Verbally Abused by Auspost Attendant - What Are My Options?

OzPunter on 06/07/2018 - 09:36
Last edited 06/07/2018 - 10:51 by 1 other user

Dear bargainers,
Sorry for starting Friday with yet another rant post.
I,an Aussie of ethnicity A, was racially abused by Auspost attendant of ethnicity B while trying to collect my missed delivery from one of the post offices in inner West Sydney.It all started when I have complained about not knocking on the door before leaving a card for missed delivery. The attendant started taking names saying ' the delivery guy is from your country and all you guys are like this and that'. Despite me pleading him in all my politeness not to bring nationality or race into the picture, he kept abusing me.I kept my decency and did not shout back at this person of my Dad's age.
Dear brethren,
What should I do now? Please suggest.
Edit:I did try to complain to the lady next to him at the counter, who happens to be from the same ethnicity a that of the attendant. Unfortunately, she took his side and said' we have been here from so long time, we hear these complaints only from you '. For people who think that this is a one sided , heavily manicured story, please be assured I have nothing against that old person.I should have taken video of that rant, unfortunately it didn't occur to me.I have complained to auspost guys who registered my complaint and gave case number.
All I want is, that attendant regret for his words and treat people with respect.

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  • 416
    Report to auspost
  • 7
    Report to the police
  • 112
    Gulp it down with a bottle of VB
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    • cloudy on 06/07/2018 - 10:35
      +127

      To tell someone who’s been racially abused to get over it, probably isn’t the most appropriate response.

      It seems just like yesterday that Eddie betts, goodies or even the famous Nicky winmar stood up to racism and be recognised as equals for the next day a story of racist remarks to be met with, “hope you have better things to spend your time on than worry about someone who was mean to you.” Bit sad

      • Blitzfx on 06/07/2018 - 11:57
        +17

        Probably the same kind of person who grew up calling kids in the playground racist names and when they were dobbed in to the teacher, told the teacher it was a joke.

        • D6C1 on 06/07/2018 - 15:50
          +2

          @HighAndDry: And how does it end if no one takes action to stop this behaviour of the said individual?

          Exactly.

        • cloudy on 06/07/2018 - 22:36
          +2

          @HighAndDry:

          Why don’t you go to suburb filled with ethnics and racially abuse all of them and see if you get home perfectly fine, and if you don’t maybe you will wonder why words can cause pain.

        • MikeKulls on 07/07/2018 - 08:28
          +9

          @HighAndDry: 24 hour limit on neg votes is 5 and I've used them all up on your less than stellar intellect

        • terrys on 07/07/2018 - 09:15

          @HighAndDry: "A wet mop". Did you see your mother with one once, or do you carry one to clean up after your drivel?

        • cloudy on 09/07/2018 - 10:33
          -1

          @HighAndDry:

          Lol, right, hurl abuse at someone and if they hit back it’s their fault for not having self control. Gotcha!

          You must be collecting negs lately, I won’t fall for it, I only get 5!

        • HighAndDry on 09/07/2018 - 10:52
          -1

          @cloudy:

          Lol, right, hurl abuse at someone and if they hit back it’s their fault for not having self control. Gotcha!

          Contrary to some cultural beliefs, yes it's possible to be insulted, exercise self control, and not commit a crime in return. I don't care about the negs, that's my entire point if you hadn't noticed - OP should grow thicker skin. And so should anyone who feels forced to physically attack someone based on words.

          You're basically defending people committing assault and battery. Good on you, what a stand up guy.

        • cloudy on 09/07/2018 - 12:28
          +1

          @HighAndDry:

          No I haven’t defended anyone committing an assault, I am simply explaining the reality of being human.

          All well and good for you to say people should refrain on doing this and that (ie, assaulting someone else) but you seem happy for someone to racially abuse, hmm.

        • HighAndDry on 09/07/2018 - 12:39
          -4

          @cloudy: Never said I was happy for someone to racially abuse. Though the gap from insults to physically attacking someone is a pretty big one to me, but you seem to think one justifies the other.

