expense of the bass). Take a look at the Zeos Review, he'll show you what I mean.

          Hmm that's a fair statement, I've heard many people preferring Phillip's cans. Shame that Phillip's warranty isn't great (tried fixing a pair of Uptowns once). Ah glad to hear about your success with DF Red. Seems like a great option for those who hate stacking. My Oppo Ha 2 is sublime but sometimes I wish it came in a more portable package. Been thinking about going for an LG V series for this sole reason but I'm so accustomed to iOS. Considering my friends and family are Apple users, not being able to use imessage would stink!

        • @JuliusSeizure: I getcha, no i didnt try removing the foam pads. I take it would be like removing the dust covers off your speakers = big difference for high frequency presentation.

        • @Mr Mrrtn: Yeah sort of.

  • +1

    I own HD800, HD700, HD650, HD600 and HD58X from the HD line. HD58X had the least amount of listening time being the most recently acquired headphone. IMO HD58X is a very smart business decision from both parties at Sennheiser/Massdrop, creating a sound that is both fun with the upped bass but still with the signature Sennheiser house sound (albeit too little for my own liking). From my experience HD58X lacks a certain refinement in sound that the HD600/HD650 both possess and because of that it almost feels like Sennheiser had purposely created these to appeal to the masses and non audiophile crowd and probably that is most evidently reflected in it's price. Either way if you're starting out in this hobby HD58X is a very logical headphone to start or even possibly end with ( good luck with that).

    • Thanks for the review. Agreed, a very good headphone albeit at the entry-level. Have you tried the HD58x without the felt pads?

      • +1

        I have not. I'm the type that likes to enjoy headphones in it's stock form as created from the manufacturer and not tinker around. I find that if I have to change up the headphone for me to enjoy, even if it's something as minimalistic as removing felt pads, then it isn't the headphones for me.

        • Fair comment. The HD58x sounds great out of the box anyways.

  • How does it compare to HD 598?

    • Never tried them. For other models, Solderude did extensive testing and found:

       Bass extension: HD660S > HD650 > HD600 > HD58X

       Bass quality: HD660S > HD58X > HD600 > HD650

       Mids quality: HD660S > HD58X > HD600 > HD650

       Warmth: HD650 > HD58X > HD660S > HD600

       Clarity: HD600 > HD58X > HD660S > HD650

       Treble quality: HD650 > HD600 > HD660S > HD58X

       Treble level: HD600 > HD650 > HD660S > HD58X

       Smoothness: HD650 > HD600 > HD660S > HD58X

       Liveliness: HD660S > HD58X > HD650 > HD600

       Neutral sound: HD600 > HD660S > HD58X > HD650

      • It makes more sense to compare HD 58x against HD 598 rather than HD 6xx.

        • Why?

  • The drop has now ended.

  • +1

    Great write up OP!

  • The Jubilee HD58x are now back in stock.

  • Anyone else receive theirs and are completely underwhelmed by them?

    I currently run Sony MDR-EX1000 IEM'S. These pale in comparison

    Running them off pioneer xdp-300r DAP

    Can't understand the hype

    • The Sony EX1000s are some of the best reference class IEMs you can buy (see my EX800st deal for more info).

      The HD58x is reserved as a daily driver. Brilliant for the average consumer. Good for those who don't properly amp/dac.

      • Fair point, watchin Z reviews however he hyped me to think they would be as good as the 660's. Think my expectations were too high.

        Any opinions on the Sony WH-1000XM3 NC Headphones? worried i might have the same reaction to them as i did to these

        • You seem like a guy who wants the highest sound quality. Are you happy to go for IEMs? Look into Etymotic ER3XR ($260) or the Etymotic ER4XR ($499). You have to be cool with deep insertion though. It is hard the first time popping that cherry but it will feel better, I promise.

          • @Julius: Absolutely.

            I currently own:
            - Sony EX1000s
            - Sony XBA-H3
            - Shure 425

            No problems with getting deep. Wold the be worth it given my haul above?

            • @Archaleas: I would not class EX1000 as sound isolating. Haven't tried the XBAs. Shure 425 definitely overlaps with the Etys. If you're happy with how well your Shures block out noise, I'd say refrain.

            • @Archaleas: In terms of sound quality between Shure and Etys, the Etys knock them out of the park.

        • XM3 is in no way an audiophile headphone. I'm selling mine as I'm underwhelmed by the sound, bass is too emphasised and mids highs lacking, some tracks the bass actually sounds muddy as a dry lake

          • @reactor-au: Thanks for the heads up! I had a feeling this might be the case and avoided

  • The 6XX are available now.
    What's the cheapest DAC/amp you'd get for them?
    They also don't apply GST when I was doing a dummy order?

    • Do you need portability?

      • No just for PC

        • Budget?

          • @Julius: As cheap as possible that it'll still be good?

            • @follow: You can find a good amp/dac at any price range. Don’t believe too much in the nonsense that audiophiles say.

              Well… I really like the products Topping are bringing out. I think they are the best bang for buck. I’d be looking into a A30 & D30 combo. A seller is selling both plus a housing for 208 USD (before GST) on eBay.

              Btw, I am the owner of a Oppo Ha2 and Chord Mojo.

              • @Julius: Cheers. Would it be best to get second hand?

                • +1

                  @follow: Definitely if possible. Audiophiles take very good care of their products and I have seen these units go for 80 each. Also they don’t run by battery so that’s another benefit of going second hand

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