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Arlec White Double Powerpoint with USB Charger $12.45 @ Bunnings

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Credit to Price Hipster.

Handy to have in the house,

you need a licensed electrician to install these

This Alrec double powerpoint with Dual USB charger is able to charge tablet and smartphones simultaneously at their maximum capacity. It's suitable for all commercial and residential installations.

2 USB charging ports
240V, 10A power outlet
Complied to Australia electrical safety standard

Model Name Arlec Double Powerpoint with 3.4A USB Charger
Model Number 9302B
Material Polycarbonate
Colour White
you need a licensed electrician to install these
Product Dimensions (mm) W:110 H:60 L:70
Weight 0.24kg
Commercial Yes
Indoor Use Yes
Outdoor Use No
you need a licensed electrician to install these.
Maximum Amperage (amps) 10A
Maximum Voltage (volts) 240V
Surface Mount No
you need a licensed electrician to install these
Cover Plate Included Yes
Weather Resistant No
Child Safety Outlet No
Profile Type Standard
Product Material - ABS, S/S Polycarbonate
Architrave No
Pack Size 1
Number of Outlets 2
Extra Switch No
you need a licensed electrician to install these.
Removable Covers Yes
USB Charger (Yes or NA) Yes
Specialty Powerpoint USB charger

limited stock per store. In north Bris some of the stores with stock - North Lakes, Morayfield, Stafford, Cannonhill (maybe more, only checked a few locations)

Remember — you need a licensed electrician to install these. Turning off the mains power, removing the 2 holding screws on the existing power point, undoing the 3 screws hold the wires to the back of the socket. Then attaching those wires (as colour coded) you need a licensed electrician to install these to the new USB powerpoint and then attaching back to the wall with the 2 screws and then turning on the mains power, should only be done by a licensed electrician.

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  • +3

    Arlec from Bunnos is pretty ordinary nowadays.

    • +7

      Yep garbage, I haven’t seen this, but wouldn’t purchase it based on the quality of other arlec stuff I have bought from Bunnings.

  • -7

    Alright then

  • +2

    Will it draw power when no USB device is connected?

  • Loll

    Love the disclaimer at the end. Great work OP

  • -6

    I was told by a reputable retailer of electric parts, start s with M and ends with s, that to replace an 'existing' powerpoint you DO NOT need an electrician for.
    In case of an insurance claim due to this said powerpoint being the cause (LET'S AGREE THAT THAT IS WHAT THE CONCERN IS, APART FROM BEING AMORON AND NOT SWITCHING OFF THE MAINS), the insurance company can not refuse cover…admittely I have not read the law colfirming this, just what they told me when buying a 'very' expensive and fancy powerpoint for my new bathroom.

    • +11

      You are 100% going to be refused cover if the insurance company finds out and your work shares blame for the fire.

      You can either stuff it up completely and potentially cause damage straight away, or you can do it slightly dodgy and it might overheat and start a fire. Its a quite a low risk if everything is relatively new but fiddling around with aged and poorly put together wiring, and not understanding what wiring issues look like is a risk.

      If you have real Australian knowledge on how to replace it then you can make your own decision on if you can do it safely.

      But suggesting in an online forum that insurance can't refuse cover and suggesting that you don't need an electrician is idiotic.

      • +1

        Just wondering how this would play out in reality though?

        Say I live in a 50+ year old house where nothing electrical has been changed since I moved in.

        Say there's an electrical fire and it's traced back to a faulty socket or switch.

        What evidence am I going to be asked to produce to indicate that the component was installed by a qualified electrician? Am I not covered if I can't produce a 50+ year old receipt when electrical standards were vastly different to what they are today? If wear and tear and something merely being old and breaking disqualifies me from getting an insurance payout, what's the point in having insurance?

        The same thinking applies to other house services like plumbing. If a pipe breaks and floods my house, does my insurance not cover it if the reason why it breaks is due to age or corrosion?

        • I have no idea but there are people that look at it for a living, and people get caught, I just don't know how.

          I would imagine if they trace it back to the source (which they do) and a brand new outlet is to blame, they are going to ask you who installed it

          You can't say it was there 50 years ago obviously.

        • @samfisher5986: You say people get caught, but I'm struggling to find any news stories from Australia as examples. I'm possibly not Googling the right terms but I hardly get any results worldwide. I get results of prosecutions against people masquerading as qualified electricians in a professional capacity and lots of pages of electricians warning about the dangers but little in the way of actual evidence that it's a widespread problem.

