Australia Visa Sponsorship for Overseas

Anth0ny on 16/06/2018 - 17:16

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Recently my ex gf contacted me.
She said she needs my help.
She graduated from uni 1 year ago, and then now she study cert 4 for hospitality (i think she's finishing this year).
She's asking me to sponsor her.
She said she will pay me a lump sum of money. And that if we going to do this, it will be just under de facto relationship.
I already confront her that what she's planning is just not right and that going back to her home country is maybe not a bad choice as well.
I dont really need the money but I still want to help her.
She studied accounting back in University and she said that once she get me to sponsor her, she wants to open a business and run asian convenience store.
I dont know what to say/think/do.
Any 2cents from all of you expert will help.

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  • [Deactivated] on 16/06/2018 - 17:18

    You can't be a de dacto and sponsor. You'll have to register intention of marriage. That will be followed up on. They will keep tabs on you for several years after the marriage.

    You can't help everyone purely because you are not in the capacity.

    • jimbobaus on 17/06/2018 - 09:17

      This is not correct…
      Defacto Relationships are covered and you can sponsor even if you do not intend to marry.

      "Interdependent Visa" This visa is for couples who are not marrying, same sex (prior to law change this was only way for same sex relationships to bring a partner here"
      If the visa is granted she will have a temp visa granted for 12m, after that time immigration will check up to see that you are still together etc and if you are she will be granted Perm Residence.

      However you will need to provide evidence that in the 12 months prior to the visa application you were interdependent, Join Bank account statements, Photographs, invitations to events showing both your names, phone and text communication logs etc…. its quite in depth and not super easy.

      Chances are he will not be able to sponsor her anyways cause she is an Ex GF… and wont be able to meet the requirements but i am just pointing out those in defacto relationships can still go through an immigration process to bring a partner here/allow them to stay here.

  • mbck on 16/06/2018 - 17:42
    +2

    Talking of 2 different things sponsorship and de facto.

    You are taking on a lot tbh if you are going down the de facto route. If you get found, depending on your own visa status, you may regret helping her (fined or losing your own residency status).

    I don't think they will follow you for a few years after marriage. You'll have a high chance of them doing more investigative work and if there are any holes…

  • KingJuf on 16/06/2018 - 17:57
    +4

    I would not do it if I were you, plenty of ways immigration can find out that it is not a legitimate de facto relationship and will at least mark your name for being a sponsor to a fraudulent visa application. Not worth it. But plenty people do it just do extend there time in australia even if it doesnt get approved they can still get a review which pro-longs their deportation.

  • chumlee on 16/06/2018 - 18:11
    +19

    She doesn't need your help. She wants to take advantage of you. Big difference

  • Findo on 16/06/2018 - 18:12
    -1

    Lol she should just claim refugee status. Takes a while to clear the system and she’ll have Medicare and whatnot whilst on a bridging visa.

    Actually nah, we’re full.

  • wei13 on 16/06/2018 - 18:18
    +5

    I dont know what to say/think/do

    • Say "No"
    • Think 'thats a stupid idea'
    • Do - tell her to find a reputable migration agent to discuss legal ways of staying.
  • Sofie519 on 16/06/2018 - 18:31
    +15

    This is fraud. If she wishes to become a permanent resident, she should apply through immigration like so many others waiting in line. What makes her think she has a right to "cut the cue"? Immigration will assess and give the opportunity to the right people.

    Anyone that does NOT respect Australian Law in the first place will defy it again. Chances are she could end up on the social system, and you and I will be forced to pay for her living, including the living of all her family members she subsequently sponsors here, whilst she earns cash. If she has the funds and ability to open a convenience store in Australia, she can definitely live a comfortable life in her country.

    Unless you intend to marry her because you love and want to be with her for the rest of your life, please do the right thing and dont create this burden to society. Imagine if she hits you for your assets etc if marriage goes through! ..

    • Findo on 16/06/2018 - 18:42
      -4

      Australia is full!

      • reactor-au on 17/06/2018 - 15:13

        Maybe not full, but certainly the infrastructure and housing is already at capacity in main cities.

        • JIMB0 on 17/06/2018 - 16:27
          +1

          at capacity = full

    • owli on 16/06/2018 - 20:05
      +3

      Chances are she could end up on the social system, and you and I will be forced to pay for her living, including the living of all her family members she subsequently sponsors here, whilst she earns cash. If she has the funds and ability to open a convenience store in Australia, she can definitely live a comfortable life in her country.

      All I have is anecdotes, but this does happen. From what I have heard and seen you have wealthy foreign parents, their children claim benefits and work cash jobs. When they see how generous and incompetent our welfare state is they game the system hard.

  • dingdong3000 on 16/06/2018 - 18:46

    Don't do it is my advice.