        • cloudy on 09/07/2018 - 14:53

          @HighAndDry:

          I never said you said so, just saying you seem to be happy with it given your response is pretty meek, ie, “Move on with life”

          And again, not justifying, I am simply explaining the reality of being human. I can repeat it again if you don’t understand.

        • HighAndDry on 09/07/2018 - 15:00

          @cloudy: To use your words, you seem pretty happy with people committing assault and battery given your response is that it's expected, ie, "it's only right if you get hit". Don't bother repeating - hopefully you never actually take your own advice and end up in trouble.

        • cloudy on 09/07/2018 - 19:16

          @HighAndDry:

          Given I don’t accept hurling abuse at anyone I think I’m fine. I fear for you my friend, don’t ever whisper a even hint of impoliteness and then follow up with, “get on with life”.

        • HighAndDry on 10/07/2018 - 11:18

          @cloudy: I don't accept hurling abuse either. I also don't accept physically attacking people, though you seem to. Also ahhaha "even a hint of impoliteness", get over yourself. Here, try this for size:

          Your comments here have been a waste of my time. That "impolite" enough? Now get on with life, coz I'm not responding anymore.

        • cloudy on 10/07/2018 - 20:56

          @HighAndDry:

          Aww, i guess none of your comments are a waste of time right? all finely curated words of practicality. Haha such high self esteem, well done mate, keep it up! I'm cheering you on, inspite of the other 150 other nay sayers!

        • ninjataki on 15/07/2018 - 15:01

          @HighAndDry: I've been abused in quite a similar carding situation by Auspost, but hey guess it doesn't matter in modern radically leftist Australia cause I'm white Caucasian ie somehow the new age 'enemy'. Why don't all these latter day maniacal activists just move to China and see how they get on with their rainbow speeches/rants.

        • HighAndDry on 19/07/2018 - 18:01
          -1

          @cloudy: I do this because it amuses me and provides a measure of distraction and entertainment. All this seems to be giving OP is an aneurysm.

          Eh, I'm not bothered that people disagree. Everyone thought the earth was flat or that the sun orbited the earth too. A lot of people can all be wrong sometimes.

        • HighAndDry on 19/07/2018 - 18:02

          @ninjataki: That'd actually be hilarious, because I'm pretty sure the Chinese government cares about 'stability' more than it does about racism, anti- or pro-Chinese. You could probably hold an impromptu rally against anti-Chinese racism, get a tonne of popular support… and still get disappeared by the Chinese government because you're riling people up.

        • cloudy on 06/07/2018 - 15:07
          +7

          To be honest I see lots of post doing all sorts.

          But even the idea of giving practical useful advice isnt just to say to someone whom might have to visit their local post office regularly,” to just get over it”.

          If you honestly wanted to be helpful, and this was ur best idea, it probably would have been best for you just to not bother posting at all.

        • OzPunter on 06/07/2018 - 15:58
          +8

          @HighAndDry: If it doesn't entertain you please stop reading or responding mate!!!Talking in your same language "Don't want to be offended? Just don't be offended." I say you get offended by reading comments then don't read.I am sorry to say but stop using your patronizing tone, you are no Big Brother to this humanity.

        • OzPunter on 06/07/2018 - 16:18
          +1

          @HighAndDry: Stop behaving as if you are a BIG BROTHER

        • OzPunter on 06/07/2018 - 16:38
          +7

          @HighAndDry: While I may be wrong in using the word, I still hate your patronizing tone. I am happy that I made you less bored but you really made me sick with your comments. Happy trolling somewhere else!! I don't want to feed your urge to mock people, so no more replies to your comments. Have a good weekend my friend!!

        • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2018 - 15:32
          -4

          @HighAndDry:

          Naturally this website is full of leftist bigoted tightarsed snowflakes.

          Don't let the bigots silence you. Since they are incapable of humour and their opinions are spoon fed as they are too stupid to form their own.