          If it happened I'd expect regulators and electricians to be all over it and holding up examples as case studies of why not to DIY, but they're not.

          Instead you get stories like this idiot who caused a fire by working on cabling with the power turned on.

          Also check out our neighbours who are trusted to do a heck of a lot of things by their government.

        • A certificate of compliance.

        • @Bargin Boy: Which of course have asset numbers for all the legally installed sockets and switches that match the numbers on the physical infrastructure which an inspector can decode after fire has burnt it to a crisp?

          If you've got a 50 year old house, chances are you'll be rewiring the whole building if you invite an inspector in to do an ECOC (even if nothing's been touched since the day the place was built).

        • The opposite rationale is used. If a fire is traced back to a new outlet, then they could ask for the relevant "Certificate Of Electrical Safety" (Victoria).

        • +2

          @Zodiacmindwarp: Do you have links to some examples of this happening in Australia?

        • Uprvoted your comment btw, exactly! How would they know… given your exact scenario.

        • @Nomadesque: Thank you Nomadesque, I don't mind my comment (s), negged, but as you say, this member makes claims and does not back up… hasn't anyone ever replaced an end of an extension powercord etc.
          This items then should only be able to be sold to qualified electricians.

      • "But suggesting in an online forum that insurance can't refuse cover and suggesting that you don't need an electrician is idiotic."

        I disagree, taking 'advise' from an online forum and deciding based on that to DIY would be idiotic. I NEVER stated I did it myself, I only stated what I was told when buying the powerpoint.
        Not that I have to answer for myself in an online forum but… your comment below answers all about you, you admit you actually 'don't know'. Neither do I.

  • +27

    The 2 people that reported this deal are licensed electricians.

  • +1

    Honestly I know it's probably pretty simple but I'm not touching anything electrical.

    • +15

      How did you post that comment then?

      • +2

        Probably over a wireless connection :-)

    • +1

      Good idea. You never know who has touched the circuits before you, and if they have made mistakes. If the place burns down, insurance company will be asking for certificates for all electrical work carried out.

      • +15

        The certificates burned down too

        • The certificate is lodged with "The Office Of Chief Electrical Inspector" in Victoria

        • @Zodiacmindwarp: IF the electrician bothered to lodge it, many don't as it costs them $15 or more now. Incas told this the last time I got some electrical work done. Light points, external power outlets and external spotlights and sensors…and my 'fancy' new bathroom powerpoint ;).

    • +1

      proof?

  • I’ve put similar ones in all the bedrooms.

    They have a blue led light when something is plugged into the USB port which lights up the entire room.

    NOT handy when trying to sleep.

    I’m not sure whether these are similar.

    • Is that this one or the costco, the costco has a light in the usb plug

    • +4

      I have 2 of these arlec ones and there aren't any lights

    • I know people whose eyes open after they fall asleep, but I've never seen anyone that lays down to sleep without first closing their eyes. What with street lights, car headlights/tail lights, standby LEDs… When was the last time you slept? ;-D

  • -6

    They look hideous, they also emit an ugly blue light. They wlll not match any other PowerPoints & they will most likely cook your device and worst case burn down your house.
    Buy a quality one such as Clipsal or Legrand

    • +3

      Is this your personal or professional opinion?

      • -3

        Professional. And just like when scientists mention pesky realities like climate change 'downvotes' pile in because people don't like what they're hearing.

        • So you have fully researched sr8rippinpro 's credentials?

        • Ah, the greenhouse effect with its dispersing ozone layer that was going to kill us all from solar radiation by the 90s. No, I mean global warming - which didn't happen. No wait, I mean climate change (codeword for: the weather). Or whatever they're calling it this week because the last claim was proven false: the (current) fairy story for adults. ;-p

      • I've looked at several Arlec products in Bunnings recently… Many of them are poor quality. (Ill-fit, less-deep threads on light battens, thin and easily-breakable plastic, etc.) Maybe not all their stuff, but it definitely warrants a close inspection first.

    • +1

      Proof?

      Gee Clipsal are such quality they can't even get wiring colours right on power points…talk about not just a fire trap, but a health hazard

      What are the hazards?
      Electrocution

      https://www.productsafety.gov.au/recall/clipsal-australia-pt…

      Can't even earth properly on a meter box! Not dangerous at all.