  • Ocker on 16/06/2018 - 18:49
    +13

    What a multi talented girl - graduated Uni. in accountancy, now going for Cert 4 in hospitality and once she gets her wants to open an Asian convenience shop.
    But still she wants to defraud the Australian immigration system by bribing you to sponsor her (may be illegal me thinks) and set up a sham de-facto relationship
    Not the sort of person we want in Australia

  • owli on 16/06/2018 - 19:54

    Make sure you understand the risk/reward. How much is she offering you? I was offered 10k for it a couple of years ago, but some Indians were telling me that it is well below market value, IIRC they were saying 100k.

  • airzone on 16/06/2018 - 21:23
    +5

    If you do this and get found out, the following can happen:

    • Your ex will have her visa cancelled, and have a visit to the immigration detention centre while waiting to be deported
    • Your ex will be black-listed for life and will never be able to return
    • Your ex and yourself may be fined up to $300k
    • Your ex and yourself may be jailed
    • Hardlyworkin on 17/06/2018 - 09:47

      I second these comments. Is she worth going to jail for? There is usually a good reason people become exes. I had a friend offer to pay me 10k a few years back. Was tempting but said no. Now I sponsor my partner, that couldn't have happened if I was stupid before. Not only would you need to commit fraud but you would need to get friends to committ fraud and write statements for you. If you go down this path remember not to drop the soap.

  • owli on 16/06/2018 - 21:25

    I dont really need the money but I still want to help her.

    OP, how pretty is she?

    owli on 16/06/2018 - 21:25 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
  • wandererbubu on 16/06/2018 - 22:03
    +5

    Op, don't do this. You can only sponsor up to 2 partners in your entire life (must be 5 years apart from the first sponsorship). If in future, you meet your soulmate and want to sponsor her, it will be harder because you have sponsored 1 already.

    But if you really want to sponsor your ex, be careful of your assets, you ex can claim half or all of what you own if you declare that are in de fecto relationship with your ex (your house, super, saving, car, and if you die so your life insurance money etc.)

    If she offers you money, ask for 200k ;) - $100k when submitting application then $100k when she gets temporary visa. Please note that once she gets permanent residency visa, you cannot do anything if you change your mind or if she decides not to pay you the money.

    Anyway, it is not worth it, just tell her you don't feel ok doing this. There are other visas which will allow her to stay in Australia. Tell her to talk to immigration agents or find a real boyfriend.

    • jimbobaus on 17/06/2018 - 09:18

      This… so much this!!!

      • Anth0ny on 17/06/2018 - 14:57

        This is true. I know it because my ex gf friends did this 2 years ago. But they end up married together and have kids now. At that time, the rates was $150 plus a house in five docks

  • PissLUR on 16/06/2018 - 22:39
    -2

    50K is the current rate. Fyi.

  • Anth0ny on 16/06/2018 - 23:55
    +1

    yes. i think i will just tell her no.
    This is just too…
    Anyway, now i need to plan what im gonna say to her so that she wont feel hurt/mad.

    • wandererbubu on 17/06/2018 - 08:04

      Op, You don't have to be nice. She dares ask what she wants, you dare say what you feel. You should not make this your problem. It is your ex to sort out.

    • Slippery Fish on 17/06/2018 - 08:34

      Just tell her although you wish you could help her out your not comfortable with losing to immigration, suggest other ways, then once she's out your house lock the door…

      • Hardlyworkin on 17/06/2018 - 09:49
        +1

        We have immigration rules to keep out criminals, don't feel sorry for her!

      • Anth0ny on 17/06/2018 - 15:38

        We dont live together. We never did.
        Plus, i just bought a house so i just recently moved and she doesnt know my latest address.

        • Slippery Fish on 17/06/2018 - 19:58

          Ok tell her 200k before application lodged and 100k after. Then claim a mental break down and how can she report you scamming her when she is breaking the law. Easy 200k

        • HighAndDry on 18/06/2018 - 12:06

          Oh good - then after she legally breaks up with you again after the sponsorship ends, she can claim half your house too. AND your savings - including the amount she paid you. Good luck! /sarcasm. (Your plan to tell her no is a good plan.)

          Anyway, now i need to plan what im gonna say to her so that she wont feel hurt/mad.

          Not your problem. If she gets hurt or mad because you don't want to break the law, that's her problem.

  • onetwothreefour on 17/06/2018 - 08:16
    +1

    Is she hot? If yes then I'll considering being her sponsor.

  • tabitha731 on 17/06/2018 - 08:22

    She’s an ex so a valid reason!

  • JIMB0 on 17/06/2018 - 11:25
    +3

    I'd tell her to F off. You're getting used here.

  • HighAndDry on 18/06/2018 - 12:03

    "NO" is a simple one-word answer.

    Also practically, good luck trying to date anyone else for the next couple of years when you have to explain that you're legally sponsoring and de facto with an ex.

  • SnoozeAndLose on 18/06/2018 - 12:09

    Any update OP on what did you response?

    • Anth0ny on 24/06/2018 - 12:52

      I didnt reply. She keeps asking, but i just ignore her message

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