Thoughts on Nvidia's New RTX Line?

Ghosteye on 21/08/2018 - 09:24
Last edited 21/08/2018 - 11:21 by 1 other user

With the new RTX2080 Ti, 2080 and 2070 released last night, what are your thoughts? Will you be getting it on release?

I personally found it odd that there were no benchmark comparisons, just the CEO throwing out exaggerated terms. The pricing really got to me, with almost double the price of previous releases, we're going to see insane prices here for the 20xx series in Australia.

I will probably be getting a 1080 now, but odds are these cards are probably going to stay the same in price.

Mod 11am: Poll options changed per OP request and votes reset, please revote if you had previously.

Poll Options

  • 19
    I'll be sticking with my gtx 10xx line
  • 3
    I'm going to preorder it
  • 1
    I'm going to get a new GTX 10xx card
  • 36
    I'll be waiting for official benchmarks before making a decision
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Comments

  • hogwarts on 21/08/2018 - 09:28
    +7

    i'm going to stick to intel hd graphics

    • MathNerd on 21/08/2018 - 09:36
      +2

      I'll stick to MS-DOS graphics.

  • Gronk on 21/08/2018 - 09:41

    It's worth bearing in mind that this time around NVidia has released the ti version of the card at the same time as the founders, normally the ti isn't released for 12 -18 months after the founders cards the RTX2080 is the same price as the GTX1080 when it dropped here in AU.

    Rumour has it they're around 50% more powerful than their 1080 counterpart, but as always wait for the real figures to drop before believing any of that. The real claim to fame for these cards is their ability to perform real-time ray tracing, which I'm sure makes things look nice and shiny but I'm not sure it's $1800 worth of shiny, especially to someone who bought a 1080 founders ;)

    • Ghosteye on 21/08/2018 - 09:45

      Exactly, I think the whole ray-tracing thing is just a marketing gimmick and has no real appeal to the general population. It just gives them a bogus reason to raise the price to unreasonable levels.

      I wouldn't be surprised if benchmarks shows that the raw computing power of the cards are about 10-15% better.

      • HighAndDry on 21/08/2018 - 11:22

        Ray tracing is the next big thing in gaming graphics - it's a matter of when, not if. (Light is best simulated as rays after all - it just takes more computational resources than current/previous gen cards could muster) But that 'when' question is obviously key because if it takes too long, then the RTX20XX line will basically ruin nVidia for the upcoming generation of cards.

        I wouldn't be surprised if benchmarks shows that the raw computing power of the cards are about 10-15% better.

        This is meaningless. Graphics cards have always depended a lot on single-purpose units, and the RTX line have taken this even further. So in some applications, the RTX cards will probably do worse than the Pascal/Volta cards, but in other applications (i.e. those with a lot of ray-tracing that can take advantage of the Turing cores in the new cards) you could see 20x or more performance.

        • misu p on 21/08/2018 - 21:26

          If you replace Ray Tracing with PhysX then I would believe you. Devs have to want to implement RT, if they do not then this is the most useless feature ever.

          Nvidia has a way of implementing new things (like hair works) that make even their own cards look like shit just to make other cards (AMD) look even shittier.

          Right now they have no reason to do that (AMD makes AMD look like shit) but again… who knows.

        • Ghosteye on 22/08/2018 - 22:33

          I'm pretty sure Ray tracing is going to be the next Nvidia hairworks. Its cool and all, but it just destroys the frame rate and game companies won't be bothered in making those games after nvidia drops their sponsorship.

          There are a lot of people saying that when the ray tracing was turned on during the show the output was at 60fps. Imagine paying 2 thousand dollars to get 60fps. I would vomit.

        • Buyingcrap on 23/08/2018 - 06:50

          @Ghosteye: Tomb Raider was getting between 30 and 45 fps at 1080. I don't care how shiny it is I can't go back from 60fps now.

  • Godric on 21/08/2018 - 09:56

    The new naming scheme is just something that will take me time to adjust to, 'RTX'… i auto think of AMD/Radeon.

    Either way i'll probably purchase the 1070 equivalent once we get some juicy promo codes

  • Oz8argain on 21/08/2018 - 09:56
    +5

    It doesn't have to "suck" for me to stick with the 10 series…. it's just expensive. I swear every poll on ozbargain pisses me off

  • plmko on 21/08/2018 - 09:59
    +1

    They look like an excuse to keep jacked prices of the Cryptocurrency days. This is Nvidia taking the piss, but unfortunately people will buy this crap.

    • EightImmortals on 21/08/2018 - 12:00

      lols I was reading something this morning saying that GPU prices were coming down because the current crypto market is off the boil. :)

    • Namesareapain on 25/08/2018 - 15:48

      That is a load of BS, the reason that the price is so high for these cards is due to the huge die size of the GPU (which is due to all the Raytracing hardware), far larger than any other Geforce card has ever had before.

  • [Deactivated] on 21/08/2018 - 10:21
    +1

    There's nothing wrong with the 1080ti in today's gaming market.

    • HighAndDry on 21/08/2018 - 11:26

      Problem is, presumably people will be buying cards for tomorrow's gaming market. And nVidia has bet big on ray-tracing to take off… and we don't know if it will. It's used in pre-rendered graphics (and even SFX in movies) these days, but not so much in real-time, in-game graphics processing. Yet.