      What are the hazards?
      A screw on the side of the meter isolator may be electrically live. There is a risk of electric shock if contact is made with this screw.

      https://www.productsafety.gov.au/recall/schneider-electric-a…

      Not once, but twice

      What are the hazards?
      This could result in a potential electric shock if a live wire were to come into contact with the enclosure.

      https://www.productsafety.gov.au/recall/schneider-electrical…

    • +2

      These items complies with Australian standards and safe to use.

    • +2

      My electrician just finished installing one of these.

      I wouldn't say they look hideous but they are certainly not as nice looking as the normal square points.

      There are no blue (or any other colour) LED's.

      • Agree - if they square I would have bought some.

      • Can you share the install price ?

        • +13

          $0, the guy looked remarkably like me.

        • @No: hahaha how crazy life is sometimes ya know? Was he a top bloke?

        • @No:

          LOL

  • Theres no light on these sockets at all

    • In the USB?

      • Just a socket on mine, only thing to point out is the back sticks out a lot so if the cavity in the wall isn't too deep for whatever reason can be fiddly for the 'licensed Electrician' to fit.

  • Haha awesome post mate! Hope you used a licensed electrician haha

  • Duplicated info so please delete my comment mod.

  • Does this have light in the USB like the costco one?

  • -6

    I’ll just leave this here.
    https://youtu.be/lnfeczpFYbA

    • +1

      So what is your issue with the product?

      • +1

        You get what you pay for. These are some of the poorest quality USB PowerPoint on the market. The only people buying Arlec products are DIY’ers.

        • +2

          You're paying for something that is certified to Australian standards. Whether people are installing themselves unlicensed has nothing to do with the product.

        • These are some of the poorest quality USB PowerPoint on the market.

          what is your source for this claim?

        • +4

          it’s just a tip. No Electricain is providing and installing arlec products. There is a reason they are stocked at Bunnings and not an electrical wholesaler.

        • @Della:

          Maybe not providing. My electrician is happy to install things I supply, as long as it meets Australian standards.

        • @Della: you've got a tip. oh well that is it. it is gospel, fact, reliable, printable in broad sheet, I'd swear to it in a an affidavit, etc

          I've got a tip for the 4th at Caulfield today. does not mean it is true.

        • that sounds right. Just not providing or recommending.

        • @altomic: well maybe some advice from experience then if you prefer.

        • @Della:

          Here is another tip for your collection. Gpo approval covers a design. Source the gpo from the same factory and brand it della. Sell them to bunnings for cheaper than their arlec cost and we’ll be purchasing della gpo before you know it.

        • +1

          @Della: like Repelec

          http://www.repelec.com.au/catalogsearch/advanced/result/?manufacturer[]=61

          Bunnings probably have a deal with Arlec. Other wholesalers prefer Clipsal, because they allow for a hefty markup. A lot of wholesalers sell HPM products, but over the years I've seen some shocking powerboards & plugs that were HPM.

          It's a bit like saying Dell must make crap products, because you can't buy them via a IT wholesaler.

        • Great point

    • you don't leave a cup of coffee near your PC why would you bring a cup of coffee to fix a power point, common sense.

    • LOL, the ominous voice at the end is quickly cancelled out by the high-pitched cheery rambling immediately after.

      That said, I would never install a power point with anything electronic included with it like a USB supply. Power points obviously last decades. But electronic equipment - particularly power supplies - seldom do.

      e.g. I had a ceiling fan controller fail months ago. Woke up and the fan was on!? Went to the controller - the switch was off! Then smoke began pouring out of the controller box. I turned the power off, opened it to disconnect the active so I could still have power to everything else. And of course - there it was - an electronic circuit board to change voltage level (electronic power supply).

      It was another confirmation to only plug such things in externally and disconnect its power when not being used. (Instead of fitting some kind of switchmode power supply inside a sealed wall that I can't see and don't know if it's 'hot' 24/7 before buying.)

  • +3

    I have heard insurance is wiped if these overheated and firestarted and you did the colour to colour connection yourself. You know, computers, the cloud, job rerecords, credit card records, insurance investigators, 2018, big brother……

    • +3

      Yes but your saving money by doing it yourself! Truly surprised that people ignore the severity of the consequences.

      I guess that's what keeps insurance companies quite happy, neighbor 2 doors down had his insurance rejected for a very similar thing. The poor guy then ended his life :(

      • Was it actually the cause of the fault - or just an unrelated issue they happened to discover while investigating, that they then used as an excuse to get out of paying?

        Can't stand insurance companies… So many stories of people paying them for years and then being cheated.