          BTW good username. I guess Pyromania and Hysteria were already taken ;)

        • bghunter on 07/07/2018 - 16:53

          @HighAndDry:
          Are you that old man at OP's post office?

        • [Deactivated] on 08/07/2018 - 00:19

          @OzPunter:

          Lol @ made you sick. I mean come on, you don’t have to put up with racism, that’s fine but just how weak does a person need to be to get so upset over a pretty tame comment. 2018, year of the professional victim. Bring those negs on lefties, I wear them as badges of honour.

      • p1 ama on 07/07/2018 - 21:21
        +1

        It seems just like yesterday that Eddie betts, goodies or even the famous Nicky winmar stood up to racism and be recognised as equals for the next day a story of racist remarks to be met with, “hope you have better things to spend your time on than worry about someone who was mean to you.” Bit sad

        I don't think you're really addressing the point here. Nobody is questioning whether racism is bad, the question is whether it's worth pursuing further action.

        Consider another example - someone breaks into my car (without causing any damage) and steals a few coins, is it worth me reporting that and going to the local police station? Of course, nobody is questioning whether someone breaking into my car is right, the question is whether it's worth my time pursuing it further.

        I know where you are coming from and I do think that it's a very noble point of view to stand up and do what we can to combat this sort of behaviour, but I think it also needs to be made clear that HighAndDry's post is not an endorsement of racism, but rather, an opinion that the issue is small, no harm has been done and OP should move on.

        • [Deactivated] on 08/07/2018 - 00:21
          +3

          Exactly. I can’t believe you seem to be one of the very few here that understood it the same as me. We live in ridiculous times. People are so soft these days. It’s like people are just foaming at the mouth to find something to be offended by.

        • cloudy on 08/07/2018 - 21:13
          +1

          So OP buys stuff online, he would presumably be like most of us, not be home and needing to pick up from PO most of the time.

          Is it worth pursuing given local PO is abusive against him?

          I think it is.

          I posted below of random abuses, i let it slide like water off a ducks back if its a random. Unfortunately this isn't going to be random if its from your local PO.

          Also, I might also add, I think if its right its worth pursuing, generally speaking. I remember the day before my wedding, i was at a car park with my parents and was witnessing a thief trying to open cars to steal stuff. I called 000 and reported and was telling my parents to try to slowly drive past so i could record them with my phone. My parents promptly reminded me of my business schedule that is coming up and not to worry about business thats not mine. But I firmly believed in the saying "the bahaviour that one walks past is the bahviour we endorse".

          Later that day, the local cop shop called me and informed me there was a tradie who lost all his tools, and if i could bring in any evidence i had. Many things are not "worthy" of my time, but still think if society is better for it, its certainly worth a shot.

        • HighAndDry on 09/07/2018 - 10:00
          -2

          @cloudy: How many households do you think OP's local PO services? This isn't going to affect OP at all unless OP decides to make a big deal out of it.

      • OzBarAnon on 09/07/2018 - 09:59
        +1

        As someone who has been hassled because of my race in the past, I think I can say that if it is just words, then it is something that you can just move past. My only concern with this is that if OP need to deal with the post office again, then it may cause problems in the future. As for how to deal with the post office people, if they have a manager, I would go to them if it happens again (or even now because of how the employees treated you). If the ones who gave you crap are the ones who run the place, then I'm not sure what you can do other than get the word out there and let people know about how they treat customers

    • cameldownunder on 06/07/2018 - 11:52
      -3

      OP is racist himself ! Notice how he places his ethnicity as "A" and the other at "B". Disgusting !

    • garetz on 07/07/2018 - 17:57

      This is the attitude that perpetuates racism in this country.

    • FowlParliament on 08/07/2018 - 15:59

      You're the one who should "get on with their life" rather than make unhelpful, dismissive posts.

    • Cusack on 08/07/2018 - 17:05

      ouch, you lost out on this one buddy.

  • Amaris on 06/07/2018 - 09:45
    +44

    Call/ visit Auspost and make a formal complaints
    https://auspost.com.au/about-us/corporate-information/compla…

    • trapper on 09/07/2018 - 15:41

      Absolutely this, make a formal complaint.

