Hey guys.
Getting a new car and wanting to swap my old love of my life to give to my sister, whom is most likely going to damage it. I don't want to be reliable for anything, even if she is a relative I want all strings cut.
Does anyone know how to do this with a car that has registration on it?
Basically I want to swap ownership as easy as possible, with relative (same blood).
Just note there may be stamp duty to pay even if the car is "free".
It's okay. This car's stamp duty costs less than a ticket on public transport.
I bought it for $200.
Heh good stuff
What about road worthy certificates? I know you have to definitely use one when transferring without registration, but I want to transfer registration of the vehicle and it's on the road now. Would I need to re-prove it's road worthy?
If you're "selling" a car with rego, you need to provide an RWC. This transfer will fall into this category. There are some exceptions though, but I don't think you qualify for them.
Your closest exception is if the person you're transferring to is a spouse… Or maybe a family member is also excepted, check it out.
Yeah, I didn't think so.
IMO, there's no easy way to do this, OP will just need to get a RWC and complete the transaction the usual way.
Or is there another option where the title is still held by the OP, but their sister is considered the main/only driver of the car? Maybe write up an agreement saying that OP agrees to let their sister have sole use of the car, somewhat in the same way that a rental company gets you to sign papers saying you're taking possession of the car?
@StoneSin: I bought a second hand car from a private seller in February in NSW. No new RWC required to transfer the rego. The fact that the car's rego is current is enough. QLD may be different though.
That car's rego then expired in March. That's when I have to get a new RWC to renew the rego.
Just FYI. Stamp duty in vic is based on market value of car not what you/she paid for it.
Not sure what state you are in though.
QLD. And the market value when I bought it was not significant, the stamp duty was <$50.
It's a 35 year old car.
Welcome to the 'gravy train'…as spctre has said only spouse accepted in VIC. Family members get slugged with transfer fees & stamp duty also RWC. $$$ when it fails with 'sandblasted' windscreen etc etc.
Also 'Registered operator' is not necessarily the legal owner of the vehicle…afaik your sister could be the legal owner even if you are the registered operator and 'managing the vehicle'…
From the VIC roads transfer form:
VicRoads’ vehicle register is not a register of title (vehicle ownership) and Registered operator – an individual or corporation who owns or manages a vehicle….
Market value – also known as dutiable value, is the price at which the vehicle might reasonably be sold, free from encumbrances, on the open market; or the purchase price – whichever is greater!
So if duty on $200 is paid to the SRO they can pursue the difference…
@DisabledUser250914: Correct on market value, the RTA in NSW wanted their share of the cash when I transferred a bomb (but less than 15 yrs old) into my name for a short term run around. Apparently the $400 i paid for it was too low and they went off market value which is substantially higher!
Jerks.
@StoneSin: it's easy in QLD, sell it to your Sister for $1 & write her a receipt for $1. No rwc or anything needed as it's next of kin. I bought my Mum a car for her Birthday & QLD Transport forced her to put $1(even though it was a gift) there was no Stamp Duty payable.
love of your life for $200, where can I find one????
On a 1/100 lucky buy.
You have received some sensible and useful responses that actually answer your question. So I'll lower the tone of the conversation with some pointless pedantry. Your use of "whom" instead of "who" is a hypercorrection.
Yeah I find it interesting when people misuse the word - it is easy to work out which one to use.
If the answer could be "him" then you use "whom"
If the answer could be "he” then you use "who”
Eg "Who took the last biscuit?" "He did", but, "whom should I address the letter to?" "To him".
Yeah. I'm testing out the word whom. I thought of this the other day. Thanks!
Yeah, doozy that one. Another doozy from OP "I don't want to be reliable for anything," Takes some beating there.
Yet you didn't pick up on 'reliable'?! Interesting 🤔
What's wrong with reliable?
Was I meant to write liable?
The more I say reliable, the worse it sounds. You're right. I wrote this post in like 30s.
…transfer the registration into the persons name?
You can just keep it under your name. If she gets, say, a speeding ticket, you can nominate her as the driver at the time of the incidence. Have her take out comp/ third party insurance (which is a good idea even for an old car cos you don't know what you might hit) in her own name so that any claims should she have an accident will not affect your claim history.
+1 this happens all the time with parents & kids etc. She will be main user and takes out insurance in her name. Some insurance companies would require her to have a 'financial interest' in the vehicle…
Yes that is what I am doing with my sister when I sold her my car.
Still under my name cause the stamp duty is BS!!!
Anyway with insurance, some do require the vechile owner named on the policy even if not as primary driver.
I recommend not giving them any reason to deny a claim and go with it.
Adding my name to her insurance policy doesn’t change her premiums cause I’m super old lol
I kinda don't want ANYTHING attached to me. I don't have full faith in their driving abilities.
Yet you think it's a good idea to inflict the general Australian public with her driving?
She's better than a lot of people I've seen on the road.
&, yet, you don't have any faith in her driving ability?
In any event, it's not a rational fear as keeping the vehicle under your name doesn't posses any real risk to you or your driving/claim record.
If that's what you want, then all you have to do is sell the car to her and pay whatever stamp duty you're required to pay. There's nothing the OzB community can help you with.
Lodge a "Disposal of motor vehicle" notice and tell her to formally transfer it in her name within a couple of days or she will be fined.
Otherwise just sell it
It's your Sister & you don't want to be 'reliable'? Nice Brother! 🤣
vicroads / whatever roads, qld nsw
transfer application