  • Year ago when I bought my Fibro home , I had a letter from electricity warning about messing with the panel is illegal ( I only replaced broken ceramic fuse box with circuit breaker for hot water , and stove ) , since then I do not touch it any more .

  • +4

    I don't really want any of these, but can't resist wanting to install one myself now.

    • why would you risk your insurance ect. seems counterproductive considering the associated risks?
      OZB is a strange place sometimes

    • Then offer to put some in Gerry Harvey's home.

  • Given the Comments of instructions on how to change the powerpoint, I wonder if you are now be legally bound if someone buys this reading the instructions and does their own power works

    • +1

      You need a licensed electrician to install these.

      • But the way the system is, wouldnt be surprised tho

    • +2

      I've seen this post on some sparky groups and suffice to say complaints will be lodged against ozb which I don't think is fair.

      End of the day the majority of us are adults and capable of making decisions to do things that could have consequences. That's life

      • Industry protection.

      • That's utterly ridiculous and childish brat behaviour.

        It has been said multiple times to use an electrician, and if anything they should be whining about the law so proof of qualification is required for purchase.

  • Does any one know if there is a stand-by rated usage on the USB? Aldi sold a similar double gang which had LED illumination with I think between 0.4-0.8w stand-by. (work well in the kitchen as a very low bench top night light!)

    • I would like a proper answer to this question too, the USB output is 5v so there must be a circuit to drop 240v to 5v. I think they must have a switching PSU built in to the power point and unless the switch also switch off the USB port next to it, it will waste electricity when it is not in use.

      • Which is why I said above I wouldn't purchase a power point with any kind of power supply/voltage conversion device fitted. Switchmode power supplies create heat and will fail decades before the power point itself. Use external supplies so you see smoke and fire it fails - not fitted inside a wall where you don't see or smell it until the building internal framework is alight. (Especially given the poor build quality I've seen of Arlec products.)

        • Good advice - Also be aware that the inbuilt psu can be quite bulky and might not fit easily - depends on local conditions. I wouldn't install one of these near any wooden framing.

  • -1

    Do you need a licensed electrician to install these?

    • Yes you do. All electrical power points need to be installed by a licensed electrician.

      That should have been for an obvious reason. You don't want to be electrocuted.

      • The real risk is electrocuting others. You know what you've done, but your wife/mother/sister/daughter doesn't. One day it doesn't work, they go poking around and ZAP! Charcoal chicken.
        Lot of twits will just stick wires anywhere until they get it working. Despite there only be 3 wires, it's still pretty easy to make mistakes. First time I saw a power cord I figured the bright yellow and green cable was obviously the active wire, the brown one was ground (brown like dirt), leaving the blue one to be the neutral. Glad I checked before cutting anything

        • Lol

        • ROFL, I was joking. Of course nobody is going to buy a $12 socket and then pay $150 to have an electrician come around and install it. The OP knows everybody buying this will DIY, hence his over the top disclaimers in bold type.

        • @dcash:

          Wouldn't be the worst idea. Electricians mark up the junk they sell, so getting this through them might cost $40-$50 each, making it a $30 saving per unit

          You wouldn't get just one done though, you'd ask him to a couple.
          Replacing 4 powerpoints at 20 minutes each should cost around $200-$250, even at the high side of things.

        • @dcash:

          Isn't it illegal to DIY (DIY meaning a non licensed electrician) electrical fittings installation. That by law requires installation by a licensed electrician.

        • @outlander: You'd have to be stupid to pay someone $200 for something you can do yourself for free, and in about 5 minutes.

        • +2

          … IF you have the knowledge. Most people that attempt such things do. The problem is the idiots that don't, and smartalecs that think they do but don't. e.g. Not tightening the screws so far that they cut through the copper.

          I'm confident and absolutely have the required knowledge to DIY. But without the license even I would pay someone. Who trusts insurance companies enough not to use it as an excuse if they discover it - even if it is completely unrelated to any fire? I sure wouldn't.

          But as above, I wouldn't fit - or pay someone to fit - ANY power point with some kind of internal power supply. (Look above for my other two comments for why.)

    • The fact you have to ask means you shouldnt be buying things like these

      • -2

        Wow, some OzBargainers really have no sense of humour.

        • Well, to be completely unbiased - some people don't read through the entire thread, to get the joke.

  • +2

    I got the last one off the shelf (actually the end pole) at Stafford. There was another box full just about to be restocked though.

    • Thanks - just about to head to Staffy Bunnings as much as I hate going there on weekends.

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