  • sw0rdy on 06/07/2018 - 09:49
    +3

    bikies

    • CyberMurning on 06/07/2018 - 11:31
      +20

      or gang from "ethnicity V"

      • Wiede on 06/07/2018 - 22:18
        +18

        Vikings???

    • Neptunesblood on 07/07/2018 - 13:55

      Urgh

      • ego22 on 07/07/2018 - 19:57

        Yep, those kinda vikings.

  • try2bhelpful on 06/07/2018 - 09:51
    +7

    You probably should've asked to talk to the manager at the time. Put in the complaint and they will tell him to pull in his head. I don't know what gets into some people; they are just dicks/dickettes.

    • dufflover on 07/07/2018 - 15:45
      +3

      The AusPosts I've been to over the years are all local family run; one of them probably is the manager.

    • try2bhelpful on 06/07/2018 - 10:05
      +45

      I'll give you a hint; if they are mentioning your race in a derogatory way it is abuse.

        • try2bhelpful on 06/07/2018 - 10:18
          +18

          At what point is "all you guys are like this and that" not abuse? "All you guys" is a pretty inclusive term.

        • c0balt on 06/07/2018 - 10:47

          @try2bhelpful:

          You are right. He wasn't inclusive of girls of that particular race - so perhaps he was talking about men and not including women, which in this day and age not being inclusive of including women is just as bad as saying an actual vulgar racist slur.

        • HighAndDry on 06/07/2018 - 12:08
          -6

          @try2bhelpful: "Abuse" has stronger connotations. The Auspost person didn't sound like they even swore. And you want to basically use the same term as you'd apply to domestic violence (which doesn't require physical violence) victims? Nah.

        • [Deactivated] on 07/07/2018 - 15:38

          @HighAndDry:

          Next you will have to ask for consent to talk to someone.

          Like you really need to get a clear YES before you have sex. Seriously if you and your partner have both taken your clothes off surely that is consenting if no force was applied.

          Welcome to Australia the country that will be telling us soon how we should wipe our arse in a PC way.

        • bobbified on 07/07/2018 - 15:48
          +1

          @HARSHREALITY:

          surely that is consenting if no force was applied.

          Someone's gotta do the pushing…. :p

        • Blitzfx on 07/07/2018 - 21:56
          +1

          @bobbified:

          somewhat related: https://imgur.com/a/9Rgm7#554YR

      • Baysew on 06/07/2018 - 10:58
        +9

        I'm not an ageist, but -

        did not shout back at this person of my Dad's age.
        nothing against that old person

        • c0balt on 06/07/2018 - 11:02
          +4

          Oh you eagle eyed son of a gun!

          Every old person is a little racist. With age and experience comes a lot of truisms about the world. Young people might have their tongues tied out of fear of rejection of their peers for saying what they notice about people of a certain race/colour/creed, but old people do not give a f***.

        • OzPunter on 06/07/2018 - 11:08
          +1

          Sorry to use the adjective 'old'.I have used it with no malicious intent but to show my respect for senior fellows.
          If having any kind of soft feelings for an elder person is also a form of discrimination, then I am sorry again.

        • c0balt on 06/07/2018 - 11:15
          +2

          @OzPunter:

          Well, there's that fear I was talking about.

          Maybe the other guy didn't mean it with any malicious intent either, but you just misconstrued it that way because people of 'the greatest generation' didn't have the same constraints on speech as we do, or get as easily offended at everything.

        • OzPunter on 06/07/2018 - 11:26
          +3

          @c0balt:

          If calling an entire race to be useless is ok for the people of 'the greatest generation', so be it.I have nothing to say but to kowtow to his grey hair wisdom and long lashing tongue.

        • c0balt on 06/07/2018 - 11:33
          -1

          @OzPunter:

          In all seriousness yeah he shouldn't have said that to you. It doesn't belong in the workplace and isn't professional, he should be reprimanded if you really didn't antagonise him. But you have a dad that age, so you should know how those people speak, especially if they are having a hard day at the post office.

          In your case you chose to be offended, yet also make remarks about someone's physical attributes they can't control. Then when pointed out you chose to be really fearful of what others would think about you, apologising and trying to give reasoning out of fear what others will think about you.

          I wanted to show how it's hypocrisy in it's purest form - unless somehow you believe colour of skin rather than the age of the skin is more important to persons identity and something they have more control over.

          Like most other humans, I'm biased towards people. Fatties being the ones I'm most biased against - luckily it's still acceptable to make fat jokes in public. Phew!

        • cameldownunder on 06/07/2018 - 11:54
          +2

          @c0balt: Rule 1 of old people: if it applies to 80% or more, it's OK to generalize.

        • HighAndDry on 06/07/2018 - 12:00

          @cameldownunder: Honestly everyone generalizes for far less. Somehow, because it hurts feelings, generalizing with respect to race, gender, etc are seen as worse. Problem is - human nature (and real life) doesn't care about feelings.

          If you have two bad experiences at two shops out of a chain of dozens, you'd probably generalize against that entire chain and not go back - and validly so. Just because it's now a person and not a shop treating you badly, doesn't change how, as people, we psychologically react to it.

        • HighAndDry on 06/07/2018 - 12:08
          -2

          Well it seems OP is ageist, since they're putting the person's age here when it's hardly relevant.

        • HighAndDry on 06/07/2018 - 12:09

          @cameldownunder:

          Rule 1 of old people: if it applies to 80% or more, it's OK to generalize.

          IRONY.

        • HighAndDry on 06/07/2018 - 12:09
          -1

          @OzPunter: Aren't you now generalizing against old people?

        • TheBilly on 06/07/2018 - 12:12
          +4

          @OzPunter:

          What if in his experience every person he has dealt with from said race continually makes that mistake? I know for one fact, in my industry 'construction' all plasterboard contractors I deal with are asian. If I then proceed to say, "All these gyprockers are just Asians" … In your eyes that could be abuse. In my eyes it's a statistical fact. Abuse is subjective.

        • OzPunter on 06/07/2018 - 12:38
          +3

          @HighAndDry: perfect my friend!! the other day my GP asked me " how are you young man??" let me sue him for being an ageist. sounds good??
          Fact is you are trying to downplay a racist rant by conducting autopsy on my post.
          Good on you fellas!!

        • OzPunter on 06/07/2018 - 12:40
          -6

          @TheBilly: If you present your statistics in a way that offends the other person then may be you should rethink.

        • HighAndDry on 06/07/2018 - 12:42
          +1

          @OzPunter: Hahaha no. If you're offended by statistics, you should rethink. Jesus, you're literally saying "Feels over reals". Rethink that.

        • HighAndDry on 06/07/2018 - 12:43
          -2

          @OzPunter: One is a greeting. Your post is clearly critical. Imagine someone posted here about a bad driver, and they mentioned - repeatedly - that the driver was Asian and female.

          We're not downplaying it. If anything, we're pointing out that you're ageist. I haven't defended the racist or the racism in any way. Why are you trying to excuse and downplay your own ageism?

        • OzPunter on 06/07/2018 - 13:41

          @HighAndDry: if you read my comment again you can see that I am not offended by the statastics but by the way you put them. Is there no difference in asking a person ' what is your dad's name?' Vs ' what is your mom's fornicator's name?'??

        • HighAndDry on 06/07/2018 - 13:43

          @OzPunter: So you're being offended by someone's tone? How's that any better?

          Is there no difference in asking a person ' what is your dad's name?' Vs ' what is your mom's fornicator's name?'??

          There is a difference, the second way is far funnier. And that's the point - no one controls whether you get offended other than you. Don't want to be offended? Just don't be offended. It sounds stupid when you force me to spell it out like this, but that's the truth.

          Take ownership of your feelings.