  • venomqo on 21/08/2018 - 10:44
    +1

    lol those poll options.

    • Ghosteye on 21/08/2018 - 11:06

      I'll change them up to be less biased

  • Buyingcrap on 21/08/2018 - 10:50
    +1

    Well I'm not feeling the remorse that I was expecting after drunk buying a 1080 for $600 a month ago.

  • NotAnAudiophile on 21/08/2018 - 11:34
    +2

    I bought 1080ti a year ago at 1k and though that was expensive. Sheesh 2080ti at almost 2k. Tell them they're dreaming…

  • sane on 21/08/2018 - 11:34
    +1

    Come on AMD and produce a competitive card. We need some real competition to drive down those very silly prices.

    • xuqi on 21/08/2018 - 12:00

      Yeah, fat chance of that happening……

      • HighAndDry on 21/08/2018 - 12:13

        AMD's RX5XX cards were very competitive in terms of performance. They still lagged behind on a performance-per-watts calculation, but it allowed them to compete with nVidia in the super-high-end market for the first time in years.

        Prices are high not because of lack of competition (the RRPs for GPUs are fairly reasonable, unlike Intel CPU prices a few years back), they're high because of mining, and they're high for both AMD and nVidia chips.

        • Ghosteye on 21/08/2018 - 12:50

          in terms of price and performance yes, but I'm looking for something in between the 580 and the vega 56 but there seems to be nothing from AMD that can fill that space

        • Diji1 on 21/08/2018 - 12:53

          but it allowed them to compete with nVidia in the super-high-end market

          What are you smoking bro, AMD has no competitor to the GTX 1080 let alone the Titan or 1080 Ti or Xp.

        • HighAndDry on 21/08/2018 - 14:31

          @Diji1: You're right, AMD has nothing that's quite up there but in certain (unfortunately not gaming) applications, Vega64 is competitive. Not better - and not with the Titans, but with the high end GTX1080. (Edit: I mean, certainly better than AMD was doing the previous generation where they had basically *no high end cards…*)

        • misu p on 21/08/2018 - 21:29

          They were never competitive with the high-end market (yet alone super-high-end). What have you been smoking? They held their own vs the 1060… and the 1060 is not high end. That is about it.

        • Ghosteye on 21/08/2018 - 21:47
          +1

          @HighAndDry: As far as price goes the Vega64 loses to the 1080. Including the fact that most games are Nvidia optimised it makes Vega a very bad buy at it's current pricing.

          The vega is a good card with a weak af value proposition

  • Diji1 on 21/08/2018 - 12:52

    I don't even think these cards are the gaming versions so everyone's getting excited over workstation products.

    Could be wrong.

    Explanation of ray tracing: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/08/microsoft-announces-…

    I don't see myself upgrading from a GTX 1080 Ti to the new generation GPUs at this point.

  • Illian on 21/08/2018 - 15:43

    It's never made financial sense to not skip atleast one generation between GPU purchases. Preferably two. So, since I have a 1080 Ti, no interest at all, plus this the first RTX line, I'd rather wait for it to mature a little.

    • misu p on 21/08/2018 - 21:32
      +1

      I disagree, I believe you should buy the latest model so I can buy cheaply your 1080 ti :).

      Joke aside I think that is a good plan. There are no current games with RT, so your 1080ti should be great for the next year at the very least. See if you are interested in any games that will implement RT (maybe you are not), and even when you do you should be able to just turn it off and still play great.

  • baldur on 21/08/2018 - 22:54

    nvidia is unrivalled at this point. so they have the power to determine the prices in the market.

  • Arcticviper on 22/08/2018 - 10:20

    $1900 for less than 60 R A Y T R A C E D frames per second at 1080p. (Tomb Raider + Battlefield V)

    What a time to be alive.

    Looks like I'll upgrade to a used 1080ti from my GTX 670 then.

  • the frost on 22/08/2018 - 13:47

    I'll be sticking to my GTX 970 until it breaks or is insufficient for new games. Still running nearly everything on ultra at 1080p, suiting my TV. But if it broke now, I'd probably go a 1070, or if it broke six months from now, maybe a 2060 if it's available then.

    • DiscoJango on 23/08/2018 - 11:25

      Im the exact same as you, gtx 970. Plays most games on very high settings on 1920 x 1080 which is more than good enough for me

  • Bargain4Days on 23/08/2018 - 14:13

    Waiting, currently own a 1070 which does fine for QHD 144hz gaming, kinda dissapointed with, but expected as NVIDIA has no actual competition, pricing is ridiculous, but preorders have sold out (go figure), the hype of RTX is surging, although the lack of most games supporting the Ray tracing feature is kinda the main selling point of the RTX lineup. probaly will be waiting for a cheap 1080ti for <700. hopefully then prices on the old cards starts dropping

    • Diji1 on 24/08/2018 - 11:19

      waiting for a cheap 1080ti for <700

      That's where the bang for buck is to be had. 1080 Ti prices have started tumbling in the US and should fall more in the next two weeks according to guessers.

  • EnegueWeil on 27/08/2018 - 16:00

    gonna stick with the 10 series for now. yea, ray tracing is op and all, but imagine how many games would be using it, now. majority of most pc games are still not ray tracing capable yet. maybe in the future, yes, it will be something to consider.

    my guess the new 20 series cards will be still an improvement, but say at around 20% +/- .

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