[Help Needed] Speeding Fine in Victoria

Ltallguyinoz on 19/07/2018 - 10:29
Last edited 19/07/2018 - 14:38 by 1 other user

Hello OzB mates I need your help and opinions about what I should do about the speeding tickets I recd for our trip to VIC in Mar 2018 - driving back to Melbourne from the 12 apostles. I received 3 infringement notices for this return trip - all captured by a speed camera

  1. alleged speed 108 in a 100 zone - 6:32 pm
  2. alleged speed 114 in a 100 zone - 7:56 pm
  3. alleged speed 114 in a 100 zone - 8:02 pm

The total penalty for these is close to AUD 1000 and 7 demerits! I certainly cannot afford to part with that kind of money and this is my first time speeding.

We (couple with infant) were very tired from our trip and just wanted to get back to the hotel in Melbourne as soon as we could.

On what grounds can I request leniency on the penalty? Can I request all 3 notices to be reviewed together? What are my chances?

Thanks heaps in advance.

[Update] Oww! That was very harsh. Thanks all. Lesson learnt. Accept penalty and move on. I'll close this forum topic.

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  • [Deactivated] on 19/07/2018 - 10:32
    +1

    Unlikely to have any of these waived. If you had one notice and had a good record they could have waived it but given you have 3 its highly unlikely.

    • [Deactivated] on 19/07/2018 - 10:54

      VP would've only waived an infringement if it was for a LSI (<10km/h over).

      OP could possibly try to have fine 1 waived, but no chance for 2 or 3.

  • pyramid on 19/07/2018 - 10:34

    Zero chance. Tried for friend and they did not budge and he ended up paying ~$1100 and demerit points

  • HighAndDry on 19/07/2018 - 10:35
    +5

    Lol.

    Edit: Sorry, but what could you say?

    "I was speeding, but we had an infant in the car so that makes it not as bad"?

    "I was speeding but I was doing it because I was tired so it's not as bad"?

    Be glad you're lucky and didn't crash. Pay the fine. Next time, think about your ability to afford fines before you speed.

  • MeesusEff on 19/07/2018 - 10:38
    +3

    Wouldn't submit a review on the basis of 'we were very tired', because you aren't supposed to drive when you are fatigued either.

    • HighAndDry on 19/07/2018 - 10:38

      Yup. Everything OP gives as an excuse only makes it worse.

  • PissLUR on 19/07/2018 - 10:38
    -1

    pay the fine.

  • myusername on 19/07/2018 - 10:38
    +1

    pony up the bucks pay the fine and takeaway a very valuable lesson.

    Don't SPEED!!!!

    • [Deactivated] on 19/07/2018 - 11:06

      takeaway

      So I can't dine in?? Must I take away??

  • 87percent on 19/07/2018 - 10:41

    i thought if its on the same stretch of road, you can request one of them to be waived? Few years ago i was driving down to Portsea and got hit by 2 speed cameras, one of them got waived after i wrote a letter in

    • [Deactivated] on 19/07/2018 - 10:46

      No, it is not dependent on the same stretch of road.

      It is dependent if you receive multiple infringements where each of those infringements are for the offence of exceeding limit by less than 10km/h.

      This wouldn't apply to the OP because he would've been doing at least:

      114 x 1.03 = 117.42 km/h actual speed.

      (117.42 actual x 1.10) + 4 = up to 133.162 km/h on speedometer

      :: 120 km/h as per the speedometer at a minimum.

      No sympathy for useless drivers like the OP, sorry.

      • CMH on 19/07/2018 - 11:23

        I know my Speedo shows 10% higher speeds and I drive accordingly.

        Why does it matter what OP's Speedo says?

        • HighAndDry on 19/07/2018 - 11:24

          Because it means OP would've known/thought he was speeding even more than he actually was, and decided "(profanity) it YOLO" and continued speeding.

        • [Deactivated] on 19/07/2018 - 11:27

          I don't know about you but if I saw the needle at 120 and I was in a 100 zone, I would've hit the brakes.

  • [Deactivated] on 19/07/2018 - 10:41
    +2

    Given the alleged speed is more than 10km/h above the signposted limit, you won't get fines 2 or 3 waived.

    You can try to have fine 1 waived under the Victoria Police multiple infrigements clause, but I doubt that'll work.

    Besides, for doing at least 120km/h as per your dashboard in a 100km/h zone you deserve all of these infringements.

  • Randxyz123 on 19/07/2018 - 10:42
    +1

    I’d say you have no chance

    We (couple with infant) were very tired from our trip and just wanted to get back to the hotel in Melbourne as soon as we could.

    Maybe next time do the speed limit and arrive 20 minutes later… Our speed limits in Victoria are ancient but it’s not worth the fine to ignore them.

    The total penalty for these is close to AUD 1000 and 7 demerits! I certainly cannot afford to part with that kind of money

    Then maybe you can’t afford to travel ?

    What road was this on?

    Look you’ve got nothing to loose by writing in and asking for a warning. You may get one for the 108 ticket but no chance for the 2 114 tickets.

  • altomic on 19/07/2018 - 10:42
    +2

    "sorry, i crashed in to your car and killed your family, I just wanted to get back to the hotel cos I was tired. LOL"

  • Yummy on 19/07/2018 - 10:43

    14km over.

    U r doomed.

  • dylo on 19/07/2018 - 10:43

    Don't speed, simple. We lose enough lives from fatigued drivers coupled with speeding.

  • kumars47 on 19/07/2018 - 10:54

    what you can do is admit fault in the letter, be remorseful, state that the best course of action for yourself and law enforcement should be that you will accept one fine(one payment of around $300 and 3 demerit points) and that this would be a fair penalty. This is also dependent on your driving record, if its clean please refer to this as well.

    My brother, who had a clean driving record for 5 years, had a similar situation but 2 of the 3 were in the same location, on a different day and the other was in a different spot, on the same day as the first fine.

    His only had to pay one fine and accepted only 2 or 3 demerit points.

    • HighAndDry on 19/07/2018 - 10:56

      Was your brother speeding by over 10km/h in two of the three fines?

      • kumars47 on 19/07/2018 - 10:58

        I believe one of them he was but the other 2 about 6-8kms over

        • HighAndDry on 19/07/2018 - 11:01

          Yeah, that makes more sense. Also was this many years ago? Because the criteria used to waive speeding fines are a lot stricter now.

    • [Deactivated] on 19/07/2018 - 11:00
      +1

      Are you serious?

      You should not give out advice that is neither accurate nor correct.

      I do not believe that your brother's counteroffer was accepted by any police force in Australia. He may have had one fine dropped under the multiple LSI rule, but certainly him paying only one fine is not a result of his counteroffer.

      It is a genuine surprise that people thinking along these lines are allowed to drive.

  • dasher86 on 19/07/2018 - 10:57

    Hard one as they are trying to toughen up on the speeding on that section of road.

  • stratbargain on 19/07/2018 - 11:01
    +2

    You should definitely tell the police you were driving tired, fatigued and speeding to get back to your hotel so you wouldn't fall asleep driving a long stretch of road with your infant in the car.

    … Think about that for a minute.

  • mreddie on 19/07/2018 - 11:02

    Pay the fines, you sped - sorry.

  • dcep on 19/07/2018 - 11:03

    move to tasmania

    • [Deactivated] on 19/07/2018 - 11:09

      More like move out of Australia.

  • [Deactivated] on 19/07/2018 - 11:03

    It's a nanny state. Tough luck.

    Incoming barrage of rhetorics and how thankful you should be that you didn't run over a school full of orphans.

    • HighAndDry on 19/07/2018 - 11:06

      I don't necessarily agree with our speed limits, but it's not as if OP didn't know the speed limit, or didn't know he was speeding (to be clocked at 114, he would've seen close to 120 on his speedometer). That added to the fact OP also knew he was tired and had an infant in the car? Yeah, there goes what little sympathy I might've had.

      • [Deactivated] on 19/07/2018 - 11:08

        I'm not patting OP on the back. Merely sympathizing with the predicament he has got himself into.

        Besides, low speed driving doesn't mean safer in every circumstance. He may have legtimitely felt more attentive at speed.

        • HighAndDry on 19/07/2018 - 11:12

          He may have legtimitely felt more attentive at speed.

          Operative word here is "felt". There's no way the adrenaline rush from driving dangerously pans out over a 90+min drive as being safer. Low speed driving doesn't mean "safe" - but it's definitely safer.

          And so no, I don't sympathize with his predicament either. Again - considering he was driving late, tired, with an infant in the car, and adding speeding on top of that - a few fines is getting off pretty lightly.

    • [Deactivated] on 19/07/2018 - 11:10

      How does not following the law of the land, declare that land a "nanny state"?

      If you don't like the laws that apply to where you live, move elsewhere.

      • EightImmortals on 19/07/2018 - 11:28

        I'm sure a lot of people had that attitude towards slavery and women's right to vote too.

  • GG57 on 19/07/2018 - 11:04
    +2

    "…this is my first time speeding…" -

    No, this is your first three times caught speeding, all recorded at different locations over a 90 minute period, which would indicate that you were intentional in your driving speed exceeding the posted limit and putting your family and other road users at risk.

    Pay the fine and accept the demerit points.

    • [Deactivated] on 19/07/2018 - 11:12

      OP is probably one of those self-entitled licence holders nestled in their 4WDs that scream past you on the freeway when you're doing 100.

  • DarkOz on 19/07/2018 - 11:13
    +1

    "I SPED WHEN I WAS VERY TIRED WITH MY WIFE AND INFANT IN THE CAR!" WTF? Did I read this right?

    • HighAndDry on 19/07/2018 - 11:13

      You left off the "HOW DARE THEY FINE ME THIS IS SO UNFAIR HOW DO I GET OUT OF THIS?"

  • Caped Baldy on 19/07/2018 - 11:20

    I have little sympathy, though the last two could probably be combined into one as it is one act of speeding imo.
    If you someone is assaulted and it is captured by multiple cameras, do they get assaulted one time or multiple times?

    Either way it goes, you have to pay up and cope the points.

    • HighAndDry on 19/07/2018 - 11:22

      That's a terrible analogy. It's more if someone gets punched. Runs down the road, gets chased down, and is punched again. And then apparently a third time too, tough break.

  • CMH on 19/07/2018 - 11:21

    If all 3 fines were on the same road within a certain distance you could get some of them waived.

    Not sure about the details, but pretty sure you'll pay for at least 2 of them.

  • Godric on 19/07/2018 - 11:23

    Ozbargain Magistrates

  • EightImmortals on 19/07/2018 - 11:26

    Fight them.

    http://www.aussiespeedingfines.com/

  • Moderatorneil on 19/07/2018 - 11:29

    OP has received answer, closed.

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