        • OzPunter on 06/07/2018 - 13:58
          +2

          @HighAndDry:

          Don't want to be offended? Just don't be offended.

          That is far easier said than done when you are at the receiving end. Not all can have the same sense of humour as you have. So you say anyone can say anything to anyone and we all should put hot wax down our ears and seal them up?

        • [Deactivated] on 06/07/2018 - 14:53
          +4

          @OzPunter: He is a troll. Dont feed the trolls.

        • HighAndDry on 06/07/2018 - 15:53
          -1

          @OzPunter: Didn't say it was easy. Life isn't easy. Guess what my advice is? If you guessed "Get over it", congrats you win the possibility of actually having a spine.

        • TheBilly on 06/07/2018 - 20:18

          @OzPunter:

          Well I just listed exactly how I would present it.

          "All these gyprockers are just Asians"

        • YetAnuddaShoah on 07/07/2018 - 08:32

          Every person of sound mind is at least a little bit racist these days. How could anyone look at what diversity has done to Europe (and gradually here too) and not want the absolute opposite of that catastrophe?

        • OzPunter on 07/07/2018 - 09:13

          @YetAnuddaShoah:
          Agreed. But funnily / unfortunately both parties in this episode are migrants.

        • YetAnuddaShoah on 09/07/2018 - 06:10

          @OzPunter: 'Migrants' in the euphemistic sense (ie. non-Europeans, especially Middle Eastern/African), or was one party White? How about you just tell us who was involved? It is highly relevant, as strongly as many would like to believe otherwise.

        • Autonomic on 09/07/2018 - 06:57

          @HighAndDry:sorry, being racist is never justified.

      • D6C1 on 06/07/2018 - 15:51

        Username checks out

  • Some Human on 06/07/2018 - 10:08
    +21

    I fear this is another one of those stories where we're only hearing a heavily edited version of what op actually said to them.

    • [Deactivated] on 06/07/2018 - 10:15

      Here's a dumpster. It's only got a little bit of refuse in it.

      Oh wait, an almost empty dumpster? Unheard off. Do I see a neighbour with a full general waste bin coming this way? And another?

      Oh now it's a nice big ol mix pile of anyone's guess rubbish.

      Would be a shame for someone to light some sort of combustible apparatus, say a match and non chalantly flick it in aforementioned dumpster.

    • try2bhelpful on 06/07/2018 - 10:28
      -1

      Pure speculation on your part; however, if you have footage of what occured I would love to see the streaming.

      • HighAndDry on 06/07/2018 - 12:10

        Does OP have any footage…?

  • Gronk on 06/07/2018 - 10:15
    +3

    Sounds like the old guy wasn't in the mood for whingers first thing in the morning.

    You should get on with day and not let Mr Angry Man occupy too much of your headspace.

  • John Kimble on 06/07/2018 - 10:15
    +3

    Does A represent Asian and B represent Black?

    • [Deactivated] on 06/07/2018 - 10:18
      +13

      Pretty obvious A is Anglo and B is Briton.

      • Speckled Jim on 06/07/2018 - 11:44
        +4

        A is Armenian
        B is Brazilian
        History 101 - the Armo-Brazi war?

        It's rumored the Kardashians were a product of an illicit affair during ceasefires.

        • HighAndDry on 06/07/2018 - 12:11

          No joke, a mixed Armenian-Brazilian person would be gorgeous.

  • hawkeye on 06/07/2018 - 10:18
    +3

    All you have to say is "The Postie carded me when I was at home" and take up from there.

    If your on a second floor or above they can refuse and if it was a small item via motor bike with signature needed they're not allowed to leave their bikes unattended so they'll card as well.

    • OzPunter on 06/07/2018 - 10:55

      Yes I do live in an apartment block. He could have told me that they cannot deliver because of some restrictions and I would be done. Instead,he chose to relive his diarrhoea from mouth.

        • OzPunter on 06/07/2018 - 12:45
          +3

          It was an item of worth $90, ordered to be delivered using express post by spending $10 for postage